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The Music => Recordings & Broadcasts => Topic started by: Alan Howe on Thursday 12 April 2012, 20:32

Title: If the recording companies were watching...
Post by: Alan Howe on Thursday 12 April 2012, 20:32
If the recording companies were watching this space, which unrecorded compositions would forum members like to see them record? Three CDs-worth of suggestions per person only, please!

Mine:
CD 1 Felix Draeseke:
Overture Bertran de Born;
Symphonic Andante for Cello and Orchestra;
Violin Concerto in E minor (orchestrated by Wolfgang Müller-Steinbach, not yet published).

CDs 2 and 3 to follow!
Title: Re: If the recording companies were watching...
Post by: hemmesjo on Thursday 12 April 2012, 21:01
CD1-3  Sallinen's Kuningas Lear
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Post by: albion on Thursday 12 April 2012, 21:06
CD 1 - Joseph Holbrooke: Apollo and the Seaman, Op.51; Queen Mab, Op.45 (this might have to be issued as a 2-for-1)

CD 2 - Alexander Mackenzie: Suite, London Day by Day, Op.64; Scottish Rhapsody No.3, Tam o'Shanter, Op.74; Suite for Violin and Orchestra, Op.68; Canadian Rhapsody, Op.67

CD 3 - Frederic Cowen: Symphony No.4, The Welsh; A Suite of Old English Dances; A Phantasy of Life and Love; Concert Overture, The Butterfly's Ball


;D
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Post by: Christo on Thursday 12 April 2012, 21:26
CD1: Stanley Bate, Concerto Grosso, Harpsichord Concerto, Cello Concerto
CD2: Arnold Cooke, Symphonies 4, 5, 6
CD3: Ruth Gipps, Symphonies 3, 4, 5
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Post by: Gareth Vaughan on Thursday 12 April 2012, 21:31
CD1 Roger sacheverell Coke: PC 3, PC 4 and remaining fragment of PC 5
CD2 any major orchestral works (symphonies or concerti) by Walter Gaze Cooper
CD3 Stanley Wilson: Skye Symphony + another work by Wilson as a filler
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Post by: Peter1953 on Thursday 12 April 2012, 21:56
CD 1
Dutch Romantic Piano Concertos
Carl A. Smulders (1863-1934)
Piano Concerto in A minor
Jan W.F. Brandts Buys (1868-1933)
Piano Concerto in F major, op. 15

CD2
Willem Kes (1856-1934)
Violin Concerto
Cello Concerto in A minor
Title: Re: If the recording companies were watching...
Post by: Alan Howe on Thursday 12 April 2012, 22:51
Of course, they may well be watching - so do keep the suggestions coming!
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Post by: Rainolf on Thursday 12 April 2012, 23:19
-A CD with Wilhelm Berger's two symphonies. If they are to long for one CD, a set of two CDs, where each symphony is paired with one or two of Berger's pieces for choir and orchestra.

-Wilhelm Petersen: Symphonies Nr. 1 and 3

-Ernst Hermann Meyer: Symphony in B, Symphony "Kontraste-Konflikte", Serenata pensierosa
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Post by: jerfilm on Thursday 12 April 2012, 23:40
OK, the American Romantic Composers Series will start with:

CD1:
Ernest Schelling (1879-1939)
Symphony in c
Violin Concerto

CD2:
Edward Burlingame Hill (1872-19??)
Piano Concerto
Helen Hopekirk (1858-1945)
Piano Concerto
Victor Herbert (1859-1924)
Concertino for piano and orchestra

CD3:
Earl Drake (1865-1915)
Violin Concerto
Henry Holden Huss (1862-1953)
Violin Concerto

Jerry
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Post by: mbhaub on Friday 13 April 2012, 01:59
Based on the recent releases of the works for piano and orchesta, all three cds should be dedicated to the symphonies and other orchestral works (w/o organ) by Charles Marie Widor.
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Post by: allison on Friday 13 April 2012, 02:07
Dora Bright Piano Concerto
Rosalind Ellicott Piano Concerto
with orchestral fillers from either
Title: Re: If the recording companies were watching...
Post by: fr8nks on Friday 13 April 2012, 03:29
Boxed set of Adolfs Skulte's 9 Symphonies

Boxed set of Arturs Grinups' 9 Symphonies
Title: Re: If the recording companies were watching...
Post by: Jimfin on Friday 13 April 2012, 05:29
Opera and choral works are underrepresented in the recording catalogues, so I'd say any pre-Grimes British operas (especially those of Stanford, Mackenzie, Holbrooke or Boughton), and any unrecorded choral works, Stanford, Parry, Mackenzie, Holbrooke...
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Post by: mikehopf on Friday 13 April 2012, 11:18
The Violin Concertos of Kalliwoda; Litolff and the other Goldmark ( the unrecorded concerto... not the other Goldmark)
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Post by: Christopher on Friday 13 April 2012, 12:13
Quote from: Alan Howe on Thursday 12 April 2012, 22:51
Of course, they may well be watching - so do keep the suggestions coming!

Do you have inside info on that?!  :)
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Post by: saxtromba on Friday 13 April 2012, 16:24
Cheating a little by counting opera albums as one CD.... :)

CD 1: Anton Rubinstein: The Merchant Kalashnikoff (I could do a whole long list of Rubinstein works, but I'll stick to just one for now).
CD2: Gabriel Von Wayditch: Buddha (or any other opera by this all-too-neglected figure).
CD 3 (okay, I'll be marginally realistic just this once): Paul Creston, Symphony #6.
Title: Re: If the recording companies were watching...
Post by: Alan Howe on Friday 13 April 2012, 17:30
We certainly know that the recording industry keeps an eye on this site, yes. Mum's the word, however...
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Post by: Jonathan on Friday 13 April 2012, 17:48
Ok,

CD1 - Liszt shorter orchestral works:

S.111, Zweite Mephisto Waltz (1881)
S.113, Salve Polonia (1863)
S.114, Künstlerfestzug zur Schillerfeier (1857)
S.115, Festmarsch zur Goethejubiläumsfeier [first/second version] (1849, 1857)
S.116, Festmarsch nach Motiven von E.H.z.S.-C.-G.
S.118, Ungarischer Marsch zur Krönungsfeier in Ofen-Pest (am 8 Juni 1867) (1870)
S.355 Vexilla regis prodeunt (1864)
S.356 Festvorspiel (1857)
S.357 Huldigungsmarsch [first & second versions] (1853, 1857)
S.358 Vom Fels zum Meer. Deutscher Siegesmarsch (1860)
S.361 Pio IX. Der Papsthymnus (ca. 1863)
S.362 Benedictus and Offertorium from the Hungarian Coronation Mass [from S11] (1875)
Bülow orchestrated Liszt - S.351 Mazurka Fantasie, Op. 13 (1865)
Cornelius orchestrated Liszt - S.352 Second Overture to The Barber of Baghdad [completed from Cornelius's sketches] (1877)
Schubert orchestrated Liszt - S.363 4 Marches [from Opp. 40, 54, 121] (1859–60)
Zarembski orchestrated Liszt - S.364, Danses galiciennes (1881)

CD2 - Alkan - any unrecorded piano works

For CD3 - I'll have to have a think and get back to you...
Title: Re: If the recording companies were watching...
Post by: shamokin88 on Friday 13 April 2012, 18:26
When I think of all the things we take for granted that weren't recorded when I started . . . .

I could go on. At length.

To spare us, though, I would like to see recorded the four string quartets by Jerzy Fitelberg.

Ditto the Hora Mystica Symphony by Charles Martin Loeffler.

And the two symphonies by Paul Juon, one finished, one not.

Title: Re: If the recording companies were watching...
Post by: Gareth Vaughan on Friday 13 April 2012, 18:53
QuoteDora Bright Piano Concerto
Rosalind Ellicott Piano Concerto
with orchestral fillers from either

I'd second this WHOLEHEARTEDLY but (a) does the Ellicott concerto still exist? and (b) I've noted before on this forum that the only two orchestral works by Dora Bright that are known to have survived are the 1st PC and the Variations on an Original Theme for piano & orchestra, both in MSS at the RAM. Lyrita were going to record the Dora Bright pieces before they disappeared from view and, although they have (thankfully) reappeared and released their back catalogue on CD there is no sign that the label is undertaking any new recordings.
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Post by: erato on Friday 13 April 2012, 19:18
1) Hilding Rosenbergs 5th symphony
2) Hilding Rosenbergs opera oratorio Joseph and his Brethren
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Post by: patmos.beje on Friday 13 April 2012, 22:00

Albion's Mackenzie disc and Christo's Stanley Bate disc definitely.

My suggestions would be:

CD1 - W H Bell - Orchestral Music & Vocal Orchestral Works

CD2 - Stanley Bate 2nd and 3rd Violin Concertos and Erik Chisholm Violin Concerto

CD3 - Mackenzie's The Rose of Sharon
Title: Re: If the recording companies were watching...
Post by: Jimfin on Friday 13 April 2012, 23:23
I quite agree with Shamokin. If we were writing this in 1980, the list would include an awful lot of things that are now recorded. I only wish they were programmed in concerts and on the radio more often. Why the BBC needs so many "pop" stations (and even has a branch of "pop", i.e., jazz on its "classical" station, I'll never know. Pandering to ignorance, I suppose
Title: Re: If the recording companies were watching...
Post by: Elroel on Saturday 14 April 2012, 00:23
The Symphonies of Johann Nepomuk David, especially the Nº 5!!
Title: Re: If the recording companies were watching...
Post by: Dundonnell on Saturday 14 April 2012, 01:03
Quote from: Elroel on Saturday 14 April 2012, 00:23
The Symphonies of Johann Nepomuk David, especially the Nº 5!!

CPO is recording these symphonies :)  Johannes Wildner conducted the ORFT SO in a recording of Symphonies Nos. 2 and 4 in September 2008 and Symphonies Nos. 1 and 6 in February and March 2011.

When they will be released however only CPO will know ::) ::)
Title: Re: If the recording companies were watching...
Post by: eschiss1 on Saturday 14 April 2012, 07:26
I almost feel like putting in a word for some jazz, but in another thread at another time, then (if even necessary).
Agreed- quite a lot of music on my personal 'list' of 2 decades ago has been recorded or even exists in multiple versions now, and some of it (Fuchs' 3rd symphony, e.g., which I saw in score less than a year coincidentally before the Thorofon recording was released) has shown up in concert at least a time or two (thanks, Leon Botstein.) (And trolling things like Concertzender Live and this and that else shows that there's always a little more being performed, etc. than one thought - and I still wish I had been visiting Manchester (I never have) when the Danel Quartet was playing Weinberg that year... well, I said that.)
Still looking for commercial recordings of , among other things- (actually, in most cases of these, I have no recordings except maybe MIDIs...)

*a good and listenable recording of Myaskovsky's violin sonata op.70.
*Golubev chamber works, especially the string quartets (e.g. nos. 8, 9, 18, 19.)
*Hessenberg chamber works (especially string quartets 3 in A and 4 in e.)
*More Stanford late chamber works (most are in manuscript, I know.) And a good commercial recording of No.3 in D minor.
*Substantial works by Emanuel Moór (symphonies, string quartets, etc.)
*Hegar concertos (the string quartet @IMSLP - if I may mention - sounds good and surprising, too.)
*Manuscript works by Frédéric Louis Ritter (concertos, symphonies, ...)
*Likewise those by David Stanley Smith (actually, his quartets, symphonies, sonatas generally...)
*Scontrino's quartets!

That'll do for a very start...
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Post by: alberto on Saturday 14 April 2012, 09:06
Cd 1
Alfredo Casella : War pages, 5 pieces for orchestra
Gian Francesco Malipiero : "Danze e Canzoni" for. orch. (1912)
                                          "Per una favola cavalleresca", for. orch. (1914)
Ildebrando Pizzetti: "Ouverture per una farsa tragica", for orch. (1911)

Cd 2
Antonio Bazzini: "Francesca da Rimini" , symphonic poem
Luigi Mancinelli: "Scene Veneziane", for orch.

Cd3:
Giovanni Sgambati : "Epitalamio Sinfonico " (or "Sinfonia epitalamia", n.3)
Leone Sinigaglia : "Piemonte", suite for orch.
                             "Danza piemontese" op.31 n.2
Title: Re: If the recording companies were watching...
Post by: britishcomposer on Saturday 14 April 2012, 12:17
Quote from: shamokin88 on Friday 13 April 2012, 18:26
To spare us, though, I would like to see recorded the four string quartets by Jerzy Fitelberg.

Edward, do you have non-commercial recordings of the Fitelberg Quartets? If not I would be glad to upload a performance of the 2nd Quartet.
Title: Re: If the recording companies were watching...
Post by: Alan Howe on Saturday 14 April 2012, 13:20
May I respectfully ask contributors not to post lists, but three CDs' worth of music - much more helpful to any casual visitor to this site...
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Post by: Dundonnell on Saturday 14 April 2012, 15:13
Quote from: Alan Howe on Saturday 14 April 2012, 13:20
May I respectfully ask contributors not to post lists, but three CDs' worth of music - much more helpful to any casual visitor to this site...

The very reason why I found this an impossible task ;D  (I am still trying to whittle it down to three ;D)
Title: Re: If the recording companies were watching...
Post by: suffolkcoastal on Saturday 14 April 2012, 15:44
Putting things on to 3cds isn't easy as there is of course a limit of 80minutes and certain works won't always fit on together, and thereby you end up excluding works you would want to include in favour of ones further down you list in order to fill a cd. I'm afraid 3 is impossible 300 might be just within my limits, as there is just so much worthwhile music that needs recording before is disappears altogether.
Title: Re: If the recording companies were watching...
Post by: Alan Howe on Saturday 14 April 2012, 18:10
...which is why I set the parameters of the thread as I did - so that contributors would have to think about the practicalities of constructing three suitable CD programmes. After all, anyone can make a list...
Title: Re: If the recording companies were watching...
Post by: suffolkcoastal on Saturday 14 April 2012, 18:19
... however it is better to keep to one composer per cd, anyway it is an impossible exercise for me, there is far too much music I care about that has never been commercially recorded. However if I ever win enough on the lottery then I would want to sponsor a number of recordings.
Title: Re: If the recording companies were watching...
Post by: Alan Howe on Saturday 14 April 2012, 19:09
Where would you start?
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Post by: Rob H on Saturday 14 April 2012, 20:44
CD1 Emanuel Moor - However many of the 4 Piano Concertos would fit on a disc (could it be a two CD set?)
CD2 Riccardo Pick-Mangiagalli - The Piano concertante works (Sortileggi, the concertos)
CD3 Abram Chasins - The 2 Piano Concertos

Any list of mine would include unplayed/unrecorded piano concertos - thankfully we are lucky to live in an age where the unrecorded list is being whittled down by Hyperion, Dutton and others.
Rob
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Post by: Mark Thomas on Saturday 14 April 2012, 20:52
My choices would all be German romantics:

CD1: Friedrich Gernsheim: Violin Concertos Nos.1& 2.
CD2: August Klughardt: Symphonies Nos.4 & 5.
CD3: Julius Ottoman Grimm: Symphony & Albert Dietrich: Normannenfahrt

A difficult exercise this, but the easy choices are all orchestral. Chamber music choices would also be German romantics but my triple-CD opera choice would undoubtedly be French - one of Halevy's grand operas in all probability.
Title: Re: If the recording companies were watching...
Post by: BerlinExpat on Saturday 14 April 2012, 21:17
I second the plea for more pre-Grimes British operas but please add a complete version (all the allowed 3 CDs if necessary) of Holst's Sita with all its horrid (so we are told) Wagnerianisms so we can judge for ourselves. So far we have only had tantalizing excerpts!
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Post by: markniew on Saturday 14 April 2012, 22:19
I limit myself only to Polish music:
1. Maliszewski, Żeleński - Piano Concertos
2. Gablenz - Piano Concerto, symphonic poems,
3. Maklakiewicz, Malawski - symphonies

and an extra CD 
4. Zarębski, Tausig - Piano concertos - there are information that they did compose ctos but the pieces were lost somewhere
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Post by: Alan Howe on Saturday 14 April 2012, 23:13
CD2: Gernsheim Violin Concertos 1 & 2
CD (set) 3: Wilhelm Berger Symphonies 1 & 2 (two CDs for the price of one)
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Post by: thalbergmad on Saturday 14 April 2012, 23:23
Quote from: Peter1953 on Thursday 12 April 2012, 21:56
CD 1
Dutch Romantic Piano Concertos
Carl A. Smulders (1863-1934)
Piano Concerto in A minor

That wonderful work already exists as a commercial recording.

My 3 would be:

CD1 - American Piano Concertos:
Boise - Piano Concerto in G
Conrath - Piano Concerto in B flat major

CD2 - British Piano Concertos:
Coles - Piano Concerto in F# Minor
Borowski - Piano Concerto in D
Hopekirk - Concertstuck in D

CD3 - German Piano Concertos
Scholz - Piano Concerto Op.57
Nikish - Concerto pour Piano et Orchestra

Thal
Title: Re: If the recording companies were watching...
Post by: jerfilm on Saturday 14 April 2012, 23:44
Ouuuuu - I second Mark and Alan's Gernsheim.  Buy 'em in an instant....

Jerry
Title: Re: If the recording companies were watching...
Post by: eschiss1 on Sunday 15 April 2012, 04:43
missed the first post of the thread, apologies.
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Post by: X. Trapnel on Sunday 15 April 2012, 04:58
cd 1: Loeffler, Evocation, A Pagan Poem; Taylor, Peter Ibbetson Suite and Portrait of a Lady
cd 2: William Baines, Symphony
cd 3: Vittorio Giannini, Symphonies 1, 2, 5
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Post by: eschiss1 on Sunday 15 April 2012, 06:02
Hrm. For the first 2 CDs- will get back to you later today on the third (estimated times based on existing non-commercial recordings or MIDIs- my own or others' - in most cases. The recordings of the Golubev works not wholly complete, so "estimated" several times over.)

CD 1- first 53-odd minutes: Lachner symphony 6.
+ 22 minutes: first two movements (Allegretto moderato (!) appassionato and Scherzo: Grazioso e vivace) from Scontrino's string quartet in G minor. (odd coupling unless arr. for orchestra or string orchestra, admittedly)

CD 2- Adagio and Allegro vivo from the Scontrino quartet (ca.19 minutes)
Myaskovsky violin sonata (ca.22 minutes)
Golubev Quartet 19 (1977) (ca.20 minutes?)
" Piano Sonata No. 6 in Homage to Myaskovsky Op.54 (1965) (ca.15 minutes?)



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Post by: Peter1953 on Sunday 15 April 2012, 06:37
Quote from: thalbergmad on Saturday 14 April 2012, 23:23
Quote from: Peter1953 on Thursday 12 April 2012, 21:56
CD 1
Dutch Romantic Piano Concertos
Carl A. Smulders (1863-1934)
Piano Concerto in A minor

That wonderful work already exists as a commercial recording.

I've read that somewhere, Thal, but so far I have never seen a copy. I only know Smulders PC from youtube. So I think a brand new recording, coupled with the Brandts Buys, would bring me into an incredible excitement.

CD 3 (double disc)
Cornelis Dopper (1870-1939)
Symphony No. 1 "Diana"
Symphony No.2 "Scottish"
Symphony No. 5 "Sinfonia Epica"
Cello Concerto
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Post by: eschiss1 on Sunday 15 April 2012, 06:49
Piano concertos in the Netherlands, NM Classics, 2 CD set (http://www.worldcat.org/title/piano-concertos-in-the-netherlands/oclc/39077872), contains a 23-minute recording of the Smulders (hopefully Smuldering- be quiet, Eric! )
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Post by: Holger on Sunday 15 April 2012, 07:51
After some considerations, here are my proposals:

Günter Kochan (1930–2009)
Symphony No. 6 (2003–06)
Concerto for Orchestra No. 2 (1988–90)
"Herbstbilder" (Autumn Pictures), Metamorphoses for 28 Solo Strings (1990/91)

Boris Tishchenko (1939–2010)
Symphony No. 2 Op. 28 "Marina" for Chorus and Orchestra (1964)
Symphony No. 4, Op. 61 (1974)
(2 CD set, if possible)

Peter Racine Fricker (1920–1990)
Symphony No. 4, Op. 43 (1964/65)
Symphony No. 5 Op. 74 for Organ and Orchestra (1975/76)
"Litany" for Double String Orchestra Op. 26 (1955)
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Post by: Peter1953 on Sunday 15 April 2012, 08:07
Thanks, Eric. I already found a copy. Dat wordt smullen!!  ;D
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Post by: chill319 on Wednesday 18 April 2012, 00:32
CD 1: Wilhelm Berger, Symphony 2 in B minor, op. 80; Variations and Fugue in F minor for orchestra, op. 97.

CD 2: Frederick Converse: Symphony 2 in C minor (1919); Symphony 3 in E minor (1921).

CD 3: Arthur Shepherd: Symphony 1 ("Horizons") (1927); Symphony 2 (1938).

Title: Re: If the recording companies were watching...
Post by: eschiss1 on Friday 08 June 2012, 00:40
BTW as to Schelling's violin concerto, I see that the Free Library of Philadelphia has the parts. This gives it a leg up (in principle anyway) on pieces that one knows about but can't locate :)

(The Fleischer collection of orchestral parts is so large that Albany has based a recording series off of it- an excellent notion. I wonder if that's still in progress... Actually, I've said that before and should look up the answer from then, I think...! )
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Post by: fyrexia on Wednesday 13 June 2012, 23:02
In my case..

Vladislav Agafonnikov -
Piano Concerto
12 Preludes
Piano Sonata

Th. Akimenko
Works for Piano Solo

Piano Sonatas by Revol Bunin, Alexi Matchavariani and Genrikh Vagner

Tony

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Post by: Gareth Vaughan on Wednesday 13 June 2012, 23:09

(The Fleischer collection of orchestral parts is so large that Albany has based a recording series off of it- an excellent notion.


If they did, there'd be enough UNSUNG (and hitherto unrecorded) music there to keep Albany busy for the next 20-30 years. It is the largest collection of orchestral music in the world  - and thank GOD for old man Fleisher, I say, who also left enough money to run the collection, add to it and make available orchestral parts at extremely reasonable rental prices.
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Post by: Mark Thomas on Wednesday 13 June 2012, 23:16
Amen to that. The catalogue is even a good source of information just by itself!
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Post by: BFerrell on Wednesday 13 June 2012, 23:42
Boris Tishchenko (1939–2010)
Symphony No. 2 Op. 28 "Marina" for Chorus and Orchestra (1964)

This has just been released by Northern Flowers.
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Post by: eschiss1 on Thursday 14 June 2012, 04:05
Last I checked, they were doing so, though I don't know if the Albany series yet continues. Past installments include
Volume 2: "The American Clarinet" (released 2002)
Volume 3: Works by Karl Boelter (released 2003)
Volume 4: 2 symphonies by John Biggs (*1932?) ; (released 2004)
Volume 5: 3 works by Serly Tibor (released 2006)

(I think I posted a thread about the series back in November- yes, I see it.)

This (http://kilesmith.com/2011/09/05/the-top-ten-reasons-im-leaving-the-fleisher-collection/) on the other flipper, is distressing and relates.
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Post by: Holger on Thursday 14 June 2012, 06:00
Quote from: Tapiola on Wednesday 13 June 2012, 23:42
Boris Tishchenko (1939–2010)
Symphony No. 2 Op. 28 "Marina" for Chorus and Orchestra (1964)

This has just been released by Northern Flowers.

This is great, one of my next buys for sure! ;D
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Post by: Dundonnell on Thursday 14 June 2012, 17:43
Quote from: Holger on Thursday 14 June 2012, 06:00
Quote from: Tapiola on Wednesday 13 June 2012, 23:42
Boris Tishchenko (1939–2010)
Symphony No. 2 Op. 28 "Marina" for Chorus and Orchestra (1964)

This has just been released by Northern Flowers.

This is great, one of my next buys for sure! ;D

Can you confirm this ???  I cannot find it on the Northern Flowers website.
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Post by: eschiss1 on Thursday 14 June 2012, 18:01
It's already at iTunes - symphonies 1 and 2 (http://itunes.apple.com/us/album/tishchenko-symphonies-nos./id434497783).
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Post by: Dundonnell on Thursday 14 June 2012, 18:08
Well....yes and no ::)

What is on I Tunes is a picture of the Northern Flowers release of Tishchenko's Dante Symphonies Nos. 1 and 2-which are quite different works ::)
The timings given on I Tunes are also those for the Dante symphonies.

....so....no :(
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Post by: hemmesjo on Friday 15 June 2012, 02:00
I found it along with the listing for the first of five volumes of Tishchenko's piano music.  And a two disc set of Lyadov's piano music.

BTW two of the pieces on the Tishchenko piano disc are previously issued but on a hard to get CD.

Here's the link:
http://www.nflowers.ru/page.php?page=23&lang=en
Title: Re: If the recording companies were watching...
Post by: Dundonnell on Friday 15 June 2012, 02:04
Excellent :)

It is very well-hidden on the site ::)   Many thanks for finding it ;D ;D
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Post by: TerraEpon on Friday 15 June 2012, 06:37
Quote from: hemmesjo on Friday 15 June 2012, 02:00
And a two disc set of Lyadov's piano music.

If you didn't know, Brilliant issued a five disc set with all of it.
Title: Re: If the recording companies were watching...
Post by: musiclover on Friday 29 June 2012, 04:42
How about more Arnell?

Sections (2nd Piano Concerto)
Landscapes & Figures
The War God

Amazing to think he would have been top of my list with just about anything, but now so much of it has been done you bump into recordings of his music everywhere!
Title: Re: If the recording companies were watching...
Post by: Nervous Gentleman on Sunday 08 July 2012, 18:14
Anton Rubinstein's many unrecorded and unperformed operas would be a first choice for me.
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Post by: eschiss1 on Sunday 08 July 2012, 18:20
I hope his Dmitri Donskoi (beyond the overture) is merely misplaced and will be found, and not lost/destroyed. And I agree as to the rest.
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Post by: mbhaub on Sunday 08 July 2012, 18:32
I wouldn't mind a new set of complete symphonies, this time with a well-rehearsed, first-class orchestra and a highly sympathetic, even enthusiastic, conductor, and sacd sound. When pigs fly...
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Post by: FBerwald on Sunday 08 July 2012, 20:31
I know it's been done before [quite beautifully], but I wouldn't mind another version of the Kamenny-Ostrov set.
Title: Re: If the recording companies were watching...
Post by: Karl.Miller on Wednesday 19 February 2014, 21:42
Someone mentioned the music of EB Hill...the 3 Concerted works for Piano and Orchestra, and the 4th Symphony have been recorded by the Austin Texas Symphony and will be released this year.

Karl
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Post by: Gareth Vaughan on Wednesday 19 February 2014, 22:50
Exciting news, Karl. Do you know which label?
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Post by: LateRomantic75 on Wednesday 19 February 2014, 23:51
That is indeed exciting news, Karl! I've loved what little I've heard of EB Hill's beautiful, impressionistic music.
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Post by: jerfilm on Wednesday 19 February 2014, 23:56
that is great news.  Thanks for passing that on, Karl.....

Jerry
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Post by: alberto on Thursday 20 February 2014, 10:17
Reading again this thread, I see that since april 2012 I got from Naxos Casella "War Pages" (a work today I would deem, for its idiom, no longer within the forum remit) and Mancinelli "Scene Veneziane". And I may hope to get (again from Naxos) Sgambati "Epitalamio Sinfonico".And indeed I thought not to be realistic.
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Post by: FBerwald on Thursday 20 February 2014, 11:42
Long overdue :( .... Joseph Marx - Eine Herbstsymphonie. Hyperion.... r u listening :)
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Post by: Alan Howe on Thursday 20 February 2014, 17:25
The Marx needs a really great orchestra to do it justice - and certainly one of a decent size.
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Post by: LateRomantic75 on Thursday 20 February 2014, 23:00
I, too, long for a spectacular CD recording of the Herbstsymphonie with a world-class orchestra and sympathetic conductor. However, I would expect CPO, not Hyperion, to be the label to do the job. In fact, I've heard isolated rumors that CPO does indeed have this masterwork in the pipeline...
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Post by: Alan Howe on Thursday 20 February 2014, 23:16
This is the report that indicated cpo were going to do the Herbstsymphonie:

In September 2007, Stefan Esser (Vice President of the Joseph Marx Society) met the Finnish conductor Ari Rasilainen who is mainly working in Germany. A few months earlier, Mr. Rasilainen already had received a mail presenting the Herbstsymphonie. Mr. Rasilainen was extremely enthusiastic when he saw the score and could easily persuade Mr. Schmilgun (cpo) of doing a studio recording of this work in conjunction with previous live concerts.
http://www.joseph-marx.org/en/current.html#cpo (http://www.joseph-marx.org/en/current.html#cpo)

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Post by: LateRomantic75 on Friday 21 February 2014, 00:19
Thanks for confirming those "rumors", Alan. Rasilainen is a superb conductor and I'm sure he could work wonders with Marx's dazzling kaleidoscope of a work :)
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Post by: Alan Howe on Friday 21 February 2014, 01:11
Trouble is, there's been no news since - and no live concert(s) preceding a recording.
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Post by: LateRomantic75 on Friday 21 February 2014, 01:50
On a different note, I really hope some enterprising record label brings out the four Napravnik symphonies in the near future. I was deeply impressed by his Concerto symphonique and Fantasy on Russian Themes (featured in Hyperion's RPC series), which are big-boned, rather forward-looking works. There's also a fantastic Violin Sonata of his on YouTube. The two-piano score to Napravnik's Third (The Demon) is on IMSLP, so that's a start!
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Post by: eschiss1 on Friday 21 February 2014, 13:47
I seem to recall that Napravnik's 3rd symphony and some of his chamber music may have been recorded by Cesky Rozhlas, but commercial release is another matter. I'd like to hear the string quartets...
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Post by: LateRomantic75 on Saturday 22 February 2014, 01:51
That's intriguing, Eric! Another composer who I believe is worthy of a recorded edition is Antonio Scontrino (1850-1922), whose role in the revival of instrumental music in Italy is largely forgotten today. He composed two symphonies, concertos for piano, double bass, and bassoon and other orchestral works, five string quartets, as well as other compositions. Now, granted, I haven't heard much of his music at all-just a very attractive (yet not the least bit slight) minuet from a String Quartet in A minor which Steve's Bedroom Band uploaded to IMSLP. The only other morsel of his music that seems to be available is the first movement of his Bassoon (!) Concerto in piano reduction on YT (which I haven't yet heard). I've glanced over the music of his held at IMSLP (including the full score of the mouth-watering Sinfonia marinesca), and I believe it holds great promise. Naxos seems to be taking much interest in the Italians these days; perhaps we should put Scontrino on their radar? :)
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Post by: eschiss1 on Saturday 22 February 2014, 03:25
SBN-OPAC lists quite a few more works by Scontrino than I thought existed, btw. I should really try to draw up a bit of a worklist, or look for a book about him, or both. ... Anyway:

If you can stand MIDIs, a fellow sent me some MIDIs (I can post one of two links.. though yes, on IMSLP now I think) of Scontrino's 1900-or-so G minor string quartet which I hosted over on my own website (and have linked over to the IMSLP page of the work, absent anything better and all that. It seems quite a good piece.  I too wonder what Scontrino's other works sound like. I've heard part of a string quartet by Pappalardo, another of those composers from that period with a rare interest in chamber music (though he too wrote some operatic and other major vocal music as I recall- so did Scontrino, at least three operas in the latter's case) - anyhow what I've heard of (Salvatore) Pappalardo's dramatic string quartet (no.6 in C minor) was promising, but it could use an edition (a careful and good and useable one all three); the manuscript is quite a difficult read for more reasons than "usual" (I tried to start preparing a typeset but dropped the project, erm, ... erm.well, temporarily, anyway, I hope.)

Anyway. At the back of my mind there's some itch telling me "there's someone or something you want to recommend even more than any of this, but you keep forgetting" - though truth be told, the recommendations (or just-- things I really wanted to hear... :D ) I have made in the past and mentioned in similar threads back in Usenet days decades ago... (Dohnanyi's symphonies, Fuchs string quartets, e.g.) have actually been, to my pleasure and also surprise, largely been filled or (Jadassohn symphonies e.g.) seem to be on the way. So... optimistic :)... (... how could I not be optimistic when even Miecz. Weinberg's quartets- yes, apologies, outside the forum, but in general "obscurity" surely an excellent example (one I know somewhat well, in part, I guess) - are recorded in full _and_ with some duplications- and his other works many of them in the process of so being- by way of example? ...)
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Post by: LateRomantic75 on Saturday 22 February 2014, 03:34
Pappalardo...I've heard his name in passing. Looks like IMSLP holds a good bit of his sizeable chamber output. Thanks for bringing his name back to my attention! You are absolutely right that we have checked so much off our wish lists over the past couple years due to the enterprising recording projects of labels such as Naxos, CPO, Dutton, and others. It sounds so greedy to badger our good friends in charge of such record companies to record everything on our ever-dwindling wish lists, but that's our job, isn't it? ;)
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Post by: Hilleries on Saturday 22 February 2014, 05:18
Adding to the list, I'd have to honour my username and say that a complete survey of Hiller's symphonies is waaaay overdue. Should fill 3 cds easily.
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Post by: eschiss1 on Saturday 22 February 2014, 09:49
Hopefully all the Hiller symphonies all still survive, but it does seem quite a few - at least 4 of the 8 or 9 - do (and the Berlin libraries and others have some other works from his earlier years- which the earlier symphonies are- that could also go there, e.g. orchestral overtures, that seem well-done. In the meanwhile I think those chamber works of his performed a few years back may be already scheduled for commercial recording- I hope so.)
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Post by: musiclover on Saturday 22 February 2014, 21:12
Can somebody push the Arnold Cooke Symphonies in Martin Yates' direction. After what he did for Richard Arnell I am sure they would be up his street?
If anyone has contacts with him.
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Post by: Alan Howe on Sunday 23 February 2014, 00:47
Cooke's music would be well worth recording - but it's beyond our remit here, sorry.