At last the Catoire piano concerto in A major, composed in 1909 has been recorded, together with two English piano concertos.
Where? By whom?
and which ones? :)
Information, please, Giles - don't be a tease!
No way! Who where when how?!
It has been recorded by Hiro Takenouchi. A Japanese pianist based in London. See his web site for more details.
...where it says:
<<In 2011 he (Takenouchi) will record two further CDs, firstly Delius's orchestral works arranged for two pianos by various contemporaries (Somm Records), and piano concertos by Sherwood, Catoire and Collingwood with the Royal Scottish National Orchestra (Dutton Epoch).>>
All I can say is corrrrrrrrrrrrr!
The Dutton disk is especially mouthwatering, but what is the connection (one wonders) between Sherwood, Catoire and Collingwood. Sherwood and Collingwood... yes: two English composers, albeit of slightly different periods. But where does Catoire come in? Of course, they may not all be on the same Dutton CD. How nice it would be to have the Catoire PC + Symphony on one, and the TWO Sherwood PCs + the Collingwood on the other! One can dream!
Can anyone actually find a link to this CD, or is it just at the announcement stage? I haven't found anything beyond the announcement. Impatient....!!
I have only found this one reference to the recording.
If you count two American composers of the same surname who I imagine might be related (to Percy- they are, to each other), Sherwood's a bit ambiguous, but I don't know if the others wrote piano concertos- could be. Anyhow, an intriguing release in the offing, agreed.
Update! I wrote to Hiroaki Takenouchi and he replied within about 3 minutes to say the following:
"Thank you for your email. In fact the recording only took place this month so it won't be out for a while I don't think – I'm talking about months potentially. I will however put it on my website as soon as it comes out!
Best wishes,
Hiro
PS. Do you know of any other "good" and un-recorded Russian concertos? "
Now, with regard to his PS, the first thing that came to mind, and which I told him, was the Russian Rhapsody for piano and orchestra by Bortkiewicz. I know there are a number of other posters to this site who would agree! But what other unrecorded RUSSIAN and GOOD (so subjective!) would you recommend? By Russian I am guessing he means "former Russian empire" so also Armenian, Georgian, Ukrainian etc...
Oh, please do tell him to record the L.Afanasyev and V.Agafonnikov Piano Concertos !
Kosenko pc would be a treat to listen !
Tony
Quote from: fyrexia on Tuesday 16 August 2011, 14:42
Oh, please do tell him to record the L.Afanasyev and V.Agafonnikov Piano Concertos !
Kosenko pc would be a treat to listen !
Tony
Can you give some more info about these? Dates, etc? What other works have already been recorded by them?
Would he consider Polish PCs? If so, Zelenski, Zarzycki, Rozycki (2), Maliszewski (especially) - all, I think, available from PWM. There are concertos by Nikolai Strelnikov, and Sergei Vasilenko which I believe are supposed to be attractive. I think Igor Markevich wrote one. Then, of course, there is Felix Borowski (NOT Russian, I know, even though he sounds it - but a lovely concerto) - and one ought not to forget the 2 by Eduard Schutt, who was of Russian extraction.
Better yet - invite him on the board! He probably won't have time to post much, but he could learn a lot about potential repertoire!
It seems that you guys only want piano concertos and/or symphonic works. What about chamber? We're discussing Catoire, and nobody mentioned his violin sonatas, his string quartets or his piano trio. I've v.s. 1 and 2, SQ op.23, Elegy for violin and piano and piano trio op.14. Am I the only chamber fanatic here?
No. Far from it. But there seems to be a project with the PC, so that's what we're talking right now. And that's what Mr. Takenouchi asked for.
Quote from: Christopher on Tuesday 16 August 2011, 14:45
Quote from: fyrexia on Tuesday 16 August 2011, 14:42
Oh, please do tell him to record the L.Afanasyev and V.Agafonnikov Piano Concertos !
Kosenko pc would be a treat to listen !
Tony
Can you give some more info about these? Dates, etc? What other works have already been recorded by them?
L.Afanasyev has a Violin Concerto recorded on lp. His piano concerto, only has 1 movement recorded, and thus.. with many cut outs. And its from a film ... so all you hear is talking in between.
Agafonnikov has an opera recorded called anna segnina or something like that. I believe some of his organ works appeared on a cd with many other organ works by several other composers, and a trumpet sonata has been recently published.
AS for Kosenko, i believe you know him quite well. 3 sonata recorded recently, violin sonatas from lp and a violin concerto has also been recorded.
As i know of the piano concerto, is that was performed with the polish radio orchestra..somehow date unknown.
Tony
Taneyev- far from it... (my wishlist requests for scores on IMSLP are 99.44% string chamber music...)
Hi Tony Fyrexia - actually I had never heard of Kosenko until you mentioned him here. Do you have any more information about the Violin Concerto and Piano Concerto recordings which you mention here? Amazon.co.uk only lists CDs with his works for solo piano.
the performers are unknown in my recording of Kosenko Violin Concerto.
The polish radio supposedly made a recording of the PC featuring Budniczka/Ukrainian SO /Nathan Rakhlin.
Yet i have not encountered it.
Tony
Hrm. Well, as to the Kosenko violin concerto, it could be the 1980 Melodiya LP listed in van Rijen's page, though you're right, it isn't necessarily.
The label the Catoire is on is Dutton. The CD should be out early next year. There are a number of unrecorded Russian pre 1918 works for piano and orchestra. Koreshchenko 1870-1921 Fantasy for piano and orchestra 1894, Ivan Krizhanovsky 1867-1924 piano concerto, Vasily Wrangell Fantasy 1893, Boris Assafiev 1884-1949 piano concerto, Vladimir Pukhalsky 1848-1933 piano concerto.
There is also the first Sherwood piano concerto yet to be recorded !
Hiro Takenouchi does at times play in a piano quartet so I am sure would be open to recording suggestions
QuoteThere is also the first Sherwood piano concerto yet to be recorded !
Does this mean you
know that it is the 2nd Percy Sherwood PC which Mr Takenouchi has recorded?
Quote from: giles.enders on Thursday 18 August 2011, 12:04
The label the Catoire is on is Dutton. The CD should be out early next year. There are a number of unrecorded Russian pre 1918 works for piano and orchestra. Koreshchenko 1870-1921 Fantasy for piano and orchestra 1894, Ivan Krizhanovsky 1867-1924 piano concerto, Vasily Wrangell Fantasy 1893, Boris Assafiev 1884-1949 piano concerto, Vladimir Pukhalsky 1848-1933 piano concerto.
Giles - do you have any further biographical info or reference links on these composers? I have never heard of Krizhanovsky, Wrangell or Pukhalsky. Even if just a wikipedia link?! I found an LP of Asafiev's Flames of Paris and Fountain of Bakhchiserai at the weekend, and will digitalise in due course. And I mentioned the Koreshchenko Fantasy to Mr. Takenouchi already.
I just went into the Russian version of Wikipedia (I know, I know, not the most authoritative sourse...) and looked at the page for the Belyayev Circle, which listed (some of) its composer-members (Fedor Akimenko, Nikolai Amani, Konstantin Antipov, Felix Blumenfeld, Sigismund Blumenfeld, Iosif Vitol, Alexandr Glazunov, Vasiliy Zolotaryov, Ivan Kryzhanovsky, Anatoli Liadov, Vitold Malishevsky, Nikolai Sokolov, Nikolai Tcherepnin, and Alexander Winkler). I then clicked on the link for each of these (although not all of them had an active link). This yielded up one further piano concerto:
Witold Maliszewski (1873-1939)
• Concerto in B♭ minor for piano and orchestra, Op. 29 (1938)
Maliszewski is described as Russian-Polish, and the rector and founder of the Odessa Conservatory (a beautiful city I had the pleasure of studying in for a year and which gave the world, among others, David and Igor Oistrakh, Sviatoslav Richter, Shura Cherkassy, and Emil Gilels, not to mention Anna Akhmatova....I digress!). Anyone know anything else about Maliszewski?
quite a few works by him up at Sibley/Rochester and from there at IMSLP- 3 string quartets opp.2, 6, 15, symphonies (opp. 8, 12, 14, ? and ? - these two poss. w/o op.?), a 2-cello quintet, violin sonata, 1 piano work. Not the piano concerto in any form, yet (but then it was written and first published after 1922- 1938 and 1939 written and published respectively- and so if it was published with a valid copyright marker it wouldn't be PD-US anyway). I like the scores I've seen but haven't heard anything yet. En-Wikipedia also has an article with a brief worklist (5 symphonies, 2 choral works from 1930, the works above). also, wrote a fantasy for piano and orchestra (1928). Teacher of Lutoslawski.
According to the database of works for piano-and-orchestra published by member pianoconcerto (http://www.siue.edu/~aho/discography/Discography.pdf) Maliszewski's concerto has been recorded, as has another piece "Kujavian Fantasy, Op. 25 (1928)".
Eschiss1 - what is Sibley/Rochester? You and others have mentioned it a few times here and elsewhere, but I'm afraid I don't know what it is....
A couple of more Russian Piano Concertos. Forgive me if someone has already listed them:
Blumenfeld, Felix (1863-1931)
Dobroven, A. (1894-1953)
Dzerzhinsky, I. (1909-????) 1,2
Kossenko, Viktor (1896-1938)
Napravnik, Edward (1839-1916)
Zhelobinsky, V. (1913-1946) 1,2,3
Jerry
I know that the Blumenfeld, Dobrowen, Kosenko and Napravnik pieces have been recorded (I have them all except the Kosenko). I don't know anything about the Dzerzhinsky or the Zhelobinsky - do you have any further info? Are they "late-romantic" in style, or discordant-Soviet...? They are not listed on pianoconcerto's aforementioned list as works that have been recorded...
Can only say that they came out of either 54 or 80 Grove's Dictionary.
Jerry
QuoteAccording to the database of works for piano-and-orchestra published by member pianoconcerto (http://www.siue.edu/~aho/discography/Discography.pdf) Maliszewski's concerto has been recorded, as has another piece "Kujavian Fantasy, Op. 25 (1928)".
Yes, but these are not commercially available. Maliszewski wrote 3 symphonies, the scores of which can be viewed on IMSLP.
QuoteDzerzhinsky, I. (1909-????) 1,2
According to Giles, Dzerzhinsky wrote 3 PCs. I think they are all basically tonal and romantic.
It's the digitization arm of the University of Rochester, New York. They digitize lots and lots of things including musical scores (and parts and...) that are public domain in the United States where they're based; see the musical scores institutional collection page (https://urresearch.rochester.edu/viewInstitutionalCollection.action?collectionId=63) which also has an RSS feed as well as a search, or see UR Research (https://urresearch.rochester.edu/) home page.
There are thankfully (to my preservation-minded - mind what has happened to music and books and other art over the ages; nothing is eternal- to my mind- but one can extend! (Yes, I know much is preserved that seems not worth preserving, but much of it is worthwhile to someone, and will never know in advance if it isn't. ... etc. )) many such sites now. A most worthy project, I think! And IMSLP - (where I edit and am now an admin_ also makes much use of Sibley Library/URResearch (whose librarians are very helpful and very responsive on the rare occasions that something hasn't scanned right, for instance, but whose scans and scanning software are much better than those of many of the other sites I know of :) )
Witold Maliszewski's concerto and Kuyavian Fantasy were recorded years ago for the archives of the Polish Radio and have never been issued neither on Lps nor CDs. So they deserve to be recorded anew. the same with a number of other polish piano concertos known solely from off radio registrations
Hear, hear!
Quote from: giles.enders on Thursday 18 August 2011, 12:04
The label the Catoire is on is Dutton. The CD should be out early next year. There are a number of unrecorded Russian pre 1918 works for piano and orchestra. Koreshchenko 1870-1921 Fantasy for piano and orchestra 1894, Ivan Krizhanovsky 1867-1924 piano concerto, Vasily Wrangell Fantasy 1893, Boris Assafiev 1884-1949 piano concerto, Vladimir Pukhalsky 1848-1933 piano concerto.
There is also the first Sherwood piano concerto yet to be recorded !
Hiro Takenouchi does at times play in a piano quartet so I am sure would be open to recording suggestions
Hiro Takenouchi has asked us about other Russian/other? PCs which were not recorded and
are worth to be recorded. all of us we indicate names and pieces that we have found in dictionaries and so on. the question is wether they are really good! I know that for afficionados of PCs - and I believe most of us here are such ones - each unknown piece is of great interest. A number of you are for sure literate in reading scores but I am not. so I cannot judge based on notes that particular composition is nice, good, lovely or so. due to that I think that decisive suggestions may be present by the "notes-literate" participants of the discussion :-). However I will be happy for every new discovery. as I said a day ago there are a numeber of nice Polish conncertos recorded only for radio archives and are broadcasted from time to time. some have been recorded (I know) but were not on the air during my long "career" of collector.
markniew wrote:
<<Hiro Takenouchi has asked us about other Russian/other? PCs which were not recorded and are worth to be recorded. all of us we indicate names and pieces that we have found in dictionaries and so on. the question is wether they are really good! I know that for afficionados of PCs - and I believe most of us here are such ones - each unknown piece is of great interest. A number of you are for sure literate in reading scores but I am not. so I cannot judge based on notes that particular composition is nice, good, lovely or so. due to that I think that decisive suggestions may be present by the "notes-literate" participants of the discussion :-). However I will be happy for every new discovery. as I said a day ago there are a numeber of nice Polish conncertos recorded only for radio archives and are broadcasted from time to time. some have been recorded (I know) but were not on the air during my long "career" of collector.>>
Well, I think the best those of us who are lay-people can do is to bring unrecorded works to the attention of people like Mr. Takenouchi and leave it to his professional judgement as to whether they have worth or not....
the Catoire's PC ins't in A flat?
I haven't seen the score but somewhere i read that in its big orchestra there aren't horns.
Bye, Andrea
The PC is indeed in A flat.
How's Jeremy Norris' books on the Russian Piano Concerto in the 19th Century? Haven't read them, may go see if the local university has a copy I can browse.
Does Mr. Takenouchi want just Russian concertos, Russian concertos and concertos from countries like the Ukraine that were at one point Russian, or concertos from that general geographical area? Would help in looking for an answer, as would a general timeframe :)
Quote from: reineckeforever on Sunday 21 August 2011, 22:31
the Catoire's PC ins't in A flat?
I haven't seen the score but somewhere i read that in its big orchestra there aren't horns.
Bye, Andrea
Speaking of weird orchestras, has anybody noticed that in Herz' PC 1 there are no trumpets? Timpani, yes, trombones, yes, but no trumpets. Kind of odd.
Quote from: eschiss1 on Monday 22 August 2011, 14:55
Does Mr. Takenouchi want just Russian concertos, Russian concertos and concertos from countries like the Ukraine that were at one point Russian, or concertos from that general geographical area? Would help in looking for an answer, as would a general timeframe :)
I have assumed he means countries of the former Russian and Soviet empires, and so have included Ukrainians, Georgians, Armenians, etc in my search. I can't answer as to time period....
Well, since Poland has been part of both, let's include it!
Again, not to put a damper on people's enthusiasm, but Mr Takenouchi told me that in order for him to record any repertoire that is not strictly mainstream he has to come to the record company with sponsorship already raised to cover its cost. You can imagine that one would not see much change out of £12 or 13K. I quote: "One thing I always have to face though in going through these recording projects is the matter of finance.... I am always on the look out for the sources of supports/sponsorships. Alas, major recording companies with enough pool of money will never even consider recording these works as you know. So relying on smaller independent labels means that I have to work with the labels in running around to secure funding before the projects can go ahead." You may recall that Adriano said something similar on the Fritz Brun thread.
Perhaps we can collectively help Mr Takenouchi.
Is there some way that we could go through a non-profit of some kind so that for many, at least, gifts would be tax deductible?
Or could we start a non-profit for that purpose? Or does the international nature of this group make such a venture almost impossible? Or perhaps of no benefit to some.
How many of us are there? What would we raise if everyone could put in, say, $50US? Or the equivalent?
Jerry
this is now I think entirely or almost entirely true of those companies, which even recently occasionally at least did slightly surprise with non-mainstream theme series (one thinks of Decca's much-appreciated CDs devoted to music from composers killed in the Shoah & related music, which idea fortunately Naxos with a sponsor has continued. There is, I gather, a similar long-term pattern in the book industry - the disappearance of the prestige sublabels, insistence that everything make a profit followed by insistence that everything make a lot of profit, etc. But I not only digress but digress a -lot-. Pauvre M'r Catoire... )
Actually, I know this thread isn't generally about Catoire, but how accurate, do you know, is the IMSLP list of Catoire's compositions (http://imslp.org/wiki/List_of_compositions_by_Georgy_Catoire) (help us fix it ;) ) and what else remains unrecorded (ah, that I know I can't help you with so directly, but I'm curious...)
USD50 is about as much as I withdraw in a week for food purchases- erm, sorry. Never mind.
There is an Ecole de Musique Georgy Lvovich Catoire (www.catoire.fr) founded by the composer's nephew, but I couldn't find a bio or works list (this might just be my subpar French). Personally, I might be willing to live on roadkill for a week for more Catoire.
If it's any use (and apologies, Alan, for hi-jacking this thread - perhaps you should move the discussion on financing recordings to another thread) the English Music Festival, run by the dauntless Em Marshall, has started its own CD Label. Their first release, as you probably know, was of Violin Sonatas by Bliss, Walford Davies and York Bowen. Em has sent round a circular to all her supporters (probably the entire mailing list of EMF, I expect) inviting subscriptions to cover the cost of that and future recordings (the next planned release is Bantock's Viola Sonata and Holbrooke's Violin Sonata No. 2 - the original version, not the one recorded on Naxos). She suggests a minimum donation of £50, for which supporters would receive the following benefits:
A mention as a named subscriber in the CD booklet;
An exclusive invitation to the CD launch;
A complimentary signed copy of the CD.
In the UK, taxpayers can Gift Aid their donation thus adding 25% to its value, because EMF is a registered charity (as are most arts organisations in the UK).
If 200 people subscribed the minimum and half of those were able to Gift Aid their donation you'd have raised £11, 250. So that would maybe be one CD.
There you have it.
Regarding financing, I suggested to Mr. Takenouchi that he consider working with orchestras from the further Eastern European countries. Not Poland, Hungary, Slovakia and Czech Republic, where general prices are now getting up to West European levels (and which Naxos seems to use a lot), but from countries such as Ukraine, Moldova, Georgia and Armenia. One of the few positive legacies of the Soviet Union is that even the most remote provincial cities have music schools and symphony orchestras that operate to high standards. I would imagine that they are also very low-cost and would be extremely open to recording offers. Furthermore these newly-independent countries have fine classical music traditions of their own.
A friend of a friend here conducted the Belarussian State Academic Symphony Orchestra in making the world premiere recording of the piano concerto by Russian composer Pavel Pabst. If I ever run into him I will ask him how they raised finance. It just needs someone to volunteer to coordinate....
Talking of Naxos - they run a LOT of recordings of non-mainstream composers...how do they finance it?
I also think, as suggested by others above, that it could be a really interesting exercise for this website to see if it could be a platform for raising a large number of small donations and how much that would raise in total. Barack Obama did something similar in raising a huge warchest for his election campaign - he appealed directly to voters to give amounts like $20...!
I agree, but we would need to be careful. Not all these orchestras are equally good - I personally wouldn't go anywhere near the Belorussian outfit, for example...
However, I agree with the basic idea of fund-raising from within our own ranks. The biggest issue, though, may well be that of agreement on repertoire. Or not, as the case may be...
You wouldn't go near the Belarusian orchestra because of the current situation there or because of its performance in existing recordings? Regarding repertoire, I guess a performer would have to state his intended pieces and then see what came forward. If he asked us for suggestions, he would get any number of answers!!
Christopher wrote:
QuoteTalking of Naxos - they run a LOT of recordings of non-mainstream composers...how do they finance it?
A mix: many of their recordings are self-financed but others are supported by enthusiasts for a particular composer or performer.
As for the general question of UC members supporting recordings, as many of you know I've done my bit over the last few years sponsoring, by the end of this year, nine CDs of previously unavailable music by Raff on three different labels. I'm afraid that's it for me, but I would say that it's money which opens the doors, once you have the money then recording companies are generally very enthusiastic about recording our sort of repertoire and very open to new ideas. The message is clear, though: get the money first. Depending upon the label and artists, you're going to need between £8,000 and £12,000 for an orchestral CD is my guess.
Quote from: Christopher on Tuesday 23 August 2011, 00:06
You wouldn't go near the Belarusian orchestra because of the current situation there or because of its performance in existing recordings?
Because of its performance. It's pretty poor. Apparently it can't even be relied upon to provide a full complement of players when recordings are scheduled...
I agree, Alan. The Belarussians have not distinguished themselves of late in that respect. One would need to take advice. I would recommend the Orion Symphony Orchestra with their conductor, Toby Purser, but, being based in the UK, the cost of a recording venue might well be prohibitive. I expect Mr Takenouchi and/or the record company would have a view.
The choice of repertoire would, I think, have to come from Mr Takenouchi. If we each put in our two penn'orth we will get a myriad suggestions. And, after all, he's got to be convinced of the musical worth of the pieces he plays. It would be no good asking him to play something he didn't believe in.
Quite so, Gareth.
If Mr. Takenouchi would like to know some more SOVIET composers. There is a darn lot of them to mention.
All these has written 1 or more then 1 Piano Concerto. And these as far as i know are either not recorded, or little sketches appeared in a film or radio broadcast.
These are my wishlist !
Leonid Afanasyev
Vladislav Agafonnikov (Score was published together with the afanasyev!)
Orest Yevlakhov (I definitely must hear this)
Vyacheslav Ovchinnikov (A must hear to !!)
Nikolai Silvanski (7 Piano Concertos??)
Konstantin Sorokin
Anatoly Samonov
Oleg Moralev
Genrikh Vagner (PC no.2 and 3) (Byelorussian Shostakovich id say?)
Alexander Mosolov (Pc no.2 appeared on the radio some years ago)
All best,
Tony
Tony, regarding G Vagner, was the Piano Concerto in a number 1 then? That's the one that's on an old Melodiya Lp.....
Jerry
Hrm. Wonder if Salmanov's -violin- concertos have been recorded... must look into that.
Quote from: eschiss1 on Wednesday 24 August 2011, 14:14
Hrm. Wonder if Salmanov's -violin- concertos have been recorded... must look into that.
Might want to check Tobias' list, Eric. How're things shakin' over there?
Quote from: jerfilm on Wednesday 24 August 2011, 14:07
Tony, regarding G Vagner, was the Piano Concerto in a number 1 then? That's the one that's on an old Melodiya Lp.....
Jerry
Yes Vagner`s Piano Concerto in a is no.1. And its the only recording i have of all his 3 pcs.
Tony
Quote from: fyrexia on Wednesday 24 August 2011, 13:16
Leonid Afanasyev
Vladislav Agafonnikov (Score was published together with the afanasyev!)
Orest Yevlakhov (I definitely must hear this)
Vyacheslav Ovchinnikov (A must hear to !!)
Nikolai Silvanski (7 Piano Concertos??)
Konstantin Sorokin
Anatoly Samonov
Oleg Moralev
Genrikh Vagner (PC no.2 and 3) (Byelorussian Shostakovich id say?)
Alexander Mosolov (Pc no.2 appeared on the radio some years ago)
All best,
Tony
Oh, quite impressive list! I have just found that Moralev (b. 1922) has composed also Konzertstuck (Concert piece) for pf and orch. (1955), Cto itself is of 1960. As to the Mosolov's no. 2 (On Kyrghys Themes) - has its complete version been recorded? I do have off radio recording of its one movement only.
and what about pf cto no. 2 by Nikolayeva? Do some of you have good recording of it? my old off radio recording is of terrible poor quality.
Marek
..about russian-soviet music for piano and orchestra
who knows Louriè's Concerto Spirituale?
it is scored for Choir, wind orchestra with percussion e doublebasses and Solo piano
dedicated, i hope to remember correctly, Olivier Messiaen's wife (Yvonne Loriod?)
I know there is a big cadenza , sometimes performed as a single piece. Are there recording of it?
My english today is particularly bad...sorry and bye
Andrea
perhaps a broadcast- very little Lourié recorded commercially at all- BBC Sound Archives online has about 2 pages of pieces (but not that one, unless it's under a translated title), and the only other broadcast recording I know of is of his Sinfonia Dialectica (which I have on tape- somewhere :( ).
RE: Marek
Marek,
The Mosolov Pc2, i have been TOLD that i was recorded completely. I am not really sure. Do you mind sharing your recording of the 1st movement of the PC2. I have not heard it myself.
I also have a recording of the Nikolayeva PC no.2, but mines is also of poor quality.
Here is some more from my wish list !
A.Pirumov - Concert Variations for Piano and Orchestra
A.Baltin - Concert Ballade for Piano and Orchestra
Polunin - Concert Variations for Piano and Orchestra
V.Kuprevich - Elegy for Piano and Orchestra
F.Karayev - Concerto for Piano and Chamber Orchestra
N.Rakov - Piano Concertos No.3 and 4
L.Kolodub - Piano Concerto
B.Dvarionas - Piano Concerto No.2
Y.Nikolayev - Piano Concerto No.1 and 2
M.Raukhberger - Piano Concerto (1973)
D.Blagoy - Piano Concerto (1953)
I.Shamo - 2 Piano Concertos
Y.Zimbalist - Piano Concerto
All best,
Tony
Tony, if you'll remind me in October, I have Dvarionas Piano Concerto #2 and also Igor Shamo Concerto #2 for piano, violin and percussion - not sure if that's the same as Piano Concerto #2.....
Jerry
Thanks! I actually really thought that the Dvarionas PC no.2 was not recorded ! As well as the Shamo ones. Oh and little self correction. The Shamo who wrote 2 piano concertos is Yuri, instead of Igor.
I would be very appreciated for your recording !
Tony
Quote from: fyrexia on Thursday 25 August 2011, 14:01
RE: Marek
Marek,
The Mosolov Pc2, i have been TOLD that i was recorded completely. I am not really sure. Do you mind sharing your recording of the 1st movement of the PC2. I have not heard it myself.
I also have a recording of the Nikolayeva PC no.2, but mines is also of poor quality.
All best,
Tony
Hello Tony,
ok I will try to send you the Mosolov piece as well as Nikolayeva. we can compare whose recording is better. how to send it?
best,
Marek
Quote from: fyrexia on Friday 26 August 2011, 13:12
Thanks! I actually really thought that the Dvarionas PC no.2 was not recorded ! As well as the Shamo ones. Oh and little self correction. The Shamo who wrote 2 piano concertos is Yuri, instead of Igor.
I would be very appreciated for your recording !
Tony
I do have also off radio live recording of no. 2 by Dvarionas - poor quality however. And his Violin cto is really delightful.
Marek
dear Eschiss1,
how can I do to read the BBC sound archive?
thx, Andrea
Their catalog(ue) is here (http://cadensa.bl.uk/). That's all i know, I think...
eschiss1...thank you so match...
bye
Apparently the Dutton issue of the Catoire Piano Concerto will be released at end of February/beginning of March. I went to my local record shop back in the UK (Record Corner in Godalming, a BRILLIANT independent record shop and specialist in classical and other music, www.therecordcorner.co.uk (http://www.therecordcorner.co.uk)). When I enquired about the Catoire, the owner, Tom Briggs, picked up the phone and put the question straight to Mr. Dutton! I was impressed.
Good news - thanks for the heads-up!
Indeed, another must-buy I'm afraid.
yes, I myself also see forward to listening!
I believe it is good work and we won't be disappointed.
my experience is that in majority of cases, OK let say quite often, falling into oblivion of many compositions seems to be justified. But of course even such pieces that are not masterpieces are of great value and are very interesting and welcomed by fans of unsung music.
Now there's just one orchestral piece by Catoire left to be recorded, his symphonic poem of 1899 "Mtsyri", Op.13. I wonder if anyone can be persuaded to record it....
(well, ok, there's also a cantata for solo voice, women's chorus, orchestra from 1888 called "Rusalka", Op.5, but I was talking about purely orchestral work...)
which could be recorded together on a disc of Lermontov-inspired music. Neatly done, that. :)
of some interest about Catoire may be this dissertation (PDF) (http://digital.library.unt.edu/ark:/67531/metadc9127/m1/1/high_res_d/dissertation.pdf) (2008, by Natalia Bolshakova) on his life, piano music and specifically his 2nd violin sonata. (In all 56 pages.)
Quote from: eschiss1 on Monday 16 January 2012, 23:24
which could be recorded together on a disc of Lermontov-inspired music. Neatly done, that. :)
What else would be on a list of Lermontov-inspired music?
Catoire - Mtsyri
Ippolitov-Ivanov - Mtsyri
Rubinstein - The Demon
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Quote from: eschiss1 on Monday 16 January 2012, 23:24
which could be recorded together on a disc of Lermontov-inspired music. Neatly done, that. :)
A couple more pieces for a Lermontov CD:
Senilov, Vladimir Alexeevich (1875-1918) - Mtsyri (came across him while researching something else, can't find any evidence he has ever been recorded. Wikipedia says he wrote 3 operas (George the Brave; Vassily Buslaev; Hippolytus, after Euripedes), a symphony, an overture "Autumn", 4 symphonic poems (Wild Ducks, after Maupassant; Mtsyri; Pan; The Scythians), a poem for cello and piano, 3 string quartets, 90 romance-songs. Studied at St. Petersburg law school, and then theory of music in Leipzig under Hugo Riemann, and then at the St. Petersburg Conservatory
Russian-only link - http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A1%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%BB%D0%BE%D0%B2,_%D0%92%D0%BB%D0%B0%D0%B4%D0%B8%D0%BC%D0%B8%D1%80_%D0%90%D0%BB%D0%B5%D0%BA%D1%81%D0%B5%D0%B5%D0%B2%D0%B8%D1%87 (http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A1%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%BB%D0%BE%D0%B2,_%D0%92%D0%BB%D0%B0%D0%B4%D0%B8%D0%BC%D0%B8%D1%80_%D0%90%D0%BB%D0%B5%D0%BA%D1%81%D0%B5%D0%B5%D0%B2%D0%B8%D1%87)
Taktakishvili, Oleg Vassilievich (1924-1989) - Mtsyri (1956, symphonic poem)
Shashina, Elizaveta Sergeevna (1805-1903) - Mtsyri (song, 1863)
Balanchivadze, Andrei Melitonovich (1906-1992, brother of choreographer George Balanchine) - Mtsyri (balet, 1956)
Milka, Bogdan Evgenyevich (b.1973-) - Mtsyri (2001, symphonic poem)
I wonder if any record company could be encouraged to produce a "Mtsyri" CD....
By the way regarding Catoire, I had no idea Oistrakh recorded his violin sonatas (commercially or otherwise), but there they are in a set of "Russian Legends" CDs... hrm! :)
A CD containing a selection of Catoire's songs has been released a couple of months ago. Perhaps this is still new to some of you:
http://www.jpc.de/jpcng/classic/detail/-/art/Georges-Catoire-1861-1926-Lieder-Poems-For-Voice-And-Piano/hnum/1741469 (http://www.jpc.de/jpcng/classic/detail/-/art/Georges-Catoire-1861-1926-Lieder-Poems-For-Voice-And-Piano/hnum/1741469)
I just noticed this website (in German) which seems to be about promoting the music of Catoire and others:
https://www.catoire-musikinitiative.de/ (https://www.catoire-musikinitiative.de/)
I have written to them re his Rusalka cantata.
No info/news about recordings, however?
That's what I've written to them about. And others... fingers are crossed (in hope if not expectation!)