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The Music => Recordings & Broadcasts => Topic started by: Alan Howe on Friday 20 March 2015, 19:19

Title: Miaskovsky Silentium, Op.9
Post by: Alan Howe on Friday 20 March 2015, 19:19
...a symphonic poem, conducted by Leon Botstein (download only):
http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B003XND332/ref=sr_1_556_rd?_encoding=UTF8&child=B003XNHRZM&qid=1426879075&sr=1-556%3C/a%3E (http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B003XND332/ref=sr_1_556_rd?_encoding=UTF8&child=B003XNHRZM&qid=1426879075&sr=1-556%3C/a%3E)
Title: Re: Miaskovsky Silentium, Op.9
Post by: mjkFendrich on Friday 20 March 2015, 20:56
.... available in somewhat better quality (mp 320) and MUCH cheaper here:

http://play.google.com/store/music/album/American_Symphony_Orchestra_Miaskovsky_Silentium_S?id=Bbbhle5v7aoqa35msfectpst4ju (http://play.google.com/store/music/album/American_Symphony_Orchestra_Miaskovsky_Silentium_S?id=Bbbhle5v7aoqa35msfectpst4ju)

Thank you for bringing this work to our attention!

                                                             mjkF
Title: Re: Miaskovsky Silentium, Op.9
Post by: sdtom on Friday 20 March 2015, 22:19
I went ahead and downloaded from the google site. I have this on a Marco Polo and will play both to determine which I like better. Thanks for the tip.
Tom
Title: Re: Miaskovsky Silentium, Op.9
Post by: jerfilm on Saturday 21 March 2015, 00:37
Also to listen to on Spotify:  https://play.spotify.com/search/miaskovsky%20silentium (https://play.spotify.com/search/miaskovsky%20silentium)

J
Title: Re: Miaskovsky Silentium, Op.9
Post by: sdtom on Saturday 21 March 2015, 13:40
That is the same recording Jerry and having to listen to it on my computer is not a pleasant experience. I transfer files to a CD and listen to them that way. The sound quality through my ancient stereo system is far better.
Tom :)
Title: Re: Miaskovsky Silentium, Op.9
Post by: sdtom on Saturday 21 March 2015, 13:56
I just started listening to my Marco Polo #8.223302 with the Czecho-Slovak Radio Symphony Orchestra and the first thing I noticed is the timing is 27 minutes compared to 18, quite a difference. I can also tell you that the sound of the newer one is far superior. Can anyone shed light on this time difference?
Tom :)
Title: Re: Miaskovsky Silentium, Op.9
Post by: eschiss1 on Tuesday 24 March 2015, 04:27
a full score downloadable in the US and Canada is available here (http://imslp.org/wiki/Silentium,_Op.9_%28Myaskovsky,_Nikolay%29). (Not yet in EU-related copyright zones; the composer died too recently.) The reason might be clearer on reading through the score with both recordings; I don't know what else to suggest. (It seems composed 1909-10, premiered 1911, published ca.1925-28 or so. Inspired I think by "The Raven" or something else by Poe? I forget again, unfortunately...)
Title: Re: Miaskovsky Silentium, Op.9
Post by: sdtom on Tuesday 24 March 2015, 15:20
It was from the poem "The Raven" and I had the opportunity to review it https://sdtom.wordpress.com/2007/05/18/silencemiaskovsky/ (https://sdtom.wordpress.com/2007/05/18/silencemiaskovsky/). I will download the score and try and figure out what was cut from the newer Botstein reading. Will keep you posted.
Tom :)
Title: Re: Miaskovsky Silentium, Op.9
Post by: Gareth Vaughan on Tuesday 24 March 2015, 20:00
I am sorry to contradict you, but I don't know why you should think this piece has anything to do with The Raven. It is called "Silentium" - Silence - after a short tale (more of a prose poem really) by Poe of the same name. The text of this, in German, is printed in the published score. No wonder you couldn't detect any tapping of the raven's beak.
Title: Re: Miaskovsky Silentium, Op.9
Post by: sdtom on Tuesday 24 March 2015, 22:37
Miaskovsky wrote his First Symphony in 1908, while still a student at the St. Petersburg Conservatory. The following year he wrote the symphonic poem Silence, based on the poem The Raven by Edgar Allan Poe. First performed in 1911 in Moscow, the work was followed by a second symphonic poem, this time based on Shelley's Alastor. In Poe's famous work the poet sits in his study on a bleak December night, remembering his lost beloved Lenore. There is a tapping at the window, and a black raven steps in, with its oneword, an ominous message, ¡§Nevermore¡§, the only answer to the despairing cries of the poet. Nevermore shall he see Lenore and nevermore shall the shadow of the bird of ill-omen cease to fall on him, depriving him of all hope.

I did a cut and paste from the liner notes which are from the marco polo #8223302. If it's not about the poem I am really confused. Please explain to me.
Tom :)
Title: Re: Miaskovsky Silentium, Op.9
Post by: Alan Howe on Tuesday 24 March 2015, 23:05
From ASO's website:

The poetry of Zinaida Gippius, the siren of Russian symbolism, found its way into a number of Miaskovsky's songs. Among other favorites was the poet Konstantin Bal'mont, an admirer and translator of Edgar Allan Poe. Poe's prose and poetry was known in Russia since the 1860s, but his widespread popularity, which soon reached a cult level, began in the mid-1880s, when a collected edition of Poe tales in Russian translation was published for the first time.

With his innate pessimism, Miaskovsky felt very close to the psychological horrors of Poe's tales. Silentium, in Bal'mont's opinion the best of Poe's tales, captured his imagination in 1908. He mentions in a letter to Prokofiev "a very good plot." He writes in another one that he is "enormously enthralled with the plot," adding that it will be an "orchestral tale" for a very big orchestra and that the whole piece will be devoid of any light note—"only darkness and horror."

Silentium, completed in 1909, was the first of Miaskovsky's compositions to be publicly performed, though a year before his First Sympony was written. The premiere of Silentium took place on June 12, 1911, on the summer stage in Sokolniki (Moscow) under the direction of Konstantin Saradjev, who became a friend and an avid advocate of Miaskovsky's music.

Miaskovsky called Silentium his much-beloved child, and rightly so—it is one of the most sincere and passionate of his pieces, remarkable in its combination of spontaneity, originality and well-thought technical mastery. (The composer polished and edited it up to the mid-1920s). Its twenty-minute one-movement structure follows Poe's tale very closely—a dark parable about the unbearable horror of eternal silence, told through a symbolic figure of a man, tired and full of sorrow, longing to be alone. He sits on a gray rock amidst a sad landscape of desolation, taking in stride terrifying noises and whispers, dangers of wild animals and tremendous storms, but runs in horror when a sudden deadly silence falls, bestowed by demons. The composer realizes all of this with emotional and visual precision in a sonata-like structure, which he, following the narrative, transforms into a natural flow of images both picturesque and deeply touching, creating one of the earliest and finest examples of Russian musical expressionism.

Here's a link to Poe's tale:
http://classiclit.about.com/library/bl-etexts/eapoe/bl-eapoe-silence.htm (http://classiclit.about.com/library/bl-etexts/eapoe/bl-eapoe-silence.htm)
Title: Re: Miaskovsky Silentium, Op.9
Post by: Alan Howe on Tuesday 24 March 2015, 23:18
...seems like the MP notes have got the wrong Poe tale. Wouldn't be the first time that liner notes turned out to be nonsense...
Title: Re: Miaskovsky Silentium, Op.9
Post by: sdtom on Tuesday 24 March 2015, 23:41
You're right on Alan. Now the piece does make some sense to me. Thanks Alan.
Tom
Title: Re: Miaskovsky Silentium, Op.9
Post by: ken on Wednesday 25 March 2015, 02:25
Silence - Symphonic Poem Op. 9 also was released on Russian Disc RDCD 00652-00667 - State Academic Symphony Orchestra - Yevgenii Svetlanov conducting.
Title: Re: Miaskovsky Silentium, Op.9
Post by: Gareth Vaughan on Wednesday 25 March 2015, 10:19
Some of the Marco Polo liner notes were very sloppy and full of errors. I'm not surprised they misled you. Who wrote them? I am familiar with Poe's tales and Silence is one of his most powerful vignettes. It is really a prose poem.
Title: Re: Miaskovsky Silentium, Op.9
Post by: eschiss1 on Wednesday 25 March 2015, 11:35
Can't seem to find my copy offhand, but Worldcat claims Keith Anderson wrote the notes to Stankovsky's recording for Marco Polo (recorded 1990 (Silence/Silentium), 1989 (12th symphony), released 1991), which fits with my memory. Now that the score is available, I'll have to give Silentium another try- I've never been impressed by the work (much or maybe at all), as I remember (unlike so much else by the composer, including especially the near-contemporary 2nd symphony, which seemed- and I expect will probably still seem, even in a better performance and recording of "Silence"- far more "sincere and passionate" a work.)
Title: Re: Miaskovsky Silentium, Op.9
Post by: sdtom on Wednesday 25 March 2015, 13:02
Quote from: Gareth Vaughan on Wednesday 25 March 2015, 10:19
Some of the Marco Polo liner notes were very sloppy and full of errors. I'm not surprised they misled you. Who wrote them? I am familiar with Poe's tales and Silence is one of his most powerful vignettes. It is really a prose poem.

I admit to feeling quite foolish about this now :-[ and will rewrite parts of it. The music notes came from Martin Anderson.
Tom :)
Title: Re: Miaskovsky Silentium, Op.9
Post by: adriano on Wednesday 25 March 2015, 13:35
Yes, Ken.
It is also included in the 16-CD Warner Box of Miaskovsky's complete Symphonies conducted by Svetlanov
Title: Re: Miaskovsky Silentium, Op.9
Post by: Alan Howe on Wednesday 25 March 2015, 14:57
QuoteMartin Anderson

or Keith Anderson?
Title: Re: Miaskovsky Silentium, Op.9
Post by: Gareth Vaughan on Wednesday 25 March 2015, 18:15
Keith Anderson, I feel sure. I doubt Martin would have made such a mistake.
Title: Re: Miaskovsky Silentium, Op.9
Post by: Alan Howe on Wednesday 25 March 2015, 19:16
Quite. Martin is meticulous.
Title: Re: Miaskovsky Silentium, Op.9
Post by: sdtom on Wednesday 25 March 2015, 19:46
sorry again it was Keith
Tom
Title: Re: Miaskovsky Silentium, Op.9
Post by: sdtom on Wednesday 25 March 2015, 20:12
I wondered where I got the name Martin and when I returned to look at the liner notes I discovered the producer was Martin Sauer the line directly above Keith Anderson.  I've sure made a mess of this one. Back to my Graener Symphony in D minor which by the way has an error also in the liner notes.
Tom :)
Title: Re: Miaskovsky Silentium, Op.9
Post by: Alan Howe on Wednesday 25 March 2015, 20:25
Thanks, Tom. Not to worry.
Title: Re: Miaskovsky Silentium, Op.9
Post by: adriano on Thursday 26 March 2015, 07:18
Poe wrote not only a short story (he calls it "A Fable") entitled "Silentium", but also a Sonnet of the same title. It's about "a two-fold Silence - sea and shore - Body and soul".
Title: Re: Miaskovsky Silentium, Op.9
Post by: Alan Howe on Thursday 26 March 2015, 07:56
I nearly linked to the sonnet before realising it was the tale that Miaskovsky used.
Title: Re: Miaskovsky Silentium, Op.9
Post by: sdtom on Thursday 26 March 2015, 14:20
Quote from: Alan Howe on Wednesday 25 March 2015, 20:25
Thanks, Tom. Not to worry.

I appreciate that. I want all of the forum members to know how much I appreciate this site. I've been interested in classical music for nearly sixty years but lately because of this site an entire new world of composers is open to me I never realized existed. Just this year it's been Rudorff, Hoffmann, Witt, and Graener which would have never happened had it not been for this site.
Tom :)
Title: Re: Miaskovsky Silentium, Op.9
Post by: Alan Howe on Thursday 26 March 2015, 19:15
And we appreciate your presence here, Tom.