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The Music => Composers & Music => Topic started by: Alan Howe on Saturday 19 June 2010, 21:02

Title: Draeseke Violin Concerto update
Post by: Alan Howe on Saturday 19 June 2010, 21:02
I understand that work on the orchestration of Draeseke's VC is progressing well and that it should be completed early in 2011. In addition, a well-known violinist with a reputation for recording unsung works has shown interest in the piece....
Title: Re: Draeseke Violin Concerto update
Post by: JimL on Saturday 19 June 2010, 22:12
Turban or I'll buy a hat to eat! ;D
Title: Re: Draeseke Violin Concerto update
Post by: eschiss1 on Saturday 19 June 2010, 22:21
Quote from: JimL on Saturday 19 June 2010, 22:12
Turban or I'll buy a hat to eat! ;D

Or Tobias Ringborg, perhaps... could think of a few others- but Turban sounds a good guess to me-
Eric
Title: Re: Draeseke Violin Concerto update
Post by: Alan Howe on Thursday 12 May 2011, 23:42
The news from Germany is that the orchestration by Professor Wolfgang Müller-Steinbach (a Draeseke expert) of Draeseke's wonderful VC has been completed. It is now in the process of being published. In addition, I can report that the violinist who is interested in performing it is British...
Title: Re: Draeseke Violin Concerto update
Post by: JimL on Friday 13 May 2011, 00:23
Marwood?  Little?
Title: Re: Draeseke Violin Concerto update
Post by: Alan Howe on Friday 13 May 2011, 00:46
Nope and nope. Much younger (and at present anyway, less well-known).
Title: Re: Draeseke Violin Concerto update
Post by: JimL on Friday 13 May 2011, 01:12
Anybody know where I can buy a sugar-free chocolate hat?  ::)
Title: Re: Draeseke Violin Concerto update
Post by: Alan Howe on Friday 13 May 2011, 07:59
Not to worry, Jim. Unless you have a handle on the UK music scene, this particular guessing game is going to lead you to more than one purchase of edible headgear. Mind you, the person in question has made recordings... ;)
Title: Re: Draeseke Violin Concerto update
Post by: John H White on Friday 13 May 2011, 09:29
Why not a chocolate turban Jim? Lets see a photo of you wearing it before you consume it. :)
Title: Re: Draeseke Violin Concerto update
Post by: Richard Moss on Friday 13 May 2011, 16:09
Folks,

You may well already be aware but for anyone interested, there are extracts of this emerging butterfly (violin & piano only version) on YOUTUBE.  Searching under 'draeseke violin concerto' works (surprisingly enough!)

The following is the text attached to a clip from the 1st mvt.

"Felix Draeseke - Premiere of the Violin Concerto in e-minor, WoO 15 (version for violin and piano; First movement: Allegro appassionata [excerpt]). Julia Röntz, Violin & Wolfgang Müller-Steinbach, Piano in the Schlosskirche Brahms-Saal, Schloss Elisabethenburg in Meiningen; June 2009.

Cheers

Richard

Title: Re: Draeseke Violin Concerto update
Post by: Alan Howe on Friday 13 May 2011, 22:54
Thanks for the link. These details are probably well-known to most (longer-standing) members of the forum, but it's good to have a reminder of them.

FYI, the violin/piano reduction was always known to be in the SLUB Library in Dresden - then, roughly six years ago, I managed to get them to copy the hand-written score digitally and it was made available on the Draeseke Webpages website. Thus a public performance was eventually made possible and it took place during the annual International Draeseke Society conference in Germany in 2009 - this is what can be viewed on Youtube.

But the next step is to get Müller-Steinbach's orchestration performed once the score has been published...

BTW mp3s of the 2009 violin/piano performance can be downloaded here...
http://www.draeseke.org/news/IDG2009VC/index.htm (http://www.draeseke.org/news/IDG2009VC/index.htm)
Title: Re: Draeseke Violin Concerto update
Post by: Richard Moss on Sunday 15 May 2011, 10:43
Alan, 

Tks for link to full work - much nicer to be able to download and then listen at leisure.

Best wishes

Richard
Title: Re: Draeseke Violin Concerto update
Post by: Alan Howe on Sunday 15 May 2011, 13:19
My pleasure, Richard. What do you think of the concerto?
Title: Re: Draeseke Violin Concerto update
Post by: Richard Moss on Thursday 19 May 2011, 20:16
alan,

I've now had the chance to listen  a couple of times (albeit I'm not a skilled listener/musicologist), so its amateur impressions only.

My impression was:

(i) the Benda section was very melodic
(ii) the concerto itself seems quite melodic in parts but I'm not very good at visualising (or its audio equivalent!) what the faster sections might sound like in an orchestral version. 

Apart from Mr Alkan's prodigious work (Op. 39), most renditions for orchestra down to a piano or similar don't really work for me (that was my main reservation about Mr Thadani's synthesised works by Bortkiewicz, in spite of some most enjoyable piano playing).

Hope the orchestral version isn't too long in its genesis.

Best wishes

Richard

Title: Re: Draeseke Violin Concerto update
Post by: Alan Howe on Thursday 19 May 2011, 22:20
Thanks, Richard. It's good to have your opinion. For me (as another untrained amateur), the VC is one of Draeseke's most memorable and beautiful works, together with, say, the 2nd String Quartet, Quintet Op.48 and Stelzner Quintet. And it certainly repays repeated listens...
Title: Re: Draeseke Violin Concerto update
Post by: FBerwald on Thursday 07 April 2016, 07:57
IS there any plans to record this unicorn of a concerto... now that the orchestration has been completed?
Title: Re: Draeseke Violin Concerto update
Post by: Alan Howe on Thursday 07 April 2016, 09:10
In a word: No. Not that I know of.
Title: Re: Draeseke Violin Concerto update
Post by: Mark Thomas on Thursday 07 April 2016, 09:18
That's a great shame. Having gone to the expense of commissioning the orchestration and publishing the score, it's surprising that the International Draeseke Society hasn't organised a performance and a recording. As things stand now, it seems to have been wasted effort. Maybe they are missing the enthusiasm and drive of the late Alan Krueck?
Title: Re: Draeseke Violin Concerto update
Post by: Gareth Vaughan on Thursday 07 April 2016, 09:38
Do I understand that the orchestrated score has been published and, if so, is it possible to obtain a copy?
Title: Re: Draeseke Violin Concerto update
Post by: musiclover on Thursday 07 April 2016, 20:08
Maybe they should send it to someone like Sergey Levitin, the new star violinist in the Dutton stable. His Bortkeiwicz VC recording is stunning.
Title: Re: Draeseke Violin Concerto update
Post by: Mark Thomas on Thursday 07 April 2016, 22:02
QuoteDo I understand that the orchestrated score has been published
Judging by Alan's post back in 2011 (http://www.unsungcomposers.com/forum/index.php/topic,538.msg14243.html#msg14243), the orchestration should have been published by now, but that's only my assumption Gareth. Alan will know better than me.
Title: Re: Draeseke Violin Concerto update
Post by: Alan Howe on Thursday 07 April 2016, 23:35
The score was published in 2013 by Florian Noetzel Verlag of Wilhelmshaven. Please see page 15 of their catalogue:
http://www.noetzel-verlag.de/uploads/media/Gesamtverzeichnis-Noten_2014.pdf
(http://www.noetzel-verlag.de/uploads/media/Gesamtverzeichnis-Noten_2014.pdf)
Title: Re: Draeseke Violin Concerto update
Post by: Gareth Vaughan on Friday 08 April 2016, 12:09
Thank you very much, Alan.
Title: Re: Draeseke Violin Concerto update
Post by: Alan Howe on Friday 08 April 2016, 13:50
I have a copy - it cost me over £100!
Title: Re: Draeseke Violin Concerto update
Post by: Gareth Vaughan on Friday 08 April 2016, 15:18
Yes. It does look pretty expensive. I might have to save up for mine.