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The Music => Recordings & Broadcasts => Topic started by: Mark Thomas on Friday 08 November 2013, 12:29

Title: Stanford: Complete music for violin and piano.
Post by: Mark Thomas on Friday 08 November 2013, 12:29
Anybody know anything about this 3 CD box (http://www.shevacollection.it/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=77)?
Title: Re: Stanford: Complete music for violin and piano.
Post by: eschiss1 on Friday 08 November 2013, 12:54
I thought there was supposed to be a 3rd sonata, even though it too might need reconstruction ... hrm.  Still, that's a nice impressive collection. I see that quite a few of those works may have only been published posthumously, even some with fairly low opus nos. (Sonata no.2).
Title: Re: Stanford: Complete music for violin and piano.
Post by: Balapoel on Wednesday 13 November 2013, 04:09
Seems like it covers all that I have head of, except:
Violin Sonata No. 3, op 165/1 (1919)
Violin Sonata No. 4, op 165/2 (1919)

Perhaps they are lost?
Title: Re: Stanford: Complete music for violin and piano.
Post by: eschiss1 on Wednesday 13 November 2013, 04:45
Could well be. Rodmell does mention them in his 2002 book on Stanford on page 317- can't see that page in Google Books, does anyone have that book?
Even Op.70 only exists in one manuscript unless it's been published recently, I gather. Or something.
Hrm. Op.165/2 was performed by Miss Murray Lambert and Hamilton Harty on May 7 1919 @ Wigmore Hall, described by whoever was writing as "characteristic of the composer in merit, while tending to an unusually simple style" (Musical Times, June 1 1919, p.306).  Well, that explains the 1919 date, even if it is lost.

That said, MOLCAT (the British Library collection of Manuscripts catalogue) has a whopping huge number of entries under Stanford, Charles- I'll go look there.
Title: Re: Stanford: Complete music for violin and piano.
Post by: matesic on Wednesday 13 November 2013, 16:43
The Charles Villiers Stanford Collection held in Newcastle University apparently comprises 75% of his works and occupies 9 linear metres of shelf space!

http://archiveshub.ac.uk/data/gb186-cvs (http://archiveshub.ac.uk/data/gb186-cvs)

I asked permission of the Stanford Society to transcribe whichever of the 4 unpublished string quartets the collection might hold and put them into the public domain on imslp, but they turned me down - Jeremy Dibble's turf I guess.
Title: Re: Stanford: Complete music for violin and piano.
Post by: eschiss1 on Wednesday 13 November 2013, 20:39
erm... I don't know Professor Dibble (Mr. Dibble?) but it might be worth writing him about it, in my honest and uninformed opinion. (I'm trying to think of the "plus" for his being the only person allowed to typeset Stanford's unpublished manuscripts, if this is in fact the case- I can think of a few hypothetically, but I can think of some serious counterbalancing negatives.)