Unsung Composers

The Music => Composers & Music => Topic started by: John Hudock on Wednesday 19 May 2010, 14:49

Title: For the Birds
Post by: John Hudock on Wednesday 19 May 2010, 14:49
Now that Spring is here and the air is filled with the songs of birds, I'm inspired to introduce the following topic:

What composers have incorporated bird songs (actual or imitated) into their compositions? Those that immediately come to mind:

Oliver Messiaen, who was an ornothologist, and incorporated specific bird songs into many of his works culminating in his Catalogue D'Oseaux and Oiseaux Exotiques.

Rautavaara has his 'Cantus Arcticus' a Concerto for Birds and Orchestra.

Resphighi's Fountains of Rome includes imitations of bird songs and more explicitly in his suite  'The Birds'

Saint-Saens has several birds in the 'Carnival of the Animals'

Vaughan Williams in the Lark Ascending (several other works evoke birds as I recall).

Swans are well represented in the aforementioned Carnival, Sibelius' Swan of Tuonela, Tchaikovsky's Swan Lake (if somewhat obliquely).

The bird and the duck in Prokofiev's Peter and the Wolf.

Contemporary Japanese composer Tokashi Yoshimatsu (who I heartily recommend to those unfamiliar with him) has many bird song inspired works as well as his better known older contemporary Toru Takemitsu.

Biber incorporates bird songs in several of his violin sonatas, the most explicit is the sonata 'Cock, Hen & Quail'

Vivaldi's flute concerto 'The Goldfinch' explicitly imitates a bird song and there are definite bird song parts of 'Spring'.

Handel has his organ concerto 'The Cuckoo and the Nightingale'

Couperin has several harpsichord works based on bird songs, notably 'Le Rossignol-en-amour et Double'.

Janacek has the somewhat obscure chamber work 'March of the Bluebirds' (Pochod Modrácku)

And jazz musician Paul Winter frequently includes recordings of live bird songs in his music (and uses the bird songs and other natural sounds as inspiration for improvisations).

But most of the above examples are pretty well sung composers (excepting possibly Biber and Yoshimatsu). So where are the unsung compositions using bird songs. The only one that immediately comes to my mind is Holbrooke's 'The Birds of Rhiannon' (James MacMillan has also composed a piece based on this Welsh legend, but I don't recall any specific attempts to imitate birds in it), and more obscurely Chris Sainsbury's 'Symphony of the Birds' (excerpts here:
http://www.sainsburymusic.com/sounds-and-scores).
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Post by: eschiss1 on Wednesday 19 May 2010, 15:02
The two other examples that comes to example just offhand (of course there are many others I'm positive) is the first movement of Roger Sessions' 3rd symphony :)
and - the slow movement of Beethoven's 6th symphony!
Eric
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Post by: thalbergmad on Wednesday 19 May 2010, 18:10
I used to play the Henselt - Si Oiseau J'etais, but i cannot remember if it was particularly "birdy".

Thal
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Post by: M. Henriksen on Wednesday 19 May 2010, 19:44
Walter Braunfels lovely opera "Die Vögel" (composed approx. 1920) should be mentioned here.
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Post by: chill319 on Thursday 20 May 2010, 05:40
Four keyboard works: Birds are portrayed delightfully in Rameau's Le rappel des oiseaux. Poetically in Ravel's Oiseaux tristes. Most imaginatively in Beach's Two Hermit Thrush Pieces.
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Post by: TerraEpon on Thursday 20 May 2010, 06:43
Vivaldi also does so in Spring, don't forget.

Sibelius's Swanwhite has a movement called "Lo, the Robin Sings" which kinda has a bird thing going for it.
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Post by: JimL on Thursday 20 May 2010, 07:01
Not being familiar with European birds and their songs (other than the ones quoted in the works above) I can't be certain, but the Vogel als Prophet section from Schumann's Waldszenen, Op. 82, certainly flits around like a bird.
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Post by: Hovite on Thursday 20 May 2010, 08:06
Quote from: John Hudock on Wednesday 19 May 2010, 14:49Biber incorporates bird songs in several of his violin sonatas, the most explicit is the sonata 'Cock, Hen & Quail'

What about Le Coq d'Or?

(Haydn's Chicken Symphony probably doesn't count.)
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Post by: thalbergmad on Thursday 20 May 2010, 08:38
Quote from: Hovite on Thursday 20 May 2010, 08:06

(Haydn's Chicken Symphony probably doesn't count.)

Indeed it does not.

You must never count your chickens.

Thal
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Post by: black on Thursday 20 May 2010, 08:43
There is also the Amsel Septett (Blackbird Septet) composed by Heinz Tiessen in 1915, his op 20.
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Post by: Hofrat on Thursday 20 May 2010, 09:55
I have read that Beethoven used the call of the European blackbird in the rondo of his violin concerto (the five note motif in the first theme).
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Post by: Ilja on Thursday 20 May 2010, 10:39
A very good piece involving birds is Gregorz Fitelberg's 'Song of the Falcon' (1905), unfortunately (AFAIK) not represented in the catalogue but a vivid evocation of birdflight.
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Post by: John H White on Thursday 20 May 2010, 17:40
How about Haydn's String Quartet Op 64 No 5, nicknamed "The Lark" or, if that's not unsung enough, the weird bird noises in the opening movement of Spohr's 4th Symphony, involving amongst other wind instruments, a tierce flute, tuned a major third above the standard flute.
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Post by: gentile on Friday 21 May 2010, 17:54
Quote from: Ilja on Thursday 20 May 2010, 10:39
A very good piece involving birds is Gregorz Fitelberg's 'Song of the Falcon' (1905), unfortunately (AFAIK) not represented in the catalogue but a vivid evocation of birdflight.

Good news! The Song of the Falcon by Gregorz Fitelberg is indeed represented in the CD catalogue with a recent issue of the label EDA (Reference: EDA 27). I wish that more music  of this composer were available.
By the way, John, if I remember correctly the bird sounds appear in Respighi's "Pines of Rome", not in the "Fountains" (after all, you have higher chances to find birds in the forest than in the fountains!).
I would like to mention also the (to me) extraordinarily beautiful song "Trois beaux oiseaux du Paradis", the second one from Ravel's Trois Chansons for choir.
Title: Re: For the Birds
Post by: John Hudock on Friday 21 May 2010, 18:34
QuoteBy the way, John, if I remember correctly the bird sounds appear in Respighi's "Pines of Rome", not in the "Fountains" (after all, you have higher chances to find birds in the forest than in the fountains!).

Gentile,

You're quite right. I recall and would have to re-listen to confirm that there are some bird like noises in the Fountains to represent the birds that collect around the fountains, the piece with the recording of actual birds is the Pines. Respighi's score actual calls for a specific recording of bird songs to be played.

Thanks all for participating in the little game. There are a few interesting recordings I will have to look for. I am constantly amazed by this groups knowledge of obscure and arcane music.
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Post by: TerraEpon on Friday 21 May 2010, 20:53
Just listening to the orchestral version of Ravel's Ma Merel'Oye, and there's some clear bird sounds in the Petit Poucet movement.
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Post by: chill319 on Saturday 22 May 2010, 01:41
Likewise, no mistaking the bird calls with which Enescu's masterful 'Impressions d'enfance' is replete.
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Post by: Marcus on Saturday 22 May 2010, 14:25
Olivier Mesiaen had a liking for  birds:
Reveil des oiseaux for (Piano & orchestra), and Couleurs de la cite celeste (for Large Orchestra with imitations of two birds from N.Z. & one from Brazil), Oiseaux exotiques (for Piano, 2 wind instruments,Xylophone,Celesta &
Percusion), Catalogue d'oiseaux (for Organ), plus other shorter works.
Marcus.
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Post by: Jonathan on Saturday 22 May 2010, 19:21
There is also Liszt's First Legend - St. François d'Assise - La Prédication aux oiseaux (S175 no.1) which contains a lot of birdsong imitation.  The orchestral version works especially well.
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Post by: M. Henriksen on Monday 24 May 2010, 16:29
A new addition to the steadily growing list of birds in music:

Alphons Diepenbrock: The Birds Overture (composed 1917). A lot of imitated bird calls in this work, especially the middle section with flute-solo.

Morten
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Post by: DennisS on Friday 28 May 2010, 01:57
Another suggestion - Eimar Englund symphony no 2 "The Blackbird" - very enjoyable!

Cheers
Dennis
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Post by: Peter1953 on Friday 28 May 2010, 06:30
And what about Sergei Bortkiewicz, with his Étude d'oiseaux, op. 4 no. 2 from Impressions, six character pieces for piano solo. A very sparkling, short piece lasting only one and a half minutes, with several bird imitations of which I only can identify the call of a cuckoo.

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Another addition is Vöglein (Little Bird) by Grieg (Lyric Pieces, Band 3, op. 43 no. 4).
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Post by: minacciosa on Tuesday 13 March 2012, 02:38
Henry Hadley's Symphony No.5 "Connecticut" uses birdcalls in its second movement. The three movement work seeks to describe the state of Connecticut at various periods of its history, and the second movement is marked Pastorale, "1765". (The other movements are "1635", which describes the first settlers, their hardships and conflicts with Native Americans, and "1935", which describes the hustle and bustle of the state in its modern age at the time of composition. The composer names the birds as they are used, and I must say that after looking up and hearing the actual birdsongs themselves, Hadley did a phenomenal job of notating and recreating them.
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Post by: semloh on Tuesday 13 March 2012, 04:32
Quote from: minacciosa on Tuesday 13 March 2012, 02:38
Henry Hadley's Symphony No.5 "Connecticut" uses birdcalls in its second movement. ......

Wow! It sounds like you have a recording of Hadley's 5th! If so, is it possible to upload it - please? I only know of the Naxos disc of his 4th....

He is definitely an unsung composers whose works I would love to hear!  :) :)
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Post by: Christopher on Tuesday 13 March 2012, 08:39
Alexander Alexandrovich Alabiev (1787-1851) -  "Nightingale" ("Solovey" in Russian) is for coloratura soprano, and is an extremely popular piece in Russia, though maybe an unsung elsewhere.  Russian sopranos belt it out to prove their abilities! This is a good example - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dh5gohpKNVA&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dh5gohpKNVA&feature=related) - sung by Georgian soprano Lamara Chkonia.  Many others on youtube as well.

Didn't Leopold Mozart use birdsong in his Toy Symphony?

And there's a great piece by an Estonian composer, Veljo Tormis (b.1930) called Swan Flight.
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Post by: alberto on Tuesday 13 March 2012, 16:52
The first set of Gianfrancesco Malipiero "Impressioni dal Vero" (recent Naxos recording) contains three pieces titled:
The blackcap, the woodpecker, the scops owl: for me truly marvellous and very personal music.
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Post by: JimL on Tuesday 13 March 2012, 17:43
Probably the most famous birdcalls in the repertory: 2nd movement of Beethoven's Pastoral Symphony, where you have that brief woodwind cadenza wherein you hear (IIRC) a yellowhammer(?) a nightingale and, of course, a cukoo.
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Post by: Jimfin on Wednesday 14 March 2012, 08:54
The opening scene (after the Prologue) of "Paul Bunyan" has definite birdsong effects
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Post by: Paul Barasi on Wednesday 14 March 2012, 22:50
If you want to pick up birds it's hard to find where not to go: Rott's symphony has its ducks and his prodigy Mahler his birdsong, cuckoos and calls aplenty (such as M1:1 and M7).  Wagner's Siegfried has his birdsong and Lohengrin his swan as Tchaikovsky and Sibelius do too. Oskar Sala has his Hitcockian bird noises, Sullivan his tom-tit, Delius his lark, Shchedrin his seagull, Kodoly his peacock, and Stravinsky even a firebird. ... There's absolutely no end to it.
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Post by: JimL on Wednesday 14 March 2012, 23:45
Don't hate me please: RVW - The Lark Ascending.  ::)
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Post by: minacciosa on Thursday 22 March 2012, 22:44
Quote from: semloh on Tuesday 13 March 2012, 04:32
Quote from: minacciosa on Tuesday 13 March 2012, 02:38
Henry Hadley's Symphony No.5 "Connecticut" uses birdcalls in its second movement. ......

Wow! It sounds like you have a recording of Hadley's 5th! If so, is it possible to upload it - please? I only know of the Naxos disc of his 4th....

He is definitely an unsung composers whose works I would love to hear!  :) :)
Unfortunately I don't have a recording; I have a score. Should a performance occur, I will certainly share.
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Post by: alberto on Friday 23 March 2012, 09:55
Birtwistle: Night's black bird ( I have heard it twice in actual concerts in the span of one year; magisterial avant-garde- and the piece is short).
Villa Lobos : Uirapurù (or "The Enchanted Bird")
Ravel: Trois Beaux Oiseaux du Paradis
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Post by: Peter1953 on Saturday 21 April 2012, 08:29
An old thread, but a new spring. Recently I came across a CD called The animal in the 20th century piano music, played by the Dutch pianist Marius van Paassen (1983).
The birds are:
Ravel: Oiseaux Tristes (= sad birds), from Miroirs
Granados: Quejas ó la Maya y el Ruisenor (= the complaint or the maiden and the nightingale), from Goyescas. Towards the end of the piece in a sad silence, a nightingale sings.
Van den Sigtenhorst Meyer: from Eight Préludes: No. 5 Marabou and No. 6 Humming-bird
Messiaen: Le Traquet stapazin (= some kind of a Bunting, living in the Pyrenees near the coast of the Mediterranean Sea), from Le Catalogue des Oiseaux.
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Post by: chill319 on Saturday 21 April 2012, 18:59
MacDowell wrote a miniature etude called "To a Hummingbird."
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Post by: mjkFendrich on Saturday 21 April 2012, 20:05
Hermann Suter's 3rd string quartet op.20 in G (1918) has the title "Amselrufe" (blackbird songs)
unfortunately I've never heard it.
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Post by: carter brandon on Saturday 21 April 2012, 21:14
Finnissy's 3rd Quartet-44 mins long-sustantial portions of taped birdsong.

My favourite 'official' birdsong orchestral moment is the actual opening of Englund 2- cited earlier

You will hear a lot of birdsong in Maxwell Davies- many places

I swear if you listen often enough to Webern's op21 symphony, first movement, it is there in the clarinet
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Post by: chill319 on Saturday 21 April 2012, 21:18
From Wikipedia's entry on Martin Denny, he of the exotic lounge music:
QuoteThe original combo consisted of Augie Colon on percussion and birdcalls,
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Post by: reiger on Wednesday 16 May 2012, 14:07
Has anyone mentioned Ballet of the Unhatched Chicks from Mussorgsky's Pictures at an Exhibition?
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Post by: Christopher on Wednesday 16 May 2012, 16:58
Quote from: reiger on Wednesday 16 May 2012, 14:07
Has anyone mentioned Ballet of the Unhatched Chicks from Mussorgsky's Pictures at an Exhibition?

Or the Hut on Hen's Legs for that matter....!
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Post by: sdtom on Sunday 10 July 2016, 17:57
In my cleaning and reorganizing of my CD's I found a recording of the 'blackbird.' Not too impressed
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Post by: mbhaub on Sunday 10 July 2016, 18:37
Ah, but I am deeply impressed with the Blackbird Pub in Earl's Court. My favorite London hangout...
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Post by: sdtom on Monday 11 July 2016, 19:33
I'm happy for you friend. I'll give it another listen.
Tom