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The Music => Recordings & Broadcasts => Topic started by: Wheesht on Sunday 14 September 2014, 06:47

Title: Robert Radecke chamber music
Post by: Wheesht on Sunday 14 September 2014, 06:47
The Swiss Trio Fontane are playing chamber music by Robert Radecke (1830-1911) in a few concerts in the coming weeks. On 14 October they will record these pieces for cpo - in collaboration with Swiss radio, so presumably there will be a broadcast:

- Trio für Pianoforte, Violine und Violoncello in As-Dur op. 30: Allegro molto vivace - Scherzo: Presto fuocoso - Andante sostenuto - Allegro
appassionato. Exzellenz Illaire gewidmet
- Drei Fantasiestücke für Pianoforte und Violoncello op. 7: Andante – Moderato – Presto. Andreas Grabau gewidmet
- 2. Trio für Pianoforte, Violine und Violoncello in h-Moll op. 33: Allegro appassionato - Andante molto espressivo - Scherzo: Allegro molto
vivace - Allegro ma non troppo. Anton Rubinstein gewidmet
Title: Re: Robert Radecke chamber music
Post by: Alan Howe on Sunday 14 September 2014, 09:26
This is fascinating news. Thanks very much indeed!
Title: Re: Robert Radecke chamber music
Post by: Wheesht on Sunday 14 September 2014, 18:52
I'm planning to attend one of the concerts, on 28 September, and I am very much looking forward to it. The concert organiser is the composer's great-grandson.
Title: Re: Robert Radecke chamber music
Post by: eschiss1 on Sunday 14 September 2014, 20:47
Good news, thanks!
Title: Re: Robert Radecke chamber music
Post by: Aramiarz on Sunday 28 September 2014, 03:13
Dear Wheesht
   Hello! Can you to to concert for listen Radecke ?  Have you more cd's music from him?
Title: Re: Robert Radecke chamber music
Post by: eschiss1 on Sunday 28 September 2014, 04:34
There is a recording of his symphony in F major - probably a private one, I think. The Zurich library has it, anyway. See this (http://cornell.worldcat.org/title/sinfonie-op-50-f-dur/oclc/638410129) for a description.  I didn't know that recording existed, though.  Worldcat also lists recordings from the same source - Radio DRS - of his Piano Trio in A-flat Op.30, and some lieder and choral collections that contain individual works of his (mostly, I think, his most famous work relatively speaking, Aus der Jugendzeit.)
Title: Re: Robert Radecke chamber music
Post by: Wheesht on Sunday 28 September 2014, 10:14
I am going to the Radecke chamber music concert today - greatly looking forward to it! I was not aware of the recordings of the Symphony and the Piano Trio. Both are indeed held at the "Musiksammlung" of the Zurich library, but they are both marked as "not to be used", presumably because they are archive recordings (the Trio at least bears that description). I will be in Zurich tomorrow and can try to find out more from the library. The good news regarding the symphony is that the Symphony Orchestra Biel Solothurn conducted by Kaspar Zehnder will play it in several concerts next March and that it will be recorded by CPO.
Title: Re: Robert Radecke chamber music
Post by: Aramiarz on Sunday 28 September 2014, 17:41
Dear Wheesht, congratulations  for your travel!! That You enjoy the concert! Please share with us your impressions! It's very good new the near recording And release from Naxos! Anyone listened the symphony? What is the opinion about this work, I found that the second symphony by Rudorff was dedicated to Radecke Robert.
Title: Re: Robert Radecke chamber music
Post by: eschiss1 on Sunday 28 September 2014, 21:49
Really? Not according to the title page of the score, which gives "Ernst Curtius" as the dedicatee. What am I missing?
Title: Re: Robert Radecke chamber music
Post by: Alan Howe on Monday 29 September 2014, 07:58
QuoteThe good news regarding the symphony is that the Symphony Orchestra Biel Solothurn conducted by Kaspar Zehnder will play it in several concerts next March and that it will be recorded by CPO

That's great news. Thanks for sharing it with us.
Title: Re: Robert Radecke chamber music
Post by: Aramiarz on Tuesday 30 September 2014, 14:42
Dear Eschiss1

Sorry ! Have You reason, the work that Rudorff dedicated to Radecke is Ouvertüre zu Ludwig Tieck's Märchen Der blonde Ekbert : für Orchester, op. 8 /

The Rudorff's second symphony was dedicated to Curtius, have You idea about who is he?
Title: Re: Robert Radecke chamber music
Post by: eschiss1 on Tuesday 30 September 2014, 15:07
Wikipedia says he was an archaeologist and historian of note, born 1814, died 1896- 6 years after the publication of the symphony. A friend, or just someone admired and respected, by the composer?...

I wonder if the 3rd symphony has a dedicatee lacking from our IMSLP copy, though... hopefully the cpo notes will clarify. :) 

Am curious about those Radecke piano trios, one of which (see IMSLP (http://imslp.org/wiki/Piano_Trio,_Op.33_(Radecke,_Robert))) we have in score & parts over there...) looking forward to hearing that report :)
Title: Re: Robert Radecke chamber music
Post by: Wheesht on Wednesday 01 October 2014, 16:22
Here is, for what it's worth, my brief, amateurish report on the concert with the Piano Trios: I enjoyed both of them very much, they were full of variety and rich in melody, more reminiscent of Schumann (and Schubert) than Brahms, but original in their own right - and they had three excellent and enthusiastic advocates in the Trio Fontane. The CD will be a must buy item for me, and I only hope the musicians were right when they said that it should become available within about a year (not that I have nothing else to listen to meanwhile...)
Title: Re: Robert Radecke chamber music
Post by: Alan Howe on Wednesday 01 October 2014, 16:42
Sounds like good, solid, attractive stuff - and a highly desirable CD. Thanks for the report.
Title: Re: Robert Radecke chamber music
Post by: Aramiarz on Friday 03 October 2014, 06:33
Dear Wheesht
   Thank You very much for You appreciations! Very interesting works! I hope that very soon are available in cd. Other question, have You listened de Radecke's symphony? Or any comment about it?
Title: Re: Robert Radecke chamber music
Post by: Wheesht on Friday 03 October 2014, 20:00
Unfortunately the recording of the Symphony held by the Musiksammlung in Zürich is unavailable and so I'll have to wait until March next year to hear the live performance.
Title: Re: Robert Radecke chamber music
Post by: Florestano on Sunday 12 October 2014, 19:27
I am fully aware that this is not to the point but Robert Radecke's grandson, Ewald Radecke, happened to be my piano teacher (and wow, what a teacher !) I remember him telling me that his share of the royalties for his grandfather's "hit" "Aus der Jugendzeit" was still a substantial source of income for him and his familly. I also remember that Ewald owned the autographs of some Bach cantatas. One of his sons, Georg Radecke, is apparently still living in Winterthur, Switzerland. Maybe he can help with the missing recording.
Good luck
Florestano
Title: Re: Robert Radecke chamber music
Post by: eschiss1 on Sunday 12 October 2014, 23:58
maybe not  "to the point" but I found it very interesting. Thank you.
Title: Re: Robert Radecke chamber music
Post by: Wheesht on Monday 13 October 2014, 19:00
So did I. I mentioned that Radecke's great-grandson Christian Radecke was the organiser of that chamber music concert, so there are some descendants still alive in Switzerland.