Wilhelm Maria Puchtler

[Sharkkb8]

Relating to the cd in the first post of this thread  -  I also just obtained this cd, from one of the larger international distributors that we all know, and what I received was an unsealed cd.  Upon inquiring, I was told that "To protect the environment, many manufacturers don't seal their products anymore......___________ is conservation-minded and delivers items also unsealed."  Having bought cd's since their invention, and having a fairly sizable collection (92,000 tracks), if this practice was as common as is suggested above, I would have thought I would have had such an experience before now.  Sorry to be off-topic and will happily start a new thread if there's that much response (I wouldn't think an entire thread would be justified), but just curious - do other members of this forum routinely receive "new" cd's that are not shrink-wrapped?

[adriano]

We were discussing about this composer in a more recent thread. Alan, will you perhaps able to merge them? In the meantime I could receive a scan of the MS of Puchtler's magnificent "Quartett-Notturno".

[Alan Howe]

Your wish is my command!

[adriano]

Thanks very much, dear Friend 

[Santo Neuenwelt]

As some of you may recall, I started this thread some three years ago in hopes of finding the sheet music to the Notturno so that we could make the parts available to chamber music players. Our copy of the CD came directly from Musica Bavarica and it was sealed in plastic shrink wrapp. Robert Munster and Alois Kirchberger are listed as the owners.

Anyway, we are still very interested in obtaining a copy or good scan of the Notturno with a view to publishing i.e reprinting it assuming it was published. If it is only in manuscript, we could arrange to have it notated. To say the least, we would be extremely grateful if whomever has access to a copy or scan would be so kind as to email it to us at editionsilvertrust@gmail.com

[tpaloj]

The Notturno isn't published. For the record there's an entry for Puchtler's estate of materials, undigitized and unfortunately there doesn't seem any further list of contents online. With luck the Notturno is among these: http://kalliope-verbund.info/de/ead?ead.id=DE-611-BF-10028

[adriano]

I was just answering, then a new posting came in - and my message disappeard. I wrote that I contacted the pianist of the recording, but she never answered. I actually intended doing an edition (with Sibelius music software), but I still don't know if somebody had done this already for the CD's musicians - which I suppose, since it's not easy just playing from the MS. At he Bayerische Staatsbibliothek they do not have such an edition, they only have the MS - and the people from Musica Bavarica did not help either.
The MS number of the Notturno is:
Mbs Mus.ms 5277 (Score, 28 pages)
Mbs Mus.ms 9639 (Parts)
The MS is in very good condition; you can order scans against payment. The scans I have received are excellent (I only have bought the score)

[adriano]

In the meantime I've edited a new score with notation software of Puchtler's "Notturno", based on the MS from the Bayerische Staatsbibliothek in Munich. Parts will also be available. I am in touch with a publisher.
Somebody has reproduced Puchtler's original MS in IMSLP.
The musicians involved in that older "Musica Bavarica" CD were either departed or are now very old. They may have written out their own parts manually for their 1986 performance and recording. However, "original" violin and cello parts could also be found.
Munich musicologist Robert Münster, a Puchtler expert, died (aged 93) just a few weeks before I could send him my score.
I mentioned his interesting study on Puchtler and his complete work catalogue earlier in this thread. From this study one can learn that this "Notturno" had never been published.
Mr. Münster was also one of the initiators of the "Musica Bavarica" label.

[Santo Neuenwelt]

Edition Silvertrust has published the parts and score to the Notturno which will be made available at the end of August 2021 on their website.

The parts and new score are based on the manuscript found in the Nachlass of Puchtler's in the Musikabteilung der Bayrischen Staatsbibliothek. Peter Klossbruhe, one of our editors who lives outside of Munich was able to contact cellist Friedrich Kleinknecht before he died and pianist Sylvia Hewig-Troscher who kindly examined preliminary drafts of the work. The final edition of the parts was edited by R.H.R. Silvertrust.

[adriano]

In other words, my work was done for the cat... Since I've already contacted an editor myself, who now is no more interested.
it would not surprise me if the person, who has done - or recommended - this new editing, has got the idea from me; I talk about this project since some time in here. It's not the first time this happens. My mistake is that I often speak too enthusiastically about my projects; so once more I've learnt a lesson.

Incidentally, my own work is also based on the manuscript of Puchtler's Nachlass. By the way, this MS was uploaded some time ago to IMSLP (not by me, I honestly ordered and paid Library scans and would have never dared to upload them without permission).

Anyone, who may be interested in seeing my (still unlectored) "study score" version of Puchtler's "Notturno", can contact me and ask for a free download. In case of a confirmed public performance, one can hire the parts free or charge. But I correspond only with real people. Enough of having to deal with avatars. In my opinion, everyone writing in here should stand up for its opinion and not hide himself fearing to compromise because of his ideas. This is neither a mystery thriller nor a hide-and-seek show, but a professional "network" of (hopefully honest) music lovers and specialists, so what's so "delicate" about revealing his name?