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The Music => Composers & Music => Topic started by: M. Henriksen on Friday 22 February 2013, 16:34

Title: Help/advice needed
Post by: M. Henriksen on Friday 22 February 2013, 16:34
Sorry for posting this here, didn't really know where to put it. But the forum is a place to go for some advice.. I'm trying to organize my music collection, and the language I'm using is English. I'm not.
I need some help clarifying the difference in use of the terms chorus and choir.
What's the difference? A work for chorus and orchestra, or choir and orchestra? Is it a men's choir/chorus or male choir/chorus, female choir/chorus or women's chorus/choir? Help needed!

And: Is it common to use capital letters in work titles? F. ex The Isle of the Dead instead of The isle of the dead?


Morten
Title: Re: Help/advice needed
Post by: JimL on Friday 22 February 2013, 16:41
Choir is more of a reference to a liturgical musical vocal group.  Chorus is more of a concert term.  So, in church, the pastor "preaches to the choir".  ;)
Title: Re: Help/advice needed
Post by: eschiss1 on Friday 22 February 2013, 16:53
Hrm. Though one does see the use "woodwind choir" and especially "brass choir" (though maybe there's a liturgical analogy made there!...) etc. rather often. Language...!
Title: Re: Help/advice needed
Post by: Alan Howe on Friday 22 February 2013, 17:31
1. Choir/Chorus are more or less interchangeable as terms used in the names of vocal groups. The problem is that certain usages only occur in particular contexts. Thus, a school has a choir; but, in a musical put on in a school, if one does not have a solo part, one is singing in the chorus!!
2. As for work titles, "The Isle of the Dead" is correct. Here is a helpful guide:
http://alasir.com/motley/title_capitalisation/ (http://alasir.com/motley/title_capitalisation/)
Title: Re: Help/advice needed
Post by: TerraEpon on Friday 22 February 2013, 18:53
Personally I tend to always go with chorus when talking about the instrumentation, and I've found that seems to be generally the rule or others as well.
Title: Re: Help/advice needed
Post by: jerfilm on Friday 22 February 2013, 19:29
Good ol' english.  About as idiomatic as a language can be.   If you don't believe it, visit the UK,then the USA and Canada, then hop down to New Zealand and Australia......for starts.  If that doesn't convince you, take in india, too.

Here's what a dictionary here in the colonies sez about choirs: 

"An organized company of singers, especially one performing church music or singing in a church. 2. a. The part of a church used by such a company of singers."

But then as Eric points out, we have "brass choirs" and such.  Which sometimes are brass sections or brass ensembles. 

I'm not so sure there's a right or wrong way.  I just try to be consistent in my database (and probably don't always succeed even then).  Good luck, cataloging a large collection is a LOT of work..... 8)

Jerry
Title: Re: Help/advice needed
Post by: M. Henriksen on Friday 22 February 2013, 20:24
Thanks everyone. I'm nearly done with my cataloging, but there's always details, details..


Morten