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Title: Robert Kahn Piano Quintet etc
Post by: eschiss1 on Wednesday 12 March 2014, 01:56
We have a recording of this piece, and I see it was published by Bote & Bock in 1910, as well as performed that year; a review of that performance has this and that to say about it and notes that it has 3 movements (and I think notes that the 2nd movement is an Adagio). Having some difficulty turning up more information even about the movement specs of the piece? (or why our recording should have 4 tracks for a "dreisätzige" piece. Given m'druthers, of course, more interested in reasonably detailed movement names/tempi/whathave than in the latter, which I can probably easily make a number of guesses at :).)
Thanks in advance :)
Eric
Title: Re: Robert Kahn Piano Quintet etc
Post by: eschiss1 on Sunday 16 March 2014, 20:08
Never mind, someone's uploaded this to IMSLP (http://imslp.org/wiki/Quintet,_Op.54_(Kahn,_Robert)). There are indeed 4 movements:

I. Allegro non troppo.
II. Presto assai.
III. Andante sostenuto.
IV. Allegro agitato.
Title: Re: Robert Kahn Piano Quintet etc
Post by: SadRobotSings on Friday 21 March 2014, 04:41
As it turns out, I uploaded the score! I'm desperate to hear a recording though! I haven't been able to find one anywhere. As a clarinetist I was pretty excited to find this piece. Any chance I can hear it? :)
Title: Re: Robert Kahn Piano Quintet etc
Post by: Mark Thomas on Friday 21 March 2014, 14:41
You can download a recording of it (uploaded by Semi.Serio) in our archives here (http://www.unsungcomposers.com/forum/index.php/topic,1373.msg36468/topicseen.html#msg36468).
Title: Re: Robert Kahn Piano Quintet etc
Post by: eschiss1 on Friday 21 March 2014, 15:40
Indeed, that was the source of my interest. Thanks for uploading the score and parts!
Title: Re: Robert Kahn Piano Quintet etc
Post by: SadRobotSings on Friday 21 March 2014, 15:53
No problem! I've been making it sort of a personal mission of mine to upload more of his works. Many of them are long out of print though, and extremely hard to find! Aside from his huge number of songs, there's still a String Quartet (Op.8, written for and first performed by the Joachim Quartet!), a Violin Sonata, and a cello Sonata I haven't been able to get my hands on. I think his music is really under-recorded as well.

I'm so happy to have a recording of the Quintet! What a cool piece!
Title: Re: Robert Kahn Piano Quintet etc
Post by: eschiss1 on Friday 21 March 2014, 21:48
The cello sonata in D minor? This one (http://imslp.org/wiki/Cello_Sonata,_Op.56_%28Kahn,_Robert%29)? I think he wrote another one too, his Op.37, which I'm unfamiliar with aside from its existence or once-existence(- ah, ok, some libraries do still list the 1903 Dreililien edition.). But the 2nd(?) cello sonata we (IMSLP, I mean) have in score, parts, recording (no kitchen sink though), and it's quite good or so it seems to me...

I think between us (well, me that I know about, certainly) we've been making the IMSLP wishlist of his works on-the-long side (not that _I_ mind, it's not, I think, too long yet for the rules there.)
Title: Re: Robert Kahn Piano Quintet etc
Post by: SadRobotSings on Saturday 22 March 2014, 00:59
Op.37, that's the one! His violin Sonata Op. 26 and the String Quartet Op. 8 were there other ones I was referring too. I haven't had any luck with Op. 26, but there's a library in Philly I'm planning on borrowing the String Quartet parts from.

The piece I really want to hear is his first violin sonata, Op. 5. I was reading a memoir of Kahn's recently, where he described how much Brahms had apparently liked it!

Yeah, I added a few too many pieces to the wishlist :P I managed to get my hands on a complete list of his works and got a little excited. But hopefully I can knock some off in the next few weeks! I have the clarinet trio in score, and a few more of the songs as well. Many of them have been reproduced in the last ten years.

QuoteYou can download a recording of it (uploaded by Semi.Serio) in our archives here.

Hey Mark! I found an old link to Kahn's Piano Quartet No.1 in B minor op.14 (1891)  in the archives as well that no longer works. Do you still have access to this one? I'd love to hear it.
Title: Re: Robert Kahn Piano Quintet etc
Post by: eschiss1 on Saturday 22 March 2014, 01:13
Library in Philadelphia- the Carnegie Library (with the wonderful-so-far-as-I-know Fleisher collection? _That_ one?...) :)

Title: Re: Robert Kahn Piano Quintet etc
Post by: SadRobotSings on Saturday 22 March 2014, 01:28
Yeah! Said they'd mail out the parts for like a ten dollar deposit! Unfortunately those other pieces only seem to be in more far flung places.
Title: Re: Robert Kahn Piano Quintet etc
Post by: eschiss1 on Saturday 22 March 2014, 01:41
Neat, I thought they only loaned to institutions (universities, orchestras, etc.) - maybe that's the Fleisher Collection specifically, maybe the rest of the - sorry, Carnegie Library is Pittsburgh, isn't it- I mean the Free Library of Philadelphia...

(1) Carnegie Library- Pittsburgh (my mistake :) )- other side of state (I know that...)
(2) Free Library of Philadelphia - contains Fleisher Collection

... hrm.
(One of these days I have to put aside $10 for something like that, unless it's just a Philadelphia-resident thing. Still, there are other places (Danish Royal Library, Bavarian Lib. Munich, ... I think) that will digitize some works in their collection on request, I gather- though I wish I could figure out -how- to (1) create an account (2) make a request... :D  The former has Kahn's op.22 lieder (closed stack- I don't know if they digitize closed-stack items. Sibley Library has, among items they haven't digitized yet, his Lieder Op.83. They have one of the Lieder im Volkston Op.47 (going to upload it now...) - "Storm Song". (Hrm, I think it's one of his op.47. ... hrm... oh, no, it's op.53, that's on the score)
Title: Re: Robert Kahn Piano Quintet etc
Post by: SadRobotSings on Sunday 23 March 2014, 04:47
Actually the Free Library is the one I meant! :p

Since this has become sort of a general thread on Kahn, I though I'd share something I mentioned before. Article from an old Musical Quarterly with some biographical info and translations of Kahn's memoirs on Brahms. Thought some people here might get a kick out of it!

https://www.mediafire.com/?855tla0tbegi0ba (https://www.mediafire.com/?855tla0tbegi0ba)
Title: Re: Robert Kahn Piano Quintet etc
Post by: SadRobotSings on Sunday 23 March 2014, 16:52
Also, apparently the elusive Op. 37 has been recorded!

http://www.cavalli-records.com/ccd/ccd269.htm (http://www.cavalli-records.com/ccd/ccd269.htm)
Title: Re: Robert Kahn Piano Quintet etc
Post by: fahl5 on Tuesday 28 October 2014, 20:09
It is a pitty, that the recording of Kahns 54 in the unsungscomposer-archiv seems to be no longer available.

Meanwhile there are still some "soundbites (http://www.editionsilvertrust.com/kahn-quintet-op54.htm)" with excerpts of the music somewhere else online I found there is still enough room for a new complete recording which belongs to my project to record the whole chambermusic by Robert Kahn.

So here is my:

complete recording of Kahns Pianoquintett op.54 (http://klassik-resampled.de/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=1025:r-kahn-pianoquintett-c-minor-op-54&catid=47:ensemble-with-piano&Itemid=270&lang=en)

I hope you like it.
best fahl5
Title: Re: Robert Kahn Piano Quintet etc
Post by: jerfilm on Wednesday 29 October 2014, 12:19
Nice job, Stefan, as usual.  Thanks.

Jerry
Title: Re: Robert Kahn Piano Quintet etc
Post by: Martin Eastick on Friday 19 February 2021, 11:27
No soundbites here yet (Edition Silvertrust can help though), but the Quintet Op54 for piano and mixed string/woodwind combination would seem to tick all the boxes! https://www.jpc.de/jpcng/classic/detail/-/art/robert-kahn-leaves-from-the-tree-of/hnum/10420005 (https://www.jpc.de/jpcng/classic/detail/-/art/robert-kahn-leaves-from-the-tree-of/hnum/10420005)
Title: Re: Robert Kahn Piano Quintet etc
Post by: Alan Howe on Friday 19 February 2021, 12:30
It certainly ticks all my boxes. Spotted it earlier this morning - glad you've posted about it as I didn't have time!
Title: Re: Robert Kahn Piano Quintet etc
Post by: eschiss1 on Friday 19 February 2021, 23:05
meanwhile see this thread (http://www.unsungcomposers.com/forum/index.php/topic,4923.msg55592.html#msg55592) which relates :)
Title: Re: Robert Kahn Piano Quintet etc
Post by: Alan Howe on Friday 19 February 2021, 23:09
Thanks, Eric - I've merged the two threads.
Title: Re: Robert Kahn Piano Quintet etc
Post by: Alan Howe on Saturday 27 February 2021, 18:10
Excerpts here:
https://www.prestomusic.com/classical/products/8874122--robert-kahn-leaves-from-the-tree-of-life
Title: Re: Robert Kahn Piano Quintet etc
Post by: Gareth Vaughan on Saturday 27 February 2021, 21:44
I see Fleisher has some of his music including, interestingly, the Konzertstuck for piano & orchestra (score & parts).
Title: Re: Robert Kahn Piano Quintet etc
Post by: John Boyer on Thursday 19 May 2022, 15:01
Did anyone ever get the Ensemble Emigre recording of the C-minor Quintet, piano pieces, and songs?  I've been listening to my copy these last few days.  The singing is nothing to write home about, but the performances of the piano pieces and the quintet are all well worth it.