this should probably go in the main Downloads folder/forum, not this one, in my opinion...
[I moved it to the Downloads Board - Mark]
I uploaded by my mistake!
Thanks.
A.S
Dear Arbuckle
Thank you very much that you uploaded M.Rubin's compositions :D.
I looked for Rubin's symphony long time, but it is difficult to get these LP.
Regards.
A.S
Mostly knew of Rubin because his symphonic scores are right snugly next to Rubbra's at some libraries I visit, and this made me curious. Thanks, looking forward to listening! (Sorry to sound so flippant!)
I apologize for the Marcel Rubin Sym 8 being so bad, I redid it and replaced it. If others are bad, let me know.
Added Marcel Rubin, Sym No. 1 in B to the Rubin file
Das Niederosterreicheische Tonkunstlerorchester, Karl Osterreicher
Not sure of LP info.
some Worldcat.org searching about Marcel Rubin reveals a few things of possible interest.
There's a 1975 book "Marcel Rubin: eine studie" by Hartmut Krones. (Perhaps a worklist? Perhaps even a list of broadcast and commercial recordings by 1975? Haven't seen it.) Also I see listed somewhere a 1995 CD with his 10th symphony, probably no longer available?? (on Ges. zur Förderung Österr. Musik) and other works also (piano sonata 1, Bach-Choral-variations, etc.) Also the 3rd symphony on a 1960s LP conducted by I think Maerzendorfer, the 8th symphony (Otvos' recording apparently) on a 1980s Preiser LP, the 5th symphony on a 1960s Amadeo LP, the 4th symphony (Rapf conducting it seems? 1980s Preiser LP) , Pastorale for strings (Preiser LP, Jan Stych conducting), symphony 1 just mentioned (Preiser LP SPR 130, Zeitgenössische österreichische Musik, 14, 1970s); other recordings also listed on other mostly LPs (a few CDs too I think.)
Has anyone come across or recorded anything by Johann Nepomuk David(1895-1977)?
David wrote eight symphonies, three violin concertos and a whole slew of other concertos quite apart from his music for organ.
He is a composer who has always intrigued me :) I do have a taped version of his Oratorio "Ezzolied" which I hope to be able to digitise in due course :)
Website about David-
http://www.johann-nepomuk-david.org/index_e.html (http://www.johann-nepomuk-david.org/index_e.html)
The first two violin concertos are recorded commercially, so you can watch out for these records.
Best,
Tobias
Apparently there was a Double LP set coupling Johann Nepomuk David's symphony No.5(1951), Organ Concerto and 'Ezzolied' with Erich Schmid conducting the Sudwestfunks Symphony Orchestra, Baden-Baden: Audite FSM 53 416-17)c. 1980).
....However.. a Google search has revealed the following:
"Esther Schollum Artists' News
Johannes Wildner to continue his recording of symphonies by Johann Nepomuk David with the ORF RSO Vienna
Posted by: Esther Schollum on 1/29/2011
Johannes Wildner will continue his CD recordings of Symphonies by Johann Nepomuk David with the ORF Radio Symphony Orchestra Vienna in February and March 2011. This time, he will record the Symphonies no. 1 and 6, the 2nd and the 4th symphonies having been recorded in 2008. The recordings will be released by cpo."
(I shall copy this to the Composers' section of the Forum)
Many thanks to Arbuckle for the opportunity to download Johann Nepomuk David's Symphony No.5, Organ Concerto and Ezzolied etc. :)
I still cannot get over how marvellous this forum if proving to be in making it possible to gain access to all these musical treasures ;D ;D
(I am working hard on unlocking my own vaults of taped British music. I have now identified the 110 tapes I need to digitise and now need to check that they are still listenable ;D)
Thanks to Arbuckle from my side, too! David's 5th symphony is a very pleasant work. This composer did know how to write flowing contrapuntal textures!
Stuttgart/Muller-Kray, hrm (for one of Bleyle works)- that's the orchestra and conductor who are in the performance I have of JN David's symphony no.6 ...
I don't think any of that von Einem conducted by Horvat LP (called "Bruckner Dialogue") has appeared on the medium of the day. (Or indeed much of his non-operatic output except for a few orchestral works- a new recording of the Philadelphia Symphony did appear, I think- and his string trio and a string quartet, I believe... not sure what if more than that though- hrm.)
Anything by Roderich Mojsisovics-Mojsvar (1877-1953, maybe more "Austro-Hungarian" than Austrian... not sure ... ?)
Quote from: eschiss1 on Monday 26 September 2011, 04:24
Also music by David, from apparently a broadcast concert (performers - Hans Müller-Kray/Stuttgart Radio - announced I think- my understanding is poor, but this conductor did have David's music in his repertoire. Anyone? Not sure of date but should be possible to find out. Bielekat lists Kray recordings of Fortner and other works but not David... Worldcat turns up nothing, likewise.
Symphony No.6 (1954):
I.Allegro (6'30")
II. Adagio (9'08")
III. Valser - Rondo: Allegro (with Triple Fugue) (15'08")
Link. (http://www.mediafire.com/?03rp0kl97146k)
Yes, you are right indeed, I also have an old tape of this performance and it is played by Hans Müller-Kray/Stuttgart Radio
Ah, thanks :)
Komauer- Edwin/Edvin (or alternately also Erwin according to Musicsack.com) - said to be Webern's first composition teacher- 1869 (February 11), Klagenfurt -1944 (March 20) (Waiern b. Feldkirchen (Kärnten)). According to PDF from http://www.biographien.ac.at/oebl/oebl_K/Komauer_Edwin_1869_1944.xml (http://www.biographien.ac.at/oebl/oebl_K/Komauer_Edwin_1869_1944.xml), symphony no.1 from 1924. (There is a 2nd symphony by Komauer in D minor from 1935 according to the same source. Both in ms??)
Some information on Komauer and his works can be found in collections of and biographical material regarding Webern - e.g. page viii to the preface of ''The Anton Webern collection: Early vocal music, 1899-1909, Issue 2''.
Thanks for the additional detail on the Komauer Symphony No.1 which I uploaded earlier :)
I did not even have a note of his dates and only knew what was in the BBC announcer's introduction.
I hope that no one is put off by the fact that Komauer was Webern's first teacher ;D His symphony is positively Brucknerian with a prominent part for the organ. :)
well, if one so dislikes Webern as to avoid his piano quintet, his Im Sommerwind, and op.1 D minor Passacaglia (etc.) like the plague, I have nothing...
Agreed :)
Our former President Richard von Weizsäcker chose Webern's Im Sommerwind as part of his birthday concert:
http://www.vinyldisc.de/popshop/product_info.php/konzert-zum-geburtstag-von-richard-von-weizsaecker-p-8490 (http://www.vinyldisc.de/popshop/product_info.php/konzert-zum-geburtstag-von-richard-von-weizsaecker-p-8490)
:D
Quote from: britishcomposer on Sunday 23 October 2011, 21:46
Our former President Richard von Weizsäcker chose Webern's Im Sommerwind as part of his birthday concert:
http://www.vinyldisc.de/popshop/product_info.php/konzert-zum-geburtstag-von-richard-von-weizsaecker-p-8490 (http://www.vinyldisc.de/popshop/product_info.php/konzert-zum-geburtstag-von-richard-von-weizsaecker-p-8490)
:D
That is such a contrast with those politicians who claim to like "pop music" because that is the trendy thing to do :o
I know that I would rather vote for a politician who was honest and said "I hate pop music" or "I detest football" but they won't because they think it would lose them votes ;D
understanding that those who really do love some popular things and some unpopular things would lose votes in one column and the next- well, anyhow, not going to happen (especially in a winner-takes-all, sort of direct-though-mediated-by-electoral college and rather complicated system as in the US (not to get started on financing and fundraising issues.))
Good, detailed, interesting site about the modern composer Armin Kaufmann here (http://www.armin-kaufmann.at/DE/startseite_DE.html) (1902-80) which makes me curious if any broadcasts of his works are available :) (say, the early opus 4, 9, 16 and 17 string quartets or cello and orchestra concert piece opus 7, for example. Or the opus 18 1st symphony. A Preiser LP in the 1970s did couple his 2nd symphony with the 5th symphony of another composer, Leopold Walzel (1902-70), a contemporary. Some of his mandolin music is on CD.)
Herzogenberg 2 from http://www.allmusic.com/album/heinrich-von-herzogenberg-symphonies-1-2-w149119/tracks (http://www.allmusic.com/album/heinrich-von-herzogenberg-symphonies-1-2-w149119/tracks) -
Allegro
Andante quasi allegretto
Allegro moderato
Allegro con brio
Eric
Thanks for the Herzogenberg: to my ears, a much more committed rendition than the one on CPO. Not as smooth maybe, but much more lively.
I am uploading a BBC recording of a performance given in London in 1980 of
Gottfried von Einem's "Ludi Leopoldini: Variations on a theme by Emperor Leopold I" op. 55 for orchestra.
The conductor is Wolfgang Sawallisch but I do not know which orchestra he is conducting. Can anyone find this out?
If all else fails, will write down to look through centerpieces of the issues of the Musical Times from that year at the library (with their concert listings...)
Einem: in a concert with Mozart's Linz symphony, Vienna Symphony, Royal Festival Hall, August 2 1980. Thanks!
Quote from: eschiss1 on Monday 31 October 2011, 23:25
Einem: in a concert with Mozart's Linz symphony, Vienna Symphony, Royal Festival Hall, August 2 1980. Thanks!
The Vienna Symphony Orchestra. Really!
I have amended the details to that effect.
Thanks :)
Odd that I should have omitted Gottfried von Einem's Concerto for Orchestra of 1943 from the list I compiled of Concertos for Orchestra. I have just found a tape-recording of the work ;D
The recording is from a BBC broadcast in 1978 but I do not know the orchestra or conductor.
I shall upload it.
hrm. it's his opus 4, was broadcast in 1997 with Alexander Titov conducting the BBC Symphony Orchestra, Cadensa has "Recording Date 1997?" - it could be an earlier recording that they're misidentifying - will keep looking though. Perhaps it's the same recording rebroadcast and misfiled :)...
(composed 1943; premiered April 3 1944, Berlin Staatskapelle, conducted by Karajan; scoring 3 flutes (3rd doubles piccolo), 2 oboes, 2 clarinets, 2 bassoons, 4 horns, 3 trumpets, 3 trombones, tuba, timpani, strings; (http://www.boosey.com/pages/cr/catalogue/cat_detail.asp?musicid=5876 (http://www.boosey.com/pages/cr/catalogue/cat_detail.asp?musicid=5876) and http://www.einem.org/en/komp_wv.htm (http://www.einem.org/en/komp_wv.htm)). Hrm. Wonder about the 1978 broadcast though, will see what I can find out...
Definitely 1978. The BBC announcer refers to the fact that von Einem "will be 60 this year" and the composer was born in 1918.
It could be an Austrian radio broadcast being aired by the BBC?
yep. hrm- out of curiosity, do you hear any instruments not accounted for in that list (like a harp) :)
I also have a recording of von Einem's Concerto for Orchestra Op. 4, played by the WDR Symphony Orchestra under the baton of Othmar Mága. I will download Dundonnell's new version and compare it, since of course there is a chance it could be just that one.
I have now done what I announced, but unfortunately, the result it that Dundonnell's recording seems to be a different one, which means the performers are still left to be identified.
Thanks- unfortunately the Kaufmann website doesn't list the movements if any of the 2nd symphony (doesn't even list those dates of composition, just gives 0000) but looking forward to hearing those works.
Also, Hartmut Krones (at the American Symphony Orch. site) discusses Rubin's symphony 4 here (http://www.americansymphony.org/concert_notes/symphony-no-4-dies-irae-1943-45-1972) (since they also have performed it, as you said.) Hopefully interesting to others too so am providing the link.
Movement listing for Johann David's 5th symphony (also from Handbuch der internationalen Konzertliteratur @ GoogleBooks preview ) -
op.41 -
I. Adagio (??? sounds like Allegro - anyone have a score?)
II. Adagio
III. Scherzo
IV. Alla breve
(the first definitely seems a typo)
I am uploading three works by Franz Schmidt in recordings from Austrian Radio made at the time of the Schmidt centenary celebrations in 1974:
Symphony No.2
Piano Concerto
Variations on a Hussar's Song
The Piano Concerto is played by Friedrich Wuhrer who had a close personal connection with Schmidt and performed in many of his chamber and instrumental compositions.
Hi Colin,
Thanks for Franz Schmidt. His Symphony no.2 is one of my favorite symphony :)
I went concert of Christian Arming and New Japan Philharmonic performed this symphony last Saturday.
It was wonderful experience for me!
The Franz Schmidt Symphony No.3 I have just uploaded is not played by the greatest orchestra in the world(the BBC Welsh Symphony Orchestra) but it is conducted by Milan Horvat who made quite a speciality of Schmidt's music ;D
Quote from: A.S on Tuesday 06 December 2011, 08:57
Hi Colin,
Thanks for Franz Schmidt. His Symphony no.2 is one of my favorite symphony :)
I went concert of Christian Arming and New Japan Philharmonic performed this symphony last Saturday.
It was wonderful experience for me!
Happy to oblige, Atsushi :)
Colin, the soloist in Helmut Eder's Concerto for Bassoon and Chamber Orchestra Op. 49 (1968) is Milan Turković.
Thanks for that info' Holger :) I have added his name to the post.
Is the Trhlik Rubin 5 a radio broadcast also, or a little-known recording? Worldcat seems offhand to list only an Amadeo LP (by Sawallisch?)
Eric
Following on from the Eduard Strauss which I upload earlier today, here are some Johann Strauss II recordings possibly of interest to (hopefully) some, (potentially) few, (probably) one or (possibly) no members.
In the early 1970s the nonogenarian Robert Stolz (1880-1975) recorded his swan-song albums for the short-lived BASF label. These included two double-albums entitled Come to the Ball and Johann Strauss in St Petersburg which both were devoted to then-completely unknown repertoire.
Of course all these pieces are now included in Marco Polo's Johann Strauss II Edition, but Stolz is incomparable in this field and, as these performances have never appeared on compact disc (and probably never will) I have uploaded my LP copies. These are a useful supplement to the splendid Eurodisc set of Viennese music conducted by Stolz with the Vienna and Berlin Symphony Orchestras, originally presented in four luxurious 5-disc LP boxes and later issued on 12 CDs (and subsequently re-issued by RCA) - all works that Stolz did not otherwise record -
Hofballtanze - Walzer, Op.298
Damenspende - Polka francaise, Op.305
Debut - Quadrille, Op.2
Ballstrausschen - Polka schnell, Op.380
Fest Marsch, Op.452
Burgerball - Polka, Op.145
Auroraball - Polka francaise, Op.219
Lawyers' Ball - Waltz, Op.177
Lawyers' Ball - Polka schnell, Op.280
Rathausball-Tanze - Walzer, Op.438
Aesculap - Polka, Op.130
Aurora - Polka, Op.165
Architects' Ball - Waltz, Op.36
Armenball - Polka, Op.176
Gambrinus-Tanze - Walzer, Op.97
Harmonie - Polka francaise, Op.106
Kronungslieder - Walzer, Op.184
Nikolai - Quadrille, Op.65
Fest-Polonaise, Op.352
Grossfursten-Marsch, Op.107
Auf zum Tanze! - Polka schnell, Op.436
St Petersburg - Quadrille, Op.255
Hofball - Quadrille, Op.116
Alexander - Quadrille, Op.33
An der Wolga - Polka mazur, Op.425
Grossfurstin Alexandra - Walzer, Op.181
Kronungs - Marsch, Op.183
Abschied von St Petersburg - Walzer, Op.210
Im russischen Dorfe - Fantasie, Op.355
Newa - Polka francaise, Op.288
Russische Marsch - Fantasie, Op.353
:)
Albion - these Strauss recordings are excellent - thank you :) :) - and I suppose they can be included here as "unsung compositions" - something we don't do very often. Stolz was such a passionate advocate for this music, and it just had to be him who recorded these rare items.
In any case, they certainly fill a big gap in my effort to complete my Strauss family collection - I guess Jr. alone published about 600 works, so I've a way to go yet!
When I want cheering up, the Strauss family usually does the trick! ;D ;D
Re. Hans Rott String Quartet in c minor
I could swear I heard the theme from Mahler's Adagietto (Symphony no. 5) at 12:30.
Anyone had the same experience?
Anyway, thanks for the upload!
Have you ever heard Rott's symphony? At least half of it could have been written by Mahler - in fact much of it, in one form or another, turns up in Mahler's early symphonies.
Yes, I've heard Rott's symphony (written at a time when he and Mahler were still in good terms and could have influenced each other), but I didn't expect to hear another "mahlerian" theme in a second work by Rott. which really took me by surprise.
Many thanks to Holger for his downloads of the two unrecorded symphonies by Gottfried von Einem-the Munchen and the 4th :)
A word about Karl Goldmark's second pianoforte quintet., written when he was well into his eighties. The IMSLP gives a "Composition Year" of 1915, which I very much doubt since the composer expired on the second of January. So let's say 1914. The score was published in 1916, and there the work is described as "his last." Grove's Dictionary tells us that it "incorporates impressionistic elements." Whether he can rightly be regarded as Hungarian or Austrian is another thorny question, which I leave to others.
Some people (many many too many) on IMSLP/petruccilibrary.org write "composition year" so as not to leave that field blank when they already have the publication year written somewhere. The rules of the site are to leave the field blank if one doesn't know, or at least have good evidence for, the contents of the field, and that's once again good reason to follow those rules (it's not the only time someone foolishly *GRUMBLE!* doing that has led to a posthumous composition date being claimed. Sometimes the "ca." dodge is used instead, but that's not really acceptable either- if a work by Mendelssohn was published for the first time in 2012 it doesn't mean it was composed "ca.2012", for instance...)
Goldmark's quintet was written in late 1914, according to Juilliard's online library catalog - they have a copy of the manuscript, every movement of which is dated (it was written in Vienna between September 27 and November 16, 1914, more or less.) So your guess of 1914 is right on the money...
So yes, sometimes one can find out these things-- but not from publication date alone :)
Sorry- correction:
"Each movement dated at end, with movements 2-4 also signed, written variously in Unterach, Gmunden, and Wien, Österreich between September 27 and November 16, 1914"
I have just uploaded a broadcast of the Piano Concerto Op.15 by Rudolf Kattnigg, being another one of my you tube to MP3 efforts.
Hinson's Guide describes it as a work that might not be worth the effort to bring it up to performance level and the gentleman who uploaded to you tube described it as a piece of utter boredom and no musical substance.
Strangely, I found myself captivated to the extent that I simply had to listen to it again, immediately after my first hearing.
Dunno what you chaps will think.
Thal
A caution?
The Czech announcement for the wonderful Goldmark Quintet hints that it may be the same performance as that on CPO 777 277 - Sine Nomine Quartet and Oliver Triendl.
Can anyone confirm this?
According anyway to Allmusic (http://allmusic.com/album/karl-goldmark-piano-quintets-op-30-op-54-w176601/tracks), the Goldmark 2nd quintet on cpo has timings
#Sehr mäßig - Allegro non troppo 8:19
#Adagio 10:00
#Sehr langsam - Allegro moderato 7:09
#Moderato assai 9:47 .
can check later if someone else doesn't first to see if, give or take differences due to pauses between movements, this isn't uncomfortably close to the timings on the uploaded recording.
Quote from: Dundonnell on Tuesday 07 February 2012, 14:55
Many thanks to Holger for his downloads of the two unrecorded symphonies by Gottfried von Einem-the Munchen and the 4th :)
Seconded. I've just been listening to these and surprised how strikingly good I find them given my previous indifference to much of von Einem's music. Strongly reminiscent of Mahler in certain respects, - but also Bruckner at times. Often movingly so. They make me think of Egon Wellesz's early Symphonies.
Apostel: thanks- I quite like his first string quartet (from the set with Zemlinsky's quartets, on DG) and look forward to hearing more of his music.
I have just uploaded a WDR broadcast of Heinrich von Herzogenberg's choral-orchestral work 'Die Weihe der Nacht'.
The German Herzogenberg website mentions this broadcast but it doesn't give any information if the work has been released on CD.
So I hope you may enjoy it! :)
Atsushi - any idea of the date of the Andergassen 4th symphony? :)
As for Andergassen's Fourth: it's his Symphony No. 4 in F Minor, Op. 73, and it was composed in 1945.
Thank you , Holgar ;)
Yes, thank you indeed. :)
I've just added the broadcast of last Friday's premiere performance of Brian Newbould's new completion of Schubert's Symphony in D D708a, which would have fallen between what we now number his Sixth and his Seventh. A 17 minute set of fragments orchestrated by Newbould was issued a few years ago by Hyperion, but this is a realisation of the full work, roughly half of which has been composed by Newbould as it has expanded now to 35 minutes duration.
Quote from: Mark Thomas on Saturday 31 March 2012, 17:03
I've just added the broadcast of last Friday's premiere performance of Brian Newbould's newly completion of Schubert's Symphony in D D708a, which would have fallen between what we now number his Sixth and his Seventh. A 17 minute set of fragments orchestrated by Newbould was issued a few years ago by Hyperion, but this is a realisation of the full work, roughly half of which has been composed by Newbould as it has expanded now to 35 minutes duration.
Many thanks, Mark Thomas :)
I love that Hyperion disc and look forward to this new version.
Quote from: Mark Thomas on Saturday 31 March 2012, 17:03
I've just added the broadcast of last Friday's premiere performance of Brian Newbould's new completion of Schubert's Symphony in D D708a, which would have fallen between what we now number his Sixth and his Seventh. A 17 minute set of fragments orchestrated by Newbould was issued a few years ago by Hyperion, but this is a realisation of the full work, roughly half of which has been composed by Newbould as it has expanded now to 35 minutes duration.
Also, thanks from me for posting this recording. When I was 12 or 13 years old, I was a huge Schubert admirer and at that point, I also bought Neville Marriner's box of all Schubert symphonies including the fragments (except D 2B, which has never been recorded as far as I know).
Since then, my prime interests have shifted towards more modern music, but I still keep Schubert in high esteem and I am especially fascinated by his fragments because it is intriguing to "watch him at work" in a way, to see how he tries out new ideas and approaches, abandons his projects again for reasons which sometimes remain uncertain and so on. This all leaves much room for speculation, and I always liked to think about it.
Newbould's completion of Schubert's Symphony in D major, D.708a is a fascinating and to my mind thoroughly successful exercise in re-construction. There are clear hints of what was to come in Schubert's output as he seemingly groped his way towards a new mode of symphonic expression. Wonder whether Chandos recorded it...?
Now available in the Downloads board are uploads of two fine late-romantic symphonic poems by Siegmund von Hausegger: Barbarossa and Wieland de Schmied. They were broadcast on German radio in 2000 at about the same time as it broadcast a performance of his Natursinfonie from the same performances. To date cpo have only issued that work and so, while we are waiting, I thought we might as well hear what we are missing!
Quote from: Mark Thomas on Friday 25 May 2012, 15:45
Now available in the Downloads board are uploads of two fine late-romantic symphonic poems by Siegmund von Hausegger: Barbarossa and Wieland de Schmied. They were broadcast on German radio in 2000 at about the same time as it broadcast a performance of his Natursinfonie from the same performances. To date cpo have only issued that work and so, while we are waiting, I thought we might as well hear what we are missing!
Marvellous, Mark :) Thank you very much indeed :)
Thanks for uploading the recording of Schubert D708a - I do see that incomplete versions by Newbould and others (scherzo, and portions of the other movements) has been floating about and recorded a few times (in recordings from 1981 - Marriner - or so to 1997? or so - Mackerras - and inbetween ) but it's good to have a conjectural 4-movement version :) (The 1997 recording on Hyperion, for instance, has about the full Scherzo, but only half the length for each of the other movements, not yet completed by Newbould at the time. Hyperion link. (http://www.hyperion-records.co.uk/tw.asp?w=W8092&vw=dc)) (There was also a 1980?? - reissued on CD 1991? - recording with Gulke conducting his own completion.)
Of course, the Scherzo is far and away the best part anyway.....but I do enjoy the fuller work nonetheless.
And thanks for the Hausegger, I do love the Natursinfonie and am interested in hearing more from him.
I don't think that there is much more, beyond the Natursinfonie and the two works which I uploaded. Of orchestral music there's a Dionysische Phantasie which preceded Barbarossa and a set of variations, Aufklänge, which he wrote between Wieland der Schmied and the Natursifonie. Other than that it's two operas and a Mass from his youth together with a late Requiem.
Dundonnell: Re Schmidt:
thanks- even though that's Wührer's arrangement (as with the piano quintets I have by him- original left-hand versions by him are rarely recorded, and though I haven't heard them, John Wiser's review of a recording of the quintets in G and B-flat made some good points about why they should be moreso) that increases my works of Franz Schmidt by 3 (will probably download the Variations too later- hrm - and I already have a symphony, two quintets and a tape of part of his oratorio- not counting that as I really haven't listened to it... yep- doubles it. Thanks indeed :) Have already heard two of those three works and perhaps the variations and concerto too, and am very glad to add them to my collection to relisten.
Always seemed a sign of the times- or something (I try not to generalize this way) - that on receipt of Schmidt, Schreker and other biographies, the Tempo magazine reviewer in the 1970s(?) took the opportunity to toss off Schmidt as personally and musically practically entirely boring. *sigh* :( Wrong, of course. I will not mention which composers were lauded in the same issue and an adjacent one (I agree with one or two- Roger Sessions, for instance, but the musics of many of the rest praised in the main part of those issues really do strike even me, fan of much modern music, as just -that-. Ah well.)
Quote from: Mark Thomas on Saturday 26 May 2012, 07:43
I don't think that there is much more, beyond the Natursinfonie and the two works which I uploaded. Of orchestral music there's a Dionysische Phantasie which preceded Barbarossa and a set of variations, Aufklänge, which he wrote between Wieland der Schmied and the Natursifonie. Other than that it's two operas and a Mass from his youth together with a late Requiem.
The two pieces by von Hausegger provided by Mark turn out to confirm the splendid impression created by the Natursinfonie :) What a grand composer von Hausegger was ;D
Mark referred in one of his recent posts in the German Music Downloads Discussion thread to his German and Austrian downloads helping to address the issue of balance between 19th and 20th century music on this forum. This is the ideal way to do that....by providing such superb examples of high Romanticism. Although my own tastes lie more towards the 20th century they do not extend very far into anything which is not basically tonal. I most definitely DO appreciate music such as that by von Hausegger, Goldmark et al :) :) The more of this that other members can supply the better :)
Quote from: Mark Thomas on Saturday 26 May 2012, 07:43
I don't think that there is much more, beyond the Natursinfonie and the two works which I uploaded.
Heh, by 'more' I meant that which was uploaded, sorry...
Ah, I see.
Yes, many, many thanks to Mark for taking the time to upload all of these marvelous late Romantic works. From the few that I've digitized, I know how much effort it takes.
To second Colin's plea for more of the same from anyone else who may have hidden gems on their shelves. I think our tastes are nearly the same although perhaps mine doesn't run quite as far into the 20th century as his do.
Jerry
Found a new broadcast of Einem's Philadelphia symphony coming up, but also noticed that Horvat's recording of the same work, which has been uploaded here, is or was on CD on Point Classics (released in 1996 with two works by Hindemith). Ouch!...
I've added the attractive Piano Trio of Mathilde Kralik von Meyrswalden, a pupil of Bruckner. Its four movements are nicely contrasted, her material is memorable and there's a freshness and vitality to the whole work which is quite invigorating. The attacca transition from the brief Scherzo to the Finale is especially effective. It was broadcast by Austrian Radio a few days ago.
Re: Homerische Symphonie by Theodor Berger, does anybody know the titles of the 3 movements?
The link to Einem's Orchestermusik, posted by LukasPayne, has gone dead. Not sure how to contact him. Did anyone manage to download it, who would be able to re-post with a working link?
Same with Orfeo's post of Krenek's Symphonische Musik für 9 Soloinstrumente and Czerny's Konzert für Klavier vierhändig und Orchester C-Dur op.153. Dead links. Could someone re-up?
Drats! Another gone missing.
Arbuckle's post of Skolaude Symphonic Study / Malkunowo (Symphonic Poem)
I fell behind during my busy spring and now trying to catch up.
I can repost the von Einem and the Skolaude :)
I shall do so but please give me at least 24 hours to do so :) After completing the Henk Badings Catalogue I am in a state of mental collapse and would probably mess up the uploading ;D
I've added a link to an attractive set of orchestral variations by Wilhelm Kienzl (1857-1941).
Quote from: Dundonnell on Saturday 09 June 2012, 20:25
I can repost the von Einem and the Skolaude :)
I shall do so but please give me at least 24 hours to do so :) After completing the Henk Badings Catalogue I am in a state of mental collapse and would probably mess up the uploading ;D
Now done ;D
I've uploaded some of Ignaz Brüll's attractive and well put together orchestral music: the Concert Overture Macbeth, the Overture to the opera Das Goldene Kruetz and a Dance Suite: Tanzweisen.
Did someone manage to catch/record the new broadcast of Gardelli conducting Einem's Philadelphia Symphony on June 3rd on BR-Klassik? I think the recording we do have uploaded of this work has appeared on CD.
Unfortunately for Johann N David the only symphonies for which I have "tracking" so far I think are nos. 5 (the Adagio; Adagio ; Scherzo; Alla breve that I had from somewhere or other now filled out with as Adagio-Allegro at the beginning which makes more sense - yes, I understand, Adagio is the slow introduction to the first movement...) and no.6 (Allegro ; Adagio ; Wiener-Walzer ; Rondo: Allegro (with Triple Fugue) ). Again, once I am less lazy will take a bus to the library and go through the miniscore of no.8 and take some quick notes- likewise for nos. 1 and 2 just in case anyone decides to post those :) (the university only has, I think, his symphonies 1, 2, 6 and 8, not the other 4.)
Hrm. Sorry about all the posts.
More on Hermann Pius Vergeiner / Pius Hermann Vergeiner (?):
student of Bruckner;
the article (sorry, edit, not-a-book :) )
Der Brucknerschüler Hermann Pius Vergeiner 1859-1900 : ein Beitrag zur Musikgeschichte Oberösterreichs im 19. Jahrhundert
by Wilhelm Jerger, published by OÖ Landesverlag of Linz in 1976, hopefully has more information...
Worldcat only lists a few libraries with this (well, actually, they have a few entries- I'll check the others), but hopefully someone may find it and can fill in some info. Will try to find out a bit more.
This article on Vergeiner (some of whose music was uploaded here, and about whom so little information seems otherwise available?- that's why this comment) was published in Österreichische Heimatblätter, 30.Jg., Heft 3/4.
Hopefully legally (I think by the magazine itself) the whole PDF of the article (pp 145-173) has been uploaded here biography (http://www.ooegeschichte.at/uploads/tx_iafbibliografiedb/hbl1976_3_4_145-171.pdf) (German). (hrm! some days I love the internet.)
Sydney Grew - thank you for the Frühling pianoforte quintet - I've greatly enjoyed listening to it this morning, before breakfast! A great way to start the day. :)
Just one question. I am always typing "Australian"when I mean Australi ..... there! done it again! ;D Is this from an Australian radio broadcast, or should it be Austrian?
Some weeks ago I visited a concert in Weimar, where Frühling's Quintet was performed by the Klenke Quartet (a well known ensemble here, they had recorded Goldmark's String Quartet) and Jonathan Aner, piano. But unfortunatly it seemed that there was no recording of this piece available. Many thanks to Sydney Grew for providing this attractive, tuneful work!
Is there a chance you kept the program as a souvenir and can provide the tempos for the scherzo and finale movements?
http://www.editionsilvertrust.com/fruhling-piano-quintet-Op.30.htm (http://www.editionsilvertrust.com/fruhling-piano-quintet-Op.30.htm)
"The last movement, though simply marked Finale, ..."
I'm not seeing much hope of the latter.
Also, check the (first edition, I think - Leuckart, plate 4677 on the score, and published 1894 acc. to HMB) score and parts at IMSLP (http://imslp.org/wiki/Piano_Quintet,_Op.30_(Fr%C3%BChling,_Carl)) (NOTA BENE: not an invitation to a broader argument.)
Hrm. Whoops. I'm thinking Mr. Silvertrust missed that... :)
Ok:
Scherzo: Allegretto grazioso.
Finale: Allegro vivace.
And there y'have it...
The first movement's not quite right either, I think- it should be Allegro molto agitato ed appassionato, according to the first edition score and parts (they may not have been playing from the first edition; whether the composer himself made the changes though I don't know). But that's an ordering thing... and a question of what the "molto" applies to!
In fact it sounds like they were playing from the Silvertrust parts (that sounds exactly like his description of the movement titles, not the first edition; the differences are the same). I'm guessing his parts were prepared for their performance- which sort of symbiosis is a happy and common occurrence - but that's just a guess on my part. It would explain where the soundbites on the page come from (although the Jupiter Symphony Chamber Players (in New York City) -also- took up the Frühling Quintet for their concerts (2010 December 12)- one of which I attended to great joy recently (this year) - in the last few years, and they could also have provided a recording of their performance for his use in this connection for all I know.)
The original of the Rubin 2nd Symphony has rapid drop-outs for a minute or two in the right channel that make it nearly unlistenable (believe me!). So I replaced that section with a mono section using the left channel only, reverting to stereo when the right channel recovers its consistancy.
One of my favorite Rubin symphonies! Spunky!
Weigl piano left-hand concerto: Patterson (One Handed: A Guide to Piano Music for One Hand, page 222) gives the movements, based on the two-piano reduction, as Allegro ; Adagio ; Rondo: Allegro . (Caveat: Arrangements sometimes have different movement descriptions from those of the original work, even when, as with eg Gouvy's 2nd symphony, they're made by their composers - don't know if that's true here anyway.)
Quote from: semloh on Wednesday 20 June 2012, 21:39. . . Just one question. . . . Is this from an Australian radio broadcast, or should it be Austrian?
Definitely the former this time - my Sydney period. The A.B.C. might have records somewhere of the performers. It is indeed a beautiful work. I see Frühling wrote many waltzes, lost his money in the inflation following the war, and spent his remaining years in straitened circumstances . . .
BTW the Weigl piano concerto does seem to be Allegro/Adagio/Rondo after all (my doubts about changes in the reduction notwithstanding :D ) - the Fleisher Collection has the full-score manuscript (144 pages) and their online catalog confirms this. They're a good first stop for such things (not that they have everything one looks for of course (erm... of course... ) but they often - not always - have instrumentation and movement listings for the material in the Fleisher (no c) collection and some material outside of it. basically here (http://catalog.freelibrary.org).)
Quote from: Sydney Grew on Saturday 23 June 2012, 01:25
Quote from: semloh on Wednesday 20 June 2012, 21:39. . . Just one question. . . . Is this from an Australian radio broadcast, or should it be Austrian?
Definitely the former this time .............
Many thanks for clarifying that, Sydney. It's nice to have members with Australian connections. :)
How many symphonies did Marcel Rubin write? I thought, for some reason, 8, but the New York Public Library catalog lists the score of a 10th, "Hommage à Chartres". (Now that I see, Wikipedia says ten.) NYPL also lists concertos, other works and a second string quartet published 1982 (in score alas, not a recording- well, if someone has the parts, I'm sure someone can get the rights to record it at some point.) Meanwhile, thanks for all the uploads!
I think HMB doesn't list the Kralik as being published until 1897, so if it was composed 17 years earlier, that's yet another reason (and a relatively minor one) for people to be careful (not that many will be) about using publication dates where composition dates are meant (and specifically requested, e.g. the "Composition Date" field of a IMSLP workpage...) looking forward to hearing what promises to be an interesting and even good work.
Is the Weigl another Wittgenstein commission?
Ah. Never mind. I see it was dedicated to him, but not commissioned by him, and apparently never performed by him either.
The Hans Gal Music for for String Orchestra has been made available in the Austrian Music section but his Cello Concertino and the Cantata "De Profundis" are in the British Music Catalogue.
I have recently posted a catalogue of Gal's orchestral music, treating him as an Austrian composer(as indeed I did Toch, Weigl and Wellesz).
I think that we need to be consistent :) In which case it might make sense to move Gal out of the British section ???
Marcel Rubin
Something has happened to the September 2011 Arbuckle upload of a handful of Rubin's pieces, including his 8th symphony. The URL leads to a page with no information or at least no information I can figure out how to use.
The suggestion was made that others could fill in the blanks of the other symphonies. I can supply 5, 7, 9 and 10 in addition to those subsequently uploaded but not 6 - and 8 has evidently flown the coop.
Best to all
Will re-upload Rubin No. 8 as per Shamokin request
Which Austrian composers might be deemed "popular only under Anschluss"? Recordings of such must be rare.
Many thanks from Shamokin88 for the return of the Rubins; I will put up such symphonies as I have tomorrow.
It is only a few days ago that I posted a complete catalogue of Marcel Rubin's orchestral music.
It is a wonderful surprise to be able to update the catalogue with the addition of five more Rubin symphonies available here. This means that all ten of Rubin's symphonies can be downloaded from this site :) Many thanks to Shamokin and MVS :)
Kaufmann sym. 3- the orchestra's description sounds similar, not sure - the premiere was given " 22.12.1967, Wien, Großer Sendesaal des ORF, Großes Rundfunkorchester, Dirigent: K. Etti" (see Armin-Kaufmann.at (http://www.armin-kaufmann.at/DE/werke_stuecke_sonaten_5_DE.html)) - wondering if that broadcast might be of the 1967 premiere of the 1962-66 work (symphony no.3, op.83.)
...could be! I just have the information supplied to me on the tape... which is usually reliable since it comes from Mike Herman.
About Rubin 9 - who was Walter Fägel? I admit I have never heard of this conductor, which says nothing of course...
it seems MusicSack and some other sources haven't either. I'll keep looking. (The conductor's name as pronounced doesn't sound like Fägel to me- which I think would be more of an eh or aei sound - I'll have to check my pronouncing sources :) ... , but more like Feigle? Weigle? Weigele? - the vowel comes out distinctly as an aye/hard i...)
I have it, I think: Walter Veigl, who is mentioned as a conductor elsewhere, is also a modern composer, the pronunciation and dates fit, I think. Yes. Well, at least, perhaps? (The announcement before Rubin 9 also lists at least 3 of the movements/sections of the work in German. Good, one doesn't have to seek them elsewhere. Allegro deciso - molto tranquillo - Tema con variazioni - (didn't catch the last if there is a fourth- will listen soon and see. :) )
The recent Karl Weigl offerings are most welcome, especially the Triad LP with the 6th String Quartet - I used to have a copy. The Record Hunter store in New York had a bin full of these things during the late 1960s at 99 cents the copy.
There is [or was] a two CD set of his music issued in a limited edition by the Karl Weigl Foundation offering a complete Viola Sonata, the 4th String Quartet, the Two Pieces for 'Cello & Piano on one disc and a collection of songs on the other <kweigl@brsgroup.com>.
I will shortly put up the Violin Concerto, the String Quartet #8, the adagio - only - from the Symphony #2, the same Two Pieces for 'Cello & Piano, the latter from a different source, and the Pied Piper orchestral suite, if I can find it.
The String Quartet #2 has not yet been recorded but it was played in Philadelphia about fifty years ago as part of a recurring chamber music concert series offering mostly baroque and renaissance music. The Weigl snuck in because a viola d'amore is employed rather than a standard instrument.
Another deserving composer who was a victim of history.
Best from Shamokin88.
I was going to post those as well (except the cello works), but please go ahead and post them. I'll fill in the blanks as best as possible. You can still get that two cd set from the Weigl Foundation. Regarding the Pro Defunctis movement from the 2nd Symphony, I debated whether I should upload it or not It's performed by a university student orchestra, the conductor has no control over tempo, so the performance captures none of the movement's drama or gravitas. Maybe it's better than nothing; sometimes I prefer nothing to misrepresenting the intentions of an unsung composer.
Thanks for your uploads.
I just got a note from Greg K that the Rubin 4th that I uploaded ends strangely! Boy, does it ever. There's another piece accidentally stuck on the end! The Rubin ends at about 5:40 in the third movement! Geez! Sorry! I've replaced the link with one for the corrected download. Thanks, Greg!! ...Mercy! :-[ :P :o
Which reminds me that I still haven't listened to the Botstein-conducted Rubin 4 that was uploaded here late last year. Rather an embrace by riches to have two versions (I think) of his 1st and 4th symphonies available to us. I remember seeing scores of a symphony or two of his - back in college - while looking at the shelves over near "Rubbra" :) - but not exploring them at the time, let alone thinking I'd be sometime having a listen and finding them quite good.
Any chance of posting movement information on the Weigl VC?
Jim, just check here:
http://www.violinconcerto.de/database.html?sobi2Task=sobi2Details&catid=2573&sobi2Id=14534 (http://www.violinconcerto.de/database.html?sobi2Task=sobi2Details&catid=2573&sobi2Id=14534)
Quote from: JimL on Wednesday 11 July 2012, 20:41
Any chance of posting movement information on the Weigl VC?
Allegro
Largo
Allegro molto
There are more Karl Weigl files now available in the downloads section.
Amidst all the current buzz over Karl Weigl, could anyone having a close familiarity with the Cycle Symphoniker of Marcel Rubin (available now in its entirety for listening here) offer some insight as to its merits and distinction, and comparative characterization/evaluation of the individual works? Weighty and engrossing if frequently uncomfortable for me, I find this output a formidable discovery in my adventures through UC downloads land, - though my own impressions still lack much clarity. But having played through each of the Symphonies at least once (and a few many times) I will highlight the slow movements as most especially striking, and choose Nos. 4&10 (the "Dies Irae" & "Hommage to Chartres" Symphonies) as my early favorites (with a nod to the announcer on No.10, whose tone, and inflections, and timing are just perfect, and almost a part of the work for me now). These two seem to have a more processional and ritual feel to them than the rest, and relatively more slow music (which might be what draw me). It may seldom be obvious, and I can't quite put my finger on it, but here and throughout all the Symphonies there's a definite Brucknerian legacy to be discerned IMO. Do others agree?
... !!
Er, I mean- Allegro - Largo - Allegro molto for the Weigl violin concerto. Ah. Never mind, missed a whole page of responses. Got my answer from the Fleischer collection library catalog entry (@ catalog.freelibrary.org ) - sometimes a good place to check. (They have a 171 page manuscript score and parts and list the instrumentation as well as the movement breakdown.)
Still slowly going through the Rubin but not actually -familiar- with them yet. Hoping to be, and to learn more about his music and the background, scores and analyses of the individual works, as with others for which such time spent will be also worth it.
I will examine the Rubin. I'm curious, as he is completely unknown to me.
There is, of course, a commercial download available of Rubin's 4th Symphony with the ASO under Botstein...
http://www.amazon.com/Rubin-Symphony-No-Dies-Irae/dp/B003U9ZLX4/ref=sr_shvl_album_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1342084601&sr=301-1 (http://www.amazon.com/Rubin-Symphony-No-Dies-Irae/dp/B003U9ZLX4/ref=sr_shvl_album_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1342084601&sr=301-1)
http://www.amazon.co.uk/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=search-alias%3Ddigital-music&field-keywords=rubin+botstein&x=10&y=19 (http://www.amazon.co.uk/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=search-alias%3Ddigital-music&field-keywords=rubin+botstein&x=10&y=19)
Programme notes are also available:
Symphony No. 4, "Dies irae" (1943-45/1972)
By Hartmut Krones
Early on, the Viennese composer Marcel Rubin (1905-1995) became a citizen of the world both based on his education and his years spent in emigration. Following brief studies with Franz Schmidt, from 1925 to 1931 he became a private student of Darius Milhaud in Paris, where he had some success. In 1938, he set out on a restless journey. First, he emigrated to Paris, later to Marseille, and finally to Mexico City, where he became a rehearsal coach at the opera and accompanied or directed his own works. In 1947, he returned to Austria and became a music critic, but he focused primarily on his work, which includes among others the opera Kleider machen Leute (Clothes Make the Man), four oratorios, ten symphonies, concerti, other orchestral pieces, chamber music and song cycles.
Rubin's style was highly influenced by Milhaud and other masters of the group Les Six, who vehemently railed against the German (specifically Wagner's) so-called sauerkraut-pathos and instead nurtured its fantasy and wit by replacing complex harmonies with melody and rhythm. He also exhibited a superior grasp of form by making even the most artful structures clearly visible, as well as a penchant for humanitarian or social and political themes, which created an "engaged" type of music.
In Mexico, during the years of 1943-45, Rubin's Fourth Symphony was created, reflecting his experiences during World War II: the first two movements tell of its horror, while two others (a pastoral segment and a jubilant fugue) initially hint toward the dream for peace, accounting for the original title, "War and Peace." When Rubin later realized that the longed-for peace did not coincide with the proposed ideals, he destroyed the two positive movements and created a new, subdued pastoral piece with a deeply pensive ending. He chose the "Dies irae" as his new title, comparing the gruesome war with the horrors of judgment day and using the ancient choral sequence as basis of his second and third movements.
The theme of the first movement, a funeral march in the form of a freestyle Rondo, is based on the four stanzas of Bertolt Brecht's deeply moving ballad Kinderkreuzzug 1939 (Children's Crusade 1939), which recounts the story of lost, roaming children who slowly starve to death in winter. A solo viola intones a melancholy theme, which climaxes in a wide orchestral cantilena, until excursions into the major realm represent the dream of a "land where there is peace." After a return of the main theme, a Vivo is heard as central children's episode, before angry orchestral thunderclaps finally destroy all hope. The movement is rounded out with a pianissimo reprise of the distorted main melody.
The "Dies irae" second movement recalls the horrors of war in sonata form. Fanfares sound, followed by the increasingly faster moving main theme reminiscent of the "Dies irae," which eventually becomes rhythmically truncated. Only the secondary theme played by the solo violin allows brief glimpses of a peaceful scenario, but is interrupted by dissonance. The development is fashioned as a double fugue based on the "Dies irae" and a new theme, while a variation of the first movement's main theme appears before the reprise, where the original ancient "Dies irae" hymn is featured as climax.
The muted pastoral ending is a Passacaglia based on the "Dies irae," until the variations give way to a flute passage – a melody from Rubin's Marienliedern, symbolizing the possibility of change through religious meditation. Again, the piece ends with a question, leaving open the possibility of a bright outlook.
http://www.americansymphony.org/concert_notes/symphony-no-4-dies-irae-1943-45-1972 (http://www.americansymphony.org/concert_notes/symphony-no-4-dies-irae-1943-45-1972)
As one might expect from his background, Rubin's music sounds quite un-Germanic: Milhaud and Honegger would, I think, be nearer the mark.
Grove, I now discover, says this:
Rubin's musical language shows the influence of 'Les Six'. In his works tonality and harmony are explored to their limits, and melody retains its importance despite a strong rhythmic emphasis; orchestration is given equal attention to these traditional pillars of musical composition. Other characteristic features include textures made up of multiple voices and clear formal structures. In his later works, Rubin's musical discourse was increasingly placed in the service of humanitarian and spiritual ideas; as a consequence, his musical language gained intensity and scope.
Having contributed several of the Rubin symphonies under discussion you would think I would have something useful to write about him. But at the same time several of those uploaded by others were quite new to me, and I haven't reached anything like a point of taking him all in beyond understanding that he is not an especially "typical" Austrian symphonist. He is less predictable, less likely to reveal the same musical personality from one symphony to the next, very different from, say, Weigl, who is gradually being revealed in UC. Would biologists call him a "sport" if their standards were fixed by Schmidt, Wellesz or Weigl? A stimulating discovery, someone who seemed to have sidestepped what Roger Sessions called "the long line."
QuoteAmidst all the current buzz over Karl Weigl, could anyone having a close familiarity with the Cycle Symphoniker of Marcel Rubin (available now in its entirety for listening here) offer some insight as to its merits and distinction, and comparative characterization/evaluation of the individual works? Weighty and engrossing if frequently uncomfortable for me, I find this output a formidable discovery in my adventures through UC downloads land, - though my own impressions still lack much clarity.... It may seldom be obvious, and I can't quite put my finger on it, but here and throughout all the Symphonies there's a definite Brucknerian legacy to be discerned IMO. Do others agree?
While I can't claim sufficient knowledge of Rubin's symphonies yet to say anything about them with much authority, I will state that I consider them one of my major discoveries in this forum. I'm only now nearing the end of my first traversal through all ten symphonies and each one brings revelations and enjoyment as I listen to them in my car on my way to and from work each day this week.
Certainly, the strongest influence I've detected so far is Les Six, most specifically Milhaud and Honegger, with some Poulenc. The very beginning of the cycle struck me as heavily indebted to Milhaud, though already with an individuality that sets Rubin apart from being a mere slave to Milhaud's style. Honegger comes to mind mostly in the slow movements, and more so as the cycle progresses, where Milhaud's influence seems to wane (especially after #3).
I can't say I hear Bruckner anywhere, but then it's an influence that hadn't occurred to me, and may become more apparent in subsequent hearings.
However, the most striking observation I've made so far is the similarity of vast stretches of Symphonies 7 & 8 to a composer who I've never heard mentioned in the same breath as Rubin, and who I would be amazed if Rubin had even heard a note of -- Havergal Brian. Certainly, Rubin's formal structures are more traditional and less capricious than Brian's, but the orchestration and harmonies of these two symphonies often reminded me very strongly of some of Brian's symphonies (Nos. 8 to 12, in particular). Probably a case of two different composers, pursuing independent directions and stylistic development, some of whose stylistic characterstics briefly crossed paths unbeknownst to either.
In any event, a remarkable composer, who I look forward to getting to know much better, and whose works I will now seek out enthusiastically!
Dear minacciosa,
thanks a lot for the great Weigl treasures you have posted!!
When ordering the recently released CD with Weigl's cello sonata from the soloist Othmar Müller - who also
is the cellist of the Artis quartet - he told me that it seems to be unlikely that they will continue with further
recordings of Weigl's string quartets (in addition to numbers 1, 3 & 5 they have recorded). So it's really a
great surprise to have the missing ones now in this forum!
I am a little bit dissapointed about the news concerning the forthcoming concerto recordings, since the
soloists F.Krumpöck & D.Frühwirth may be not the ideal interpreters of these works.
Do you know, whether there is a way to get Philippe Graffin's Japan performance of Weigl's violin concerto?
I don't know about a Japan performance, but I put his performance in Taiwan in the downloads section today.
That's bad but not unexpected news about Artis' Weigl cycle. They were ideal for the project; Weigl's music demands no less than musicians of that caliber.
I forget if anyone already posted this (they also may be on the recording, but I like them to be printed also :) ), but the movement headings of Weigl's symphony no.1 in E, op.5 are
1. Leicht bewegt --
2. Sehr lebhaft --
3. Langsam --
4. Lebhaft.
The Weigl piano trio has these movements (from here (http://www.dramonline.org/albums/darkness-light-vol-3), from the notes to a commercial recording on Albany with different performers. Though that's not perfect evidence of course- found another example of that today...)
Allegro moderato - Andante - Allegro molto.
Thank you all for the many Weigl uploads! I was unaware that so much had been recorded/performed. :)
Elroel, you wrote you would include sleevenote and songtexts in your file. However, I found only the songs as one wave-file and a text-file, containing your thoughts about Weigl.
It would be nice if you could upload the notes and texts in a separate file! :)
While not described as thoroughly in their online catalog (movement descriptions etc.) one other library that has a whole lot of Weigl manuscripts is the New York Public Library and its associate the American Music Center. Someone wanting to study or perform works by Weigl who can't find a work in MS or score at the Fleisher Collection in Philadelphia may have more luck in NY City now... (if it's in the AMC, appointment recommended in advance, I think - sorry- but still, an excellent resource, I gather.)
And agreed, thanks!
I wonder if Kurt Richter, in the symphony, might be Kurt Dietmar Richter (b.1931)- there seem to have been several musicians by that name (composers and conductors both), I'm not sure anycase. Hrm.
A few scores can be had legally without charge from the SIbley Library. Not everything there has made its way to IMSLP yet.
https://urresearch.rochester.edu/viewContributorPage.action?personNameId=3234 (https://urresearch.rochester.edu/viewContributorPage.action?personNameId=3234)
nor will everything; they have some scores that they are allowed to display as a (real) library under various US copyright law exemptions that don't apply to IMSLP (I hope that my communications on this subject with one of the librarians there are not confidential- I doubt they could be as they concern aspects of US law, but am open to correction.)