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Title: Anton Rubinstein's Anthony & Cleopatra
Post by: Mark Thomas on Tuesday 10 December 2013, 17:46
Whilst I'm in Rubinstein mood, does anyone know of a recording (commercial or otherwise) of his Overture Anthony & Cleopatra? I see that it was played in 2012 under Gergiev in both St Petersburg and Saltzburg. Maybe one of these concerts was broadcast?
Title: Re: Anton Rubinstein's Anthony & Cleopatra
Post by: eschiss1 on Wednesday 11 December 2013, 13:41
Now that you've encouraged me to download the full score of the piece (his Op.116 published in (and poss. composed in) 1890), I hope so. I'll see if I can find out anything, though...

(Hrm. Don't know when it was premiered- not that anyone asked- but there are interesting notes to the English premiere of 1891, which was conducted by Cowen.)
Title: Re: Anton Rubinstein's Anthony & Cleopatra
Post by: Mark Thomas on Wednesday 11 December 2013, 14:52
Quotethere are interesting notes to the English premiere of 1891
Where are those notes, please, Eric?
Title: Re: Anton Rubinstein's Anthony & Cleopatra
Post by: eschiss1 on Wednesday 11 December 2013, 16:59
Just added a link to them from the IMSLP workpage. They're here (http://books.google.com/books?id=hNUqAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA67&lpg=PA67). (Philharmonic Society Analytical and Historical Programme, 79th Season, 1891, pages 67 (really 66 I suppose) to 69.)

I wonder if these  might have been some of the concerts to which Tovey provided notes that might have later ... hrm. I forget...
Title: Re: Anton Rubinstein's Anthony & Cleopatra
Post by: Mark Thomas on Wednesday 11 December 2013, 17:44
 >:( Not available for viewing by UK users, unfortunately.
Title: Re: Anton Rubinstein's Anthony & Cleopatra
Post by: eschiss1 on Wednesday 11 December 2013, 19:53
isn't there a google.co.uk or somesuch? Well, I'll try to transcribe the program notes (though not the accompanying music- but then again, the full score can be downloaded from IMSLP, again) - just not right this moment.
It's unfortunate though, since there's other interesting stuff in that volume, like notes to a 1891 performance of Charles Edward Stephens' (lost?) symphony in G minor, etc. ...
Title: Re: Anton Rubinstein's Anthony & Cleopatra
Post by: Mark Thomas on Wednesday 11 December 2013, 22:40
It's a rights issue, I believe, Eric. Accessing it through .co.uk makes no difference. But thanks, anyway. Much appreciated.
Title: Re: Anton Rubinstein's Anthony & Cleopatra
Post by: eschiss1 on Thursday 12 December 2013, 01:50
I really need that rights issue explained somehow... did some of the authors live to 1943 or longer, requiring I suppose a PD-EU block (with certain exceptions that apply in cases of work-for-hire etc., etc.- or as I like to put it, copyright law is law, hence complicated...)  By comparison our 1922/23/mostly-with again lots of exceptions afterwards-don't ask (er- well- it's a long story) looks simple by comparison...

(Yeah, yeah, I know. Offtopic. Sorry. Anyhow, ok. I won't transcribe it either, then.)
Title: Re: Anton Rubinstein's Anthony & Cleopatra
Post by: Mark Thomas on Thursday 12 December 2013, 07:48
Don't worry, Eric, there are ways around it for the determined. Anyway, off-topic, as you say.

So, no recording of Anthony & Cleopatra anywhere, I assume?