Riotous Piano Concerti. One "vote" each!

[Gerhard Griesel]

Busoni!

[thalbergmad]

I want to change me vote to the Boise PC in G.

Had a bout of man flu so spent a few hours on it. Can't get anywhere near this. Octaves, thirds, Sixths etc, along the lines of Dreyschock perhaps.

Yours achingly.

Thal

[Gareth Vaughan]

Yes, the Boise concerto is quite a handful. I hope Hyperion record it sometime.

[FBerwald]

Well - NOT quite Riotous but........ Julius Röntgen's Piano Concerto in D major Op. 18 slowly creeps up on you ...concluding in a beautiful Rondo Finale that's riotous.
I'm surprised this concerto hasn't been mentioned before in any discussion. 

[eschiss1]

Well - NOT quite Riotous but........ Julius Röntgen's Piano Concerto in D major Op. 18 slowly creeps up on you ...concluding in a beautiful Rondo Finale that's riotous.
I'm surprised this concerto hasn't been mentioned before in any discussion.

It's come up in at least one or two discussions about Röntgen at least...

here: http://www.unsungcomposers.com/forum/index.php/topic,767.msg10117.html#msg10117, http://www.unsungcomposers.com/forum/index.php/topic,24.msg684.html#msg684, http://www.unsungcomposers.com/forum/index.php/topic,755.msg9866.html#msg9866 , and elsewhere...

[FBerwald]

Well - NOT quite Riotous but........ Julius Röntgen's Piano Concerto in D major Op. 18 slowly creeps up on you ...concluding in a beautiful Rondo Finale that's riotous.
I'm surprised this concerto hasn't been mentioned before in any discussion.

It's come up in at least one or two discussions about Röntgen at least...

here: http://www.unsungcomposers.com/forum/index.php/topic,767.msg10117.html#msg10117, http://www.unsungcomposers.com/forum/index.php/topic,24.msg684.html#msg684, http://www.unsungcomposers.com/forum/index.php/topic,755.msg9866.html#msg9866 , and elsewhere...

EESH!!!!!!!!!!! LAid an egg there DIDN'T I!!!!!!!!!

Sorry.  But the work is new to me and am a bit excited about (and by) it!!!!               
It's quite beautiful nevertheless. Hyperion could have had a winner with that one ,........ but I hear he wrote about 7 piano concertos so maybe there's still some hope!!!!!!

[Alan Howe]

Röntgen's PC2 is the opposite of riotous. Listen to the calm breadth of the opening movement and the lyricism of the slow movement: even the finale is measured and poised. No, this PC definitely belongs in the "non-riotous PCs" category!

[eschiss1]

I think cpo plans to record all? the 7 (1873-1930) Röntgen piano concertos (even maybe all the violin concertos also? don't know. will they be producing a new recording of the cello concertos? also don't know) anycase...

[FBerwald]

I think cpo plans to record all? the 7 (1873-1930) Röntgen piano concertos (even maybe all the violinc oncertos also? don't know. will they be producing a new recording of the cello concertos? also don't know) anycase...

Just out of curiosity how many concertos did he write (and for which instrument(s) ). I know there is some confusion about his work list ..... many still in manuscript form.

I do believe all(?) thr 3 cello concertos have been recorded (and quite nicely too!!!!!) by Arturo Muruzabal on Etcetera

The Violin Concerto in A minor(1902) has been done by Ragin Wenk-Wolff on Centaur. 

[eschiss1]

Just out of curiosity how many concertos did he write (and for which instrument(s) ). I know there is some confusion about his work list ..... many still in manuscript form.

The Violin Concerto in A minor(1902) has been done by Ragin Wenk-Wolff on Centaur.

Donemus used to host a PDF that purported to be a fairly complete list of his works. They've taken it down, but I still have a copy. I doubt I can legally distribute it, but from it I get 7 piano concertos, 3 cello concertos and two other cello and orchestra works, 5 violin concertos (possibly only 3 surviving?) plus a suite and a ballade for violin and orchestra; then several multiple strings and orchestra concertos:
the triple concerto for string trio and string orchestra from 1922 (also mentioned on Wikipedia), a 1927 double concerto for violin, cello and orchestra, a 1930 string quartet and orchestra concerto and an Introduction, Fugue, Intermezzo and Finale for string quartet and orchestra. Quite right about the cello concertos being recorded on Etcetera. Donemus lists the violin concerto in A minor as no.3 (a concerto no.1, no key given, from 1875- 'B' is the symbol next to it in the PDF- missing??; a concerto no.2, no key given, from 1879- also 'B'; concerto in A minor; concerto in D major (no.4 from 1925-6); concerto in F sharp minor (no.5 from 1931, to Jelly d'Aranyi.)

Eric

[eschiss1]

so as not to fill up that multi-edited entry btw-yes, apparently, 'B' means missing, or rather, B for '-B-rieven von Julius Röntgen', the source of their being two concertos for violin that don't seem to exist in score or parts. So, yes, missing.

[giles.enders]

My nomination is Peter Benoit's of 1865.  It is quite over the top and vulgar and great fun.

[eschiss1]

My nomination is Peter Benoit's of 1865.  It is quite over the top and vulgar and great fun.

though strictly called a symphonic poem and not a concerto, I think?

[albion]

It simply has to be British - Sir Alexander Mackenzie's superb Scottish Concerto (1897) with it's riproaring finale

http://www.hyperion-records.co.uk/al.asp?al=CDA67023

[Francis Pott]

I know this thread has gone qujiet but I've only just joined!

Amphissa suggested Paderewski - lovely piece but beware if you're listening to Earl Wild, as a lot of the embroidery is his own.

I completely agree with those who suggested Scharwenka 4 - on account of the last movement. Could I put in a word for the crazy Peter Mennin Concerto (1957) as well - the last movt as played by John Ogdon (probably sight reading, or close) is enjoyably bananas.