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Ferdinand Thieriot

Started by Alan Howe, Thursday 20 October 2011, 17:02

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Alan Howe

I imagine that these modern editions will form the basis for the forthcoming recordings on the Toccata label.

albion

Quote from: Alan Howe on Thursday 20 October 2011, 21:52I have duly sent an email to the library of Hamburg University...

Excellent - please let us know when the reply comes back - it's always good to establish what survives, just in case it is ever needed: a useful (though not comprehensive) source of information for collections within the UK is http://www.cecilia-uk.org/

:)

JimL

I seem to recall seeing, either here on this forum or on the old one, a copy of the first page of the A Major Violin Concerto (#1, Op. 68).

Gareth Vaughan

Most of Thieriot's extant MSS are in Hamburg. However, the man who knows the whereabouts of most of his music is Walter Zielke of Albis. I have the Full Score and parts of "Loch Lomond".

eschiss1

JimL- re first page of the opus 68 - maybe http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ferdinand_Heinrich_Thieriot there? (in the collection of images on the bottom right :) ) An also typeset (by the selfsame Professor-Emeritus Zielke) first page of the symphony in D major is there too (neat harmonic shift just in the first few bars...)

eschiss1

Hrm. Of the composers given further descriptions so far in the last day or so, this is the only one to have a concert-listing at that (incomplete, depending on contributions from the performers, etc.) site (which I mentioned but have no connection to. Just seems sort of neat. Can tell it's incomplete because of all the concerts where I live that are missing ;^) ) (Admittedly, I suppose not that many really "obscure" German Romantic composers are listed there? Eugen d'Albert (lesser-known, if of odd nationality :), to the general public)... hrm... others but not... well... hrm.) (Franz Possinger - more classical maybe...)

Alan Howe

They've been mentioned elsewhere, but several works by Thieriot have now appeared in print, courtesy of Walter Zielke:
https://www.lulu.com/shop/search.ep?keyWords=thieriot&type=&pn=2

Does anyone have a view on them...?

eschiss1

Well, he offers sound samples of 2 movements of the 5th symphony (synthesized) to help promote his edition. I've heard the sound samples (I think I may have linked to them in an earlier thread here) and am impressed...

eschiss1

Also, some of the D major symphony by Thieriot can be seen at (de) Wikipedia here (first page of the first movement in Zielke's typeset score. Mr. Zielke may have an mp3 - the "mp3" link from the Wikipedia page goes to a no longer existing website, alas.)

FBerwald

I just heard a few soundsamples of the recent Naxos release of the String trios - very beautiful. While looking for other music by this composer I came across this - Has anyone else heard this - It's a realization of the 1st movement of his Piano Concerto No. 1. Nothing earth shattering but very pleasant music.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VtSJTPPuKE0

Gareth Vaughan

Thieriot's music is always civilised and well-mannered, and his 1st Piano Concerto epitomises these qualities. It is a lovely work, the first movt. material being skilfully and engagingly worked out. I have been trying to persuade Hyperion to record both concertos (the 2nd is in C minor) - perhaps they will before long. There is also a concerto for 2 pianos & orchestra, but I have not seen the score and I don't know where it is. I believe Walter Zielke knows - but he is not telling (perhaps it is in his private collection).

pianoconcerto

Gareth,

Ivo Varbanov's website says he will record Thieriot's pc 1 & 2 for Hyperion in June 2020 with the BBC Scottish SO:

https://ivo-varbanov.com/calendar/future-events/

Gareth Vaughan

That is excellent news. It shows that Simon Perry listens to suggestions if people bother to make them and do some work for the company beforehand, like finding the score locations, etc.

Mark Thomas

What a bright note on which to start the day. Given the size of his output and the attractiveness of the few works which have already been recorded, Thieriot's comparative neglect by recording companies has always puzzled me.

Alan Howe

Wahay! Lovely jubbly! Now for some of the symphonies, or VCs, or anything else really...