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The Music => Recordings & Broadcasts => Topic started by: Alan Howe on Monday 11 May 2009, 18:39

Title: Rufinatscha Piano Concerto
Post by: Alan Howe on Monday 11 May 2009, 18:39
I can now confirm that Rufinatscha's Piano Concerto in G minor of 1850, until now only available in a recording of the version for two pianos, will be recorded in Stams, Austria in mid-July. The performers will be:

Michael Schöch (instrument: Hammerflügel by Conrad Graf, Vienna, ca. 1838, from the Music Collection of the Tiroler Landesmuseum, Ferdinandeum, Innsbruck)
Orchester der Akademie St. Blasius
Karlheinz Siessl (conductor)

Judging by other recordings made in July or August of previous years, this recording should be out around Christmas time. Watch this space!
Title: Re: Rufinatscha Piano Concerto
Post by: Ilja on Monday 11 May 2009, 19:43
I was wondering whether anyone is planning to visit the concert in Stams this July; since I'm in the vicinity (well, sort of) I think I may.
Title: Re: Rufinatscha Piano Concerto
Post by: Mark Thomas on Tuesday 12 May 2009, 15:02
Great news about the recording, Alan. Coincidentally, Ilja, I will be in that part of Austria this summer but not until August I'm afraid. Looks like you'll have to hold up the "Hello, Mum!" banner for all of us...
Title: Re: Rufinatscha Piano Concerto
Post by: Ilja on Tuesday 12 May 2009, 18:10
Quote from: Mark Thomas on Tuesday 12 May 2009, 15:02
Great news about the recording, Alan. Coincidentally, Ilja, I will be in that part of Austria this summer but not until August I'm afraid. Looks like you'll have to hold up the "Hello, Mum!" banner for all of us...

And I will! (Making a mental note not to have the rattle spoil the recording)
Title: Re: Rufinatscha Piano Concerto
Post by: Gareth Vaughan on Wednesday 13 May 2009, 23:03
Fascinating news, Alan. Do you know what other works are being performed that season?
Title: Re: Rufinatscha Piano Concerto
Post by: Alan Howe on Thursday 14 May 2009, 08:12
By Rufinatscha:

These are the details, Gareth:

1. Ouverture dramatique, Wien 1878
2. Konzert für Klavier und Orchester, g-Moll, Wien um 1850 (Allegro - Adagio ma non troppo - Allegro con brio)
3. Ouvertüre zu Die Braut von Messina
(Drama von Friedrich Schiller, 1803), Wien 1850

Schumann's PC is also on the programme...
Title: Re: Rufinatscha Piano Concerto
Post by: Gareth Vaughan on Thursday 14 May 2009, 12:59
Thanks very much, Alan. I suppose they'll record the overtures with the PC. There wouldn't be much advantage (at least, not to us) in yet another recording of the Schumann.
Title: Re: Rufinatscha Piano Concerto
Post by: Mark Thomas on Thursday 14 May 2009, 16:30
The Rufinatscha pieces are a mouth-watering prospect,  Alan. I do hope that you'll give us report on them, Ilja.
Title: Re: Rufinatscha Piano Concerto
Post by: Alan Howe on Thursday 14 May 2009, 17:25
The programme for the summer's concerts in Stams is available here...

http://www.musikland-tirol.at/downloads/konzertprogramm2009a5.pdf (http://www.musikland-tirol.at/downloads/konzertprogramm2009a5.pdf)



Title: Re: Rufinatscha Piano Concerto
Post by: Peter1953 on Wednesday 10 June 2009, 14:15
Today the post coach from Innsbruck arrived, bringing my Rufinatscha disc. As expected, even in the version for two pianos this is music full of delightful tunes.

Alan's news that the PC will be recorded as a Concerto for Piano and Orchestra is very exciting. I think Santa Claus knows exactly what all Raffians wish for a Christmas present..!  ;D
Title: Re: Rufinatscha Piano Concerto
Post by: Peter1953 on Saturday 18 July 2009, 21:26
Today I've listened again to the version for two pianos. What a thrilling listening experience the original concerto for piano and orchestra shall be. Especially the first movement has an utterly romantic grandeur.

Written in 1850, I wonder if Rufinatscha's masterpiece is perhaps the most delightful piano concerto composed between those of Schumann (1845) and Brahms's 1st (1858). (I know, I know, it's a matter of personal taste).
If so, does Rufinatscha have competitors? Most certainly. Not from Henselt, because his magnum opus was written in 1844, but how about Kullak (1850) and Rubinstein's nos. 1 (1850), 2 (1851) or 3 (1854)? Kullak's concerto is simply fantastic, although it is more a virtuoso showpiece (especially in the first movement). But Rubinstein's 3rd...or Rufinatscha...? Which one? Let's wait for the release of the original concerto. Or does anybody already has an opinion?
Title: Re: Rufinatscha Piano Concerto
Post by: JimL on Saturday 18 July 2009, 21:34
Well, how far are you willing to extend the competition?  Liszt 1 (1857)?  Or anything between the Schumann and 1850 (Nothing of which comes immediately to mind)?  You know, for all we complain about the dearth of 19th Century symphonies in the repertory, the supply of period concertos has been even more threadbare for far too long. 
Title: Re: Rufinatscha Piano Concerto
Post by: Peter1953 on Saturday 18 July 2009, 23:37
No Jim, it's not my intention to sum up – if possible – all the piano concertos written between 1845 and 1858. I'm talking about the best of the best. Sung and unsung. Not the 13 out of a dozen, so to speak. Yes, the Liszt 1 belongs definitely to the top. Brilliant piano writing, and quite progressive for 1857. But I don't like it.
For me Rufinatscha's concerto has only two serious competitors in the era between the Schumann and Brahms 1, and these are the Kullak and Rubinstein 3. But Kullak is more a showpiece, while Rufinatscha is both brilliant and profound. That leaves only one competitor as far as I'm concerned.  ;)
Title: Re: Rufinatscha Piano Concerto
Post by: Ilja on Monday 20 July 2009, 10:29
In Dutch, we have this joke:
"Do you know the joke of the man who went to Rotterdam?"
"No"
"He didn't go"

The same for me and Stams, I'm afraid. I had coupled a visit with my trip to Munich on the 11th, but due to a train outage near the German-Austrian border I never made it past lake Constance. So, regrettably, no report from me on the Rufinatscha concerto.

Anyone else who DID make it?
Title: Re: Rufinatscha Piano Concerto
Post by: Ilja on Monday 20 July 2009, 10:33
Quote from: JimL on Saturday 18 July 2009, 21:34You know, for all we complain about the dearth of 19th Century symphonies in the repertory, the supply of period concertos has been even more threadbare for far too long.

If you're talking about the concert hall, yes. But with Vox, Danacord, Naxos and particularly Hyperion recording their share of unsung piano concertos, I don't think we may complain too much. There's still enough valuable material left to be recorded, of course, since it sometimes seems everyone even vaguely interested in music wrote one between 1820 and 1900.
Title: Re: Rufinatscha Piano Concerto
Post by: Alan Howe on Monday 20 July 2009, 21:49
As soon as I get a sniff of the recording which will have been made at Stams, I'll let you all know...