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The Music => Recordings & Broadcasts => Topic started by: Alan Howe on Tuesday 17 March 2015, 07:08

Title: Herbeck Grosse Messe
Post by: Alan Howe on Tuesday 17 March 2015, 07:08
A very interesting forthcoming release:

Johann von Herbeck (1831-1877): Große Messe in E minor for Chorus, Organ and Orchestra:
https://www.jpc.de/jpcng/classic/detail/-/art/johann-von-herbeck-grosse-messe-e-moll-fuer-chor-orgel-und-orchester/hnum/7068738 (https://www.jpc.de/jpcng/classic/detail/-/art/johann-von-herbeck-grosse-messe-e-moll-fuer-chor-orgel-und-orchester/hnum/7068738)

More info on Herbeck here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johann_von_Herbeck (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johann_von_Herbeck)
Title: Re: Herbeck Grosse Messe
Post by: Alan Howe on Tuesday 17 March 2015, 12:06
The work was written and first performed in Vienna in 1866.
Title: Re: Herbeck Grosse Messe
Post by: Alan Howe on Tuesday 28 April 2015, 16:57
Try track six:
https://www.jpc.de/jpcng/classic/detail/-/art/johann-von-herbeck-grosse-messe-e-moll-fuer-chor-orgel-und-orchester/hnum/7068738 (https://www.jpc.de/jpcng/classic/detail/-/art/johann-von-herbeck-grosse-messe-e-moll-fuer-chor-orgel-und-orchester/hnum/7068738)
Title: Re: Herbeck Grosse Messe
Post by: eschiss1 on Tuesday 28 April 2015, 22:58
http://daten.digitale-sammlungen.de/bsb00077071/image_7 (http://daten.digitale-sammlungen.de/bsb00077071/image_7) - first page (linked to the rest) of the full score of the E minor mass (as published by Gutmann of Vienna, ca.1879.)
Title: Re: Herbeck Grosse Messe
Post by: Alan Howe on Saturday 02 May 2015, 12:21
This, I venture, is a major find. The Grosse Messe is a most dignified and beautiful piece for choir, organ and orchestra and was apparently rediscovered in the Austrian National Library in Vienna by the conductor on this new recording, Gerd Schaller. If only more conductors were prepared to do this sort of work, who knows what might be unearthed?

The idiom is conservative, admittedly, but the writing for choir is subtle and varied - and the whole thing is magnificently performed and recorded. Schaller, of course, is well-known for his superlative renderings of Bruckner's symphonies; I don't think it's at all fanciful to suggest that his experience with the wide-open spaces of Bruckner's music have been a significant factor in producing such a sensitive performance of Herbeck's mass. Recommended to all lovers of 19th century choral music. 
Title: Re: Herbeck Grosse Messe
Post by: Alan Howe on Sunday 03 May 2015, 18:28
Track 6, the Agnus Dei, is absolutely sublime. Truly inspired music.
Title: Re: Herbeck Grosse Messe
Post by: eschiss1 on Monday 04 May 2015, 05:28
Hrm... as to Bruckner in connection with Herbeck I recall recently noticing that the latter premiered a work or two of the former (the F minor mass and one of the symphonies too I think?) (I don't know how well they knew each other but expect that information is probably well-known to others...)
I'm under the impression that the CD of his 4th symphony and symphonic variations could be the only major recorded release (primarily) of his music before this recording of his E minor mass but I'm not positive. I'd thought for a moment that I'd seen a recording of his requiem reviewed but I think I was thinking of Huttenbrenner, there (erm... oops. !!!)
Title: Re: Herbeck Grosse Messe
Post by: Alan Howe on Monday 04 May 2015, 09:20
There's little connection between Herbeck and Bruckner, stylistically speaking. Herbeck is more conservative. 
Title: Re: Herbeck Grosse Messe
Post by: sdtom on Monday 04 May 2015, 13:14
I enjoyed the audio clip of track number6 and now I want to have it. Alan has a way of keeping the credit card balance on the high side  :D Alan are you sure you don't get some sort of compensation from the manufacturers?
Tom
Title: Re: Herbeck Grosse Messe
Post by: Alan Howe on Monday 04 May 2015, 13:18
Wouldn't that be lovely...?
Title: Re: Herbeck Grosse Messe
Post by: sdtom on Monday 04 May 2015, 13:43
I looked at the US Amazon and saw nothing so far but I'll keep my eye out for it.
Tom :)
Title: Re: Herbeck Grosse Messe
Post by: ken on Saturday 09 May 2015, 23:36
Herbeck's Great Mass in E Minor is being released in the US on June 9th and can be purchased from Amazon.com

Here's the link:
http://www.amazon.com/Johann-von-Herbeck-Great-minor/dp/B00WFMVNE8/ref=sr_1_2?s=music&ie=UTF8&qid=1431210858&sr=1-2&keywords=herbeck (http://www.amazon.com/Johann-von-Herbeck-Great-minor/dp/B00WFMVNE8/ref=sr_1_2?s=music&ie=UTF8&qid=1431210858&sr=1-2&keywords=herbeck)
Title: Re: Herbeck Grosse Messe
Post by: ken on Tuesday 19 May 2015, 02:16
A beautifully performed and recorded disc.  The only downside is the short playing time of 47:33.  This is the only recording available to my knowledge and I highly recommend it!