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Brzowski Dramatic Symphony

Started by JimL, Thursday 21 March 2013, 14:44

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Mark Thomas

I was away when we did spelling at school, Peter! I'm bored with the constant mention of of Rubinstein 4 and you've just made me mention it again. Yes, back to Brzowski...

petershott@btinternet.com

I confess, Peter, I haven't listened to it yet!

JimL

Well, guys, I got my answer back:

"Dear Sir,
The editors of Polish Music Edition (PWM), asked me to answer your questions about Józef Brzowski's Symphony. I'm a composer and musicologist, specializing in a field of symphony music of 19th century, and I'm researching Polish symphonies from that period. Brzowski's symphony was composed probably beetween 1840 and 1850. It's E major, though it begins in E minor. As most Brzowski's compositions it does not have opus number. In 3rd movement it's beginning tempo is not specified, but because it's a ,,Mazur" it must be performed in Allegro or Allegro vivace tempo. I noticed that on YouTube it's incorrectly given the name of ,,Mazurka", which is used for artistic stylisations for piano. ,,Mazur" is lively folk-dance from center Poland. ,,Krakowiak" which is middle section of this movement has tempo noted as Allegretto ma non troppo. If you are interested in Polish music from that period, than I will gladly answer your questions on that topic.
Yours sincerely,
Maciej Negrey"

Mark Thomas

What a helpful reply, thanks, Jim. I'm rather surprised that Mr Negrey puts the date of composition as being between 1840 and 1850. Not that I'm second-guessing him, but it does make the work much more advanced for its time and makes Brzowski's achievement all the more impressive.

Alan Howe

I second Mark's reaction concerning the date...

Gerhard Griesel

From my side, appreciation for the upload of this lovely work. A agree that Brzowski sounds very advanced for the period. Until recently I have not been able to download from UC due to bandwidth limitations, which I have now been able to rectify, and a whole new world has opened up. Amazon affiliates' shipping to Africa has apparently increased from $6.99 to $14.29, which has suddenly put Amazon out of reach, so UC has become a lifeline.

A Google search for an picture of Brzowski has not given any results - I suppose he was BP (before photographs)?

JimL

No.  There are photographs of Chopin.  They may not have had any cameras or photographers in Russian-occupied Poland, however.

eschiss1

With apologies for digression, see History of photography (according to Wikipedia); consider Daguerreotypes (some of the early photographs made in the late 1830s...) (also consider that portraits existed even before that, and people did sit for them.)

Amphissa


Also with apologies for digression. I did a quick Google search without luck. Could someone translate the abbreviated date of the performance?

09.11.2005

Is that September 11 or November 9?

Alan Howe

Sorry, Dave, I'm obviously being dense here - where did you get '09.11.2005' from?

eschiss1

could have been 23.01.2011 too? See here yes? (Maybe?...)

Alan Howe

...then 09.11.2005 would be 9th November 2005, no?

eschiss1

well- depends on where the 2005 date came from, but I'm guessing yes, for my own part.

markniew

here in Poland in the data notation we use the scheme: dd/mm/yy

Peter1953

I listened to this symphony a few more times. The opening bars of the 1st and 4th movement are somewhat 'dramatic', however, the music sounds more like a symphonic waltz to me. But what a wonderful symphony altogether. A constant flow of catching and memorable tunes. Utterly delightful. For me it's surely a trouvaille. This unknown work absolutely deserves a commercial CD.