Strauss Symphony in D minor

[Gareth Vaughan]

Sic transit gloria mundi!

[Alan Howe]

Will there come a time when even concert organisers and record labels get tired of programming Mahler? I mean, we're way past saturation point. Way past. We can only hope...

[Jonathan]

Well said Alan.

[Alan Howe]

Here is a picture of the German conductor, Johannes Winkler, dating from 1984:

http://www.deutschefotothek.de/documents/obj/70227791

A Wikipedia article in German...
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johannes_Winkler_(Dirigent)
...tells us that he died in June 1989 - and that, although an East German citizen, he made guest appearances in West Germany (the 'BRD').

Not proof that he's the conductor of the Cologne recording/broadcast - but I'm still inclined to dismiss the idea of a typing error.

[eschiss1]

Thanks! I'm quite sure in retrospect that the information I was using was much more incomplete than I was assuming

[Gareth Vaughan]

At the risk of muddying the waters on this thread, I have the Koch disk of Strauss' Symphony in d, which I have enjoyed very much for some years. However, strange to relate, I have never owned a recording of the F minor. Can anyone recommend one, please?

[Alan Howe]

Yes! Weigle on Oehms, c/w Don Juan, is excellent:
https://www.jpc.de/jpcng/classic/detail/-/art/don-juan-symphonie-f-moll-op-12/hnum/8325962

[Gareth Vaughan]

Thanks very much, Alan.

[adriano]

I have that DENON with the Symphony in F Minor, Gareth. As a coupling there is Strauss's Romanze for Violin and Orchestra. I like this work.

[Alan Howe]

This is the CD Adriano is referring to:



Unfortunately it's no longer generally available.

[adriano]

I must also have the Rickenbacher somewhere - in a special box of "pending" or "doubtful" items, which will take place back (or definitely not) in my shelves after this year's "cleaning out". Rickenbacher (he was a friend of mine, and a very nice person) takes rather slow tempi, generally.

[hyperdanny]

now that's interesting..I knew the F minor, but I wasn't "really" aware of the D minor... I guess I never cared about delving deeper because normally Strauss just repels me..well I went on YT and I like this one very much (I guess because it's uncharacteristic of his mature output?)........... so I used the link kindly provided by Alan and I bought it ..it was the only decently priced one on the whole internet! Thanks for the heads up!

[adriano]

Re-listened to the Rickenbacher CD yesterday. Both Symphonies are very well played - and the tempi are quite correct :-)

[Alan Howe]

The performance of the D minor Symphony on Colosseum with the Nuremberg SO under Klauspeter Seibel is still available:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00004TC7D/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
To my ears the glassy-sounding download is noticeably inferior to the CD.

Further information on the conductor here:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Klauspeter_Seibel
https://www.nola.com/arts/2011/01/grace_note_klauspeter_seibels.html

[Gareth Vaughan]

What a very unfortunate cover design!