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The Music => Recordings & Broadcasts => Topic started by: JeremyMHolmes on Monday 09 May 2011, 20:22

Title: Marcel Tyberg Second Symphony
Post by: JeremyMHolmes on Monday 09 May 2011, 20:22
This has just been recorded for Naxos by JoAnn Falletta and the Buffalo PO, to be couple with a piano sonata also by Tyberg - see the 'latest news' part of the Naxos web site.
Title: Re: Marcel Tyberg Second Symphony
Post by: Alan Howe on Monday 09 May 2011, 22:06
Thanks for this very welcome news. Here's the link...
http://www.naxos.com/news/default.asp?op=896&displayMenu=Naxos_News&type=2 (http://www.naxos.com/news/default.asp?op=896&displayMenu=Naxos_News&type=2)
Title: Re: Marcel Tyberg Second Symphony
Post by: Alan Howe on Thursday 27 June 2013, 21:03
It's to be released on 29th July:
http://www.mdt.co.uk/tyberg-marcel-symphony-no-2-joann-falletta-naxos.html (http://www.mdt.co.uk/tyberg-marcel-symphony-no-2-joann-falletta-naxos.html)
Title: Re: Marcel Tyberg Second Symphony
Post by: eschiss1 on Sunday 30 June 2013, 17:40
As to Tyberg- ah. Trying to remember where I heard of him- not where I thought. Ah.  I think I may have heard his 3rd symphony, or may have part of that recording to hear. Yes, I think I should like to hear the 2nd and will try to catch it. Thanks again.
Title: Re: Marcel Tyberg Second Symphony
Post by: DennisS on Tuesday 02 July 2013, 18:39
It's good to note that Naxos are finally releasing Tyberg's Second Symphony. I have been waiting since May 2011 for its release! I very much enjoy Tyberg's Third Symphony and am very hopeful that the second symphony will be just as good if not better! Thank you Alan for alerting me of its release.
Title: Re: Marcel Tyberg Second Symphony
Post by: Alan Howe on Saturday 13 July 2013, 08:57
Here are some audio excerpts:
http://www.jpc.de/jpcng/classic/detail/-/art/Marcel-Tyberg-1893-1944-Symphonie-Nr-2/hnum/2542862 (http://www.jpc.de/jpcng/classic/detail/-/art/Marcel-Tyberg-1893-1944-Symphonie-Nr-2/hnum/2542862)
Sounds great!
Title: Re: Marcel Tyberg Second Symphony
Post by: BFerrell on Saturday 13 July 2013, 11:51
Wonderful composer! So much beauty.
Title: Re: Marcel Tyberg Second Symphony
Post by: Mark Thomas on Saturday 13 July 2013, 12:26
Those sound bites are mouth watering. This should be a real disc of discovery.
Title: Re: Marcel Tyberg Second Symphony
Post by: DennisS on Saturday 13 July 2013, 13:01
I've just listened to the sound bites too and can't wait for the CD to be released! I already have the CD on order!
Title: Re: Marcel Tyberg Second Symphony
Post by: Gareth Vaughan on Saturday 13 July 2013, 13:06
I couldn't agree more. Absolutely delicious. This is a must buy CD for me. Incidentally, the scherzo is very reminiscent of Bruckner, don't you think?
Title: Re: Marcel Tyberg Second Symphony
Post by: petershott@btinternet.com on Wednesday 24 July 2013, 11:11
I received my copy this morning. I'll save Symphony 2 for a later occasion - I'm sure I'll enjoy it, but it was the 2nd Piano Sonata in which I was most interested.

I sat down and had a careful listen post breakfast. A very substantial work, and of 32 minutes duration in this performance by Fabio Bidini (a name new to me). First impression is of what seems a superb work: surprisingly traditional in form and language (given its 1934 date of composition when much contemporary music was going down an 'innovative' dead alley and becoming less satisfying), and yet not at all derivative or simply copying what went before. There is a lot going on in the work - not an 'easy listen' (thank heavens!) and I'm much looking forward to listening to it again now I've got an idea of its general 'landscape'.

According to the Naxos booklet Tyberg wrote two sonatas. The first comes from 1920, and I'm assuming the score survives? I wonder if Naxos will give us the work? And three cheers for Naxos!
Title: Re: Marcel Tyberg Second Symphony
Post by: Alan Howe on Monday 29 July 2013, 12:38
As Gareth intimates above, Tyberg's 2nd Symphony will certainly delight Bruckner fans - and those more allergic to the earlier composer will be relieved to hear that the piece comes in at a mere 42 minutes! Overall, anyone who enjoys, say, Wetz or Schmidt, will love Tyberg 2 with its long-breathed melodies, rich orchestration and glorious use of the brass. The Buffalo PO under JoAnn Falletta do a fantastic job too, thoroughly justifying their resurrection of this gifted and badly neglected composer's music. Overall, a winner! 
Title: Re: Marcel Tyberg Second Symphony
Post by: BFerrell on Monday 29 July 2013, 17:53
Naxos has already recorded the First Sonata and the Sextet.  I think Falletta will also do the First Symphony. Funding has been arranged for Naxos to record all surviving Tyberg scores. The First Sonata is every bit the equal to the Second.
Title: Re: Marcel Tyberg Second Symphony
Post by: Alan Howe on Monday 29 July 2013, 17:54
Good news, thanks!
Title: Re: Marcel Tyberg Second Symphony
Post by: Jonathan on Friday 09 August 2013, 19:16
I've just ordered the disc with the 2nd Sonata and am looking forward to hearing it, especially after all the good things said here!
Title: Re: Marcel Tyberg Second Symphony
Post by: BFerrell on Friday 09 August 2013, 20:59
Ms. Falletta tellsme that she is negotiating now with Naxos for recording No. 1.
I get the feeling that Naxos is really starting to tighten their belts. Bad news?
Title: Re: Marcel Tyberg Second Symphony
Post by: Mark Thomas on Saturday 10 August 2013, 05:22
I understand that even they are now being hit by the drop in sales of physical CDs. It's not good news.
Title: Re: Marcel Tyberg Second Symphony
Post by: giles.enders on Saturday 10 August 2013, 10:21
The alleged drop in sales doesn't surprise me.  There was a time when I could be induced to purchase at least one or two Naxos CD's a month just out of curiosity but during the last three or so years there has been very little to whet my appetite
Title: Re: Marcel Tyberg Second Symphony
Post by: Mark Thomas on Sunday 11 August 2013, 19:08
I don't think it's repertoire, Giles. It's the general shift in buying patterns from CDs to digital downloads. The "classical" market has lagged behind other sectors until now, but the download phenomenon has begun to affect it too.
Title: Re: Marcel Tyberg Second Symphony
Post by: Jonathan on Friday 16 August 2013, 19:14
Well the disc arrived and I am thoroughly enjoying the symphony - Alan was quite right about the Bruckner connection, especially in the first movement!  The second seems to me to be more like Brahms.  Scherzo next...
Title: Re: Marcel Tyberg Second Symphony
Post by: sdtom on Saturday 17 August 2013, 03:24
I too have ordered it and look forward to hearing it also.
Tom
Title: Re: Marcel Tyberg Second Symphony
Post by: Mark Thomas on Saturday 17 August 2013, 17:13
What a fine, satisfying work this is. The influence of Bruckner is plain for all to hear throughout the piece and, despite being the opposite of an avowed Brucknerian, I think it's a wholly positive one as it is mainly apparent in the orchestration and in his harmonic language. I was also reminded of Franz Schmidt, particularly so for some reason in the finale - a grand, serious Prelude followed by a joyous Fugue. At 42 minutes duration, it is a generously proportioned but not over-long work, with the four movements of roughly equal length and none of them outstaying their welcome by even a second. Melodically it is a rich feast, particularly the first three movements. Although Tyberg uses his themes sparingly, they are well chosen, effective and memorable. The Symphony was written in 1927, but wouldn't have raised too many eyebrows thirty years earlier. All in all, I'm hard pressed to think of a major work in recent years which has both impressed me so much at first hearing, but which clearly has a great deal more to reveal at further listening.

I do hope that the Piano Sonata is as rewarding.
Title: Re: Marcel Tyberg Second Symphony
Post by: Jonathan on Saturday 17 August 2013, 18:57
Hi Mark,
It is!  The first movement has a theme which has been stuck in my head all day.  Happy listening...
Title: Re: Marcel Tyberg Second Symphony
Post by: Peter1953 on Saturday 17 August 2013, 20:02
What a wonderful music! One of my most exciting discoveries of the year so far, thanks to our forum. Both his 2nd Symphony and his 2nd Piano Sonata are amazingly good. The development of the thematic material of the symphony reminds me more of Bruckner than Mahler, but as Mark said, also of Franz Schmidt. What a tuneful and powerful melodies, and how subtle the slow movements are. Yes, a trouvaille... Very impressive indeed.
BTW, are you in for a gorgeous, purely romantic Piano Trio? Try Tyberg.
Title: Re: Marcel Tyberg Second Symphony
Post by: DennisS on Sunday 18 August 2013, 12:25
I listened again this morning to the symphony and am even more impressed. As a number of members have commented, the influence of Bruckner is very obvious, especially for me in the first movement and also at the end of the fourth movement. The symphony ends joyously as has also been noted. The melodies are lovely and the orchestration is masterly. A superb symphony!
Title: Re: Marcel Tyberg Second Symphony
Post by: sdtom on Sunday 18 August 2013, 17:34
Quote from: Mark Thomas on Saturday 10 August 2013, 05:22
I understand that even they are now being hit by the drop in sales of physical CDs. It's not good news.

They seem to have both digital and CD's covered for now. My daughter who is 32 doesn't own a CD.
Tom
Title: Re: Marcel Tyberg Second Symphony
Post by: sdtom on Friday 23 August 2013, 15:31
I finally got my copy of the Tyberg and am beginning to do a review of it. Are we sure this isn't an undiscovered Bruckner work ?  ;D

Tom
Title: Re: Marcel Tyberg Second Symphony
Post by: sdtom on Saturday 24 August 2013, 16:39
Quote from: Tapiola on Monday 29 July 2013, 17:53
Naxos has already recorded the First Sonata and the Sextet.  I think Falletta will also do the First Symphony. Funding has been arranged for Naxos to record all surviving Tyberg scores. The First Sonata is every bit the equal to the Second.

I agree with you on the BPO/Falletta recording the first symphony, but I'd guess it will be a year off.
Tom
Title: Re: Marcel Tyberg Second Symphony
Post by: sdtom on Saturday 24 August 2013, 17:27
http://sdtom.wordpress.com/2013/08/24/symphony-no-2tyberg/ (http://sdtom.wordpress.com/2013/08/24/symphony-no-2tyberg/)

The completion of my review and in conclusion I can say that it is highly recommended.
Tom

Title: Re: Marcel Tyberg Second Symphony
Post by: BFerrell on Saturday 24 August 2013, 19:10
Ms. Falletta's schedule is booked through May 2014. I have been talking to her about championing Harold Shapero which she is ready to do. But, she is a very busy lady! Late next year is my guess on the Tyberg 1st. She wants to schedule it with the Buffalo Phil first.
Title: Re: Marcel Tyberg Second Symphony
Post by: JimL on Saturday 24 August 2013, 19:30
Quote from: sdtom on Saturday 24 August 2013, 17:27
http://sdtom.wordpress.com/2013/08/24/symphony-no-2tyberg/ (http://sdtom.wordpress.com/2013/08/24/symphony-no-2tyberg/)

The completion of my review and in conclusion I can say that it is highly recommended.
Tom
What's a Steinberg?
Title: Re: Marcel Tyberg Second Symphony
Post by: Alan Howe on Saturday 24 August 2013, 20:33
Quote from: JimL on Saturday 24 August 2013, 19:30
What's a Steinberg?

A piano?>>>
http://www.wilh-steinberg.com/eng/index_eng.html (http://www.wilh-steinberg.com/eng/index_eng.html)
...although I suspect a Steinway was meant as the pianist is an official Steinway artist. But I suspect you knew that, Jim...
Title: Re: Marcel Tyberg Second Symphony
Post by: JimL on Sunday 25 August 2013, 03:10
It was a purely rhetorical question.  ;D

Actually, I was totally unaware that there were Steinberg pianos, so I did learn something new.
Title: Re: Marcel Tyberg Second Symphony
Post by: sdtom on Sunday 25 August 2013, 15:51
correction duly noted. Obviously I wasn't thinking.
Tom :)
Title: Re: Marcel Tyberg Second Symphony
Post by: sdtom on Sunday 25 August 2013, 16:05
I'm glad a little fun can be had. I feel a lot more comfortable on this site now.
Tom
Title: Re: Marcel Tyberg Second Symphony
Post by: Alan Howe on Sunday 25 August 2013, 19:58
And we're glad to have you here, Tom.
Title: Re: Marcel Tyberg Second Symphony
Post by: sdtom on Monday 26 August 2013, 00:43
 ;D