Unsung Austrian composers

[JimL]

Not sure re the symphonies. I recall a recording of a Requiem and a shorter choral work (and perhaps also a symphony no.4 in D minor with organ- maybe that was someone else entirely... - no, not Rangstrom!) by a friend of Schubert's, that was reviewed middling-well in Fanfare years back, but it seems not to have been Huttenbrenner- that, or it disappeared without a suspicion of a trace?

That Symphony No. 4 in D minor with organ rings a bell.  I believe it's by Johann Herbeck, the conductor of the Vienna Philharmonic Society who discovered Schubert's Unfinished Symphony.

[eschiss1]

I thought Huttenbrenner was the fellow who had the Unfinished in his collection - oh, they were both involved in its stories and travails. Yes, Herbeck rings a loud loud bell. Thanks! (And Sullivan with the only other symphony by Schubert to circulate in the 19th century to my knowledge, the late C major. From 2 to ... er... if we count no.7, should we count some of the other very nearly complete such works by Schubert (and others)... ... erm. (Actually, that's not an easy question anyway.)

[JimL]

I believe it was Schumann who discovered the Great C Major Symphony and arranged for its premiere, with Mendelssohn conducting.  Josef Hüttenbrenner alerted Herbeck to the existence of the Unfinished in Anselm's collection of MS bequeathed to him by Schubert.

[eschiss1]

hrm. "Sullivan and Grove rediscovered seven of Schubert's symphonies" - ?. Ok, that, if true... (though I expect 6: nos.1-6, not 1-7, are meant, as no.7 for ages referred to the C major, and I don't know who "rediscovered" the fragmentary E major (before Weingartner's orchestration - so sometime before that, perhaps...), but still...) I think the first six symphonies were published, perhaps first published, in the Schubert edition in the 1880s, and perhaps Sullivan and Grove did have something to do with that- will have to investigate... ?. but yes. a far ways off from Unsung composers, though there is a conceptual connection (how do we find these things and make them known and promote them) but that's a rather ... broad connection- if one worth discussing (more; we have of course!) very seriously in detail, hearing from people with experience and at length in an appropriate thread- and not just the promotion once we have the scores and parts part, either ... erm... anyways... I ramble. Again.

[FBerwald]

Not ramble.... No. I felt I was reading one of the more lucid CPO booklet excerpts! 

[JimL]

Schumann found the Schubert 7th/9th in, I believe 1839 or so.  It was first performed, albeit probably badly cut in, I believe 1844, but check me on that.