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The Music => Recordings & Broadcasts => Topic started by: Alan Howe on Tuesday 08 January 2013, 17:23

Title: d'Erlanger Concerto Symphonique
Post by: Alan Howe on Tuesday 08 January 2013, 17:23
...is to be broadcast on BBC Radio 3 on Tuesday 15th January at 16.00. The performers are Victor Sangiorgio (piano) with the BBC Concert Orchestra under Johannes Wildner. Looks like a probable future Dutton release to me (Sangiorgio recorded the Godard PCs for them).
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Post by: jerfilm on Tuesday 08 January 2013, 23:52
Will someone be recording this, just in case Dutton doesn't??

J
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Post by: eschiss1 on Wednesday 09 January 2013, 01:54
I like this news. Thank you. :)
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Post by: Mark Thomas on Wednesday 09 January 2013, 07:54
I hope to record it, Jerry.
Title: Re: d'Erlanger Concerto Symphonique
Post by: JimL on Wednesday 09 January 2013, 16:58
I hope they provide the movement information on the broadcast!
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Post by: Mark Thomas on Wednesday 09 January 2013, 17:07
Radio 3 announcers rarely do.
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Post by: eschiss1 on Wednesday 09 January 2013, 18:49
One of the branches of the British Library (St. Pancras) has the 2nd edition (1925?) of the Schott reduced score (first pub.1921) (Concerto symphonique pour piano et orchestra. (La partie d'orchestre réduite pour un second piano) ... Seconde édition. [Score.]) (The Library of Congress, RAM (1956? might be 3rd edition...), and U. Colorado Boulder also have copies of one or another version of this, I think.) While it may cost a lot to get a photocopy made, maybe there's some other solution that would result in one's having the desired information (movement headers...) ?
Title: Re: d'Erlanger Concerto Symphonique
Post by: thalbergmad on Wednesday 09 January 2013, 20:50
Quote from: eschiss1 on Wednesday 09 January 2013, 18:49
While it may cost a lot to get a photocopy made, maybe there's some other solution that would result in one's having the desired information (movement headers...) ?

Sometimes it is worth asking me as in my loft I have 62 crisp boxes full of piano concerto scores and the d'Erlanger is in my "E" box. Movements are:

I - Maestoso
II - Scherzo
III - Moderato assai
IV - Moderato ma appassionato

Concertingly,

Thal

Title: Re: d'Erlanger Concerto Symphonique
Post by: JimL on Wednesday 09 January 2013, 21:00
Thanks!  Does the Scherzo have a tempo indication?
Title: Re: d'Erlanger Concerto Symphonique
Post by: thalbergmad on Wednesday 09 January 2013, 21:17
It is Marcato e staccato.

Thal
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Post by: thalbergmad on Tuesday 15 January 2013, 16:32
A pleasant half hour listening to this.

Powerful, dramatic, melodic and 100% tonal. Perhaps not the highest of craft, but well worth a 2nd listen.

Looking forward to a commercial release.

Thal
Title: Re: d'Erlanger Concerto Symphonique
Post by: Mark Thomas on Tuesday 15 January 2013, 17:34
I agree, a very engaging piece, rather strongly influenced by Rachmaninov, but none the worse for that. If you liked his Violin Concerto, then you'll love this too. I have now uploaded it to the Downloads board here (http://www.unsungcomposers.com/forum/index.php/topic,4052.0.html).

Thal, I have had to guess where the third/fourth movement break is as they are played attacca. Could you check if my guess is correct, please, and let me know if it isn't?  Ta.
Title: Re: d'Erlanger Concerto Symphonique
Post by: JimL on Tuesday 15 January 2013, 18:44
Pray, what key is it in?
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Post by: Mark Thomas on Tuesday 15 January 2013, 19:28
If I knew, I'd have included it in my post. Perhaps Thal can help.
Title: Re: d'Erlanger Concerto Symphonique
Post by: Richard Moss on Tuesday 15 January 2013, 20:28
Mark,

Many tks for the impressive 'speed of upload' service.  Look forward  to downloading/listening tomorrow.

Best wishes

Richard
Title: Re: d'Erlanger Concerto Symphonique
Post by: thalbergmad on Tuesday 15 January 2013, 21:14
Quote from: JimL on Tuesday 15 January 2013, 18:44
Pray, what key is it in?

Starts in g minor and ends in g major.

Thal
Title: Re: d'Erlanger Concerto Symphonique
Post by: thalbergmad on Tuesday 15 January 2013, 21:37
Quote from: Mark Thomas on Tuesday 15 January 2013, 17:34

Thal, I have had to guess where the third/fourth movement break is as they are played attacca. Could you check if my guess is correct, please, and let me know if it isn't?  Ta.

Just a couple of seconds out as you have the last bar of the 3rd movement in the 4th, but to change it as per the score would lessen the listening experience.

Thal
Title: Re: d'Erlanger Concerto Symphonique
Post by: Mark Thomas on Tuesday 15 January 2013, 22:08
Thanks, Thal. Not a bad guess then - I'll leave well alone. I've amended the listing to show that the work is in G minor.
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Post by: jerfilm on Wednesday 16 January 2013, 15:44
Repeated listenings have made this more and more of a "hit" with me.   

I think you Brits have commented about this repeatedly, but I was struck at how blase the announcer was about the whole thing.  No excitement about 'this being the first performance of d'Erlanger's concerto since 19??" or anything of that nature.  Good thing I'm not the host - the intro would probably take almost as long as the work itself...... ::) ::) ::)

Jerry
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Post by: thalbergmad on Wednesday 16 January 2013, 16:59
They are a little reserved on Radio 3. Perhaps they should borrow that chap who announces darts matches:

"Arrrre youuuuu readddyyyy. Letsss plllayyyy d'Erlangerrrrrrrrr"

As with you, a 2nd & 3rd listening have increased my appreciation. Hopefully a work that will not be "dropped".

Thal