Charles-Wilfride de Beriot 1833-1914

Started by giles.enders, Saturday 01 September 2012, 11:00

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jdperdrix

The score of the first two piano concerto (with orchestra or 2nd piano) appear in the catalogue of the Bibliothèque nationale de France:
http://catalogue.bnf.fr
The third also in the 2 pianos reduction. I didn't find the third..

eschiss1


FBerwald

The recording of Piano Cncerto No. 2 seems to have disappeared. Could someone re-upload it?

adriano

It's on YouTube, but with horrible acustics, do you really want this?

Gareth Vaughan

I think Mark's upload was in better sound IIRC. But if Mark could upload it again, I for one would be most grateful. The YouTube sound is pretty awful.

Gareth Vaughan

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The score of the first two piano concerto (with orchestra or 2nd piano) appear in the catalogue of the Bibliothèque nationale de France:
http://catalogue.bnf.fr
The third also in the 2 pianos reduction. I didn't find the third..

The catalogue information supplied is not detailed enough to determine whether the scores of PCs 1 & 2 are full score (perhaps with parts) or merely 2-piano reductions. Accordingly, I have fired off an enquiry to BNF. It is the 4th PC that they have in 2-piano reduction only (this is clearly specified in the catalogue data). I could not find any record of No. 3.

eschiss1

According to BNF there was a recording of the first piano concerto in 78-rpm days, with Peter Wallfisch (1924-93) piano? (http://catalogue.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/cb37913604v)

(From http://catalogue.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/cb37913601t Wallfisch & Cantrell may have recorded one of the other Bériot concertos too?)

Mark Thomas

I've been away for a few weeks, so my apologies for not doing this earlier, but I've restored my recording of de Bériot's 2nd Piano Concerto to the Downloads board here. The sound does leave something to be desired, I'm afraid.

adriano

Thanks, Mark :-)
The Bériot Piano Concerto is also mentioned in here. As sometimes in those days, orchestras were not named
http://oldmusicautographs.blogspot.ch/2012/01/charles-wilfrid-de-beriot-scion-of.html

Gareth Vaughan

The BNF has replied to the effect that they do not have full scores of any of de Beriot's PCs.  The Ricardo Vines Collection at the University of Colorado has the 2-piano scores of all 4 of de Beriot's concertos but no orchestral material. So we are still searching.

eschiss1

Hrm. By the way, apparently U. Colorado at Boulder, and a couple of other libraries, also do have the 2-piano reduction of the Op.46 2nd concerto, so it may be possible to borrow them without paying BNF. Still, at the moment I'm coming up nil on the orchestral material. The conductor or someone associated with the orchestra in the recording probably knew, but - probably deceased...

Gareth Vaughan

Quoteapparently U. Colorado at Boulder, and a couple of other libraries, also do have the 2-piano reduction of the Op.46 2nd concerto

I know that. I said above that U. of Colorado has 2-piano scores of ALL 4 of the concerti. It's the orchestral material that is missing - as is so often the case. In fact Boulder has two copies of No. 2, both of the 2-piano score. Peter Wallfisch, the pianist on the YouTube recording, was Raphael Wallfisch's father. I don't know Raphael personally. but Simon Callaghan does, so I have asked him to enquire if he (Raphael) has any clues.

eschiss1

Sorry :(
Are there any good Bériot biographies out there?

giles.enders

After several years, I wonder if anyone has managed to locate the full scores of piano concertos 1.3.&4. It would be very useful if they have.

Gareth Vaughan

I have had no luck to date, I'm afraid. You omit PC2 - does that mean the full score of that work has been located?