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The Music => Recordings & Broadcasts => Topic started by: Alan Howe on Wednesday 29 April 2015, 08:02

Title: Kalliwoda Violin Concertos
Post by: Alan Howe on Wednesday 29 April 2015, 08:02
...plus three overtures forthcoming from cpo:
https://www.jpc.de/jpcng/cpo/detail/-/art/Jan-Vaclav-Kalivoda-1801-1866-Violinkonzerte/hnum/4947232 (https://www.jpc.de/jpcng/cpo/detail/-/art/Jan-Vaclav-Kalivoda-1801-1866-Violinkonzerte/hnum/4947232)
Title: Re: Kalliwoda Violin Concertos
Post by: Mark Thomas on Wednesday 29 April 2015, 08:10
Now that is good news. Good oh!
Title: Re: Kalliwoda Violin Concertos
Post by: izdawiz on Wednesday 29 April 2015, 18:17
Oh My!  :o I'll receive it ~! very good news indeed .. his Sting Quartets were really nice with main emphasis on the 1st Violin.. give me confidence that the Violin Concertos will be substantial .. Fingers crossed..
Title: Re: Kalliwoda Violin Concertos
Post by: Alan Howe on Wednesday 29 April 2015, 20:46
I don't have particularly high expectations, but it's a must-buy for me nevertheless. Both works are designated 'Concertino': Op.15 in E major dates from 1844 and Op.133 in A major dates from 1851. So are we dealing here with rather insignificant short pieces or miniature jewels??
Title: Re: Kalliwoda Violin Concertos
Post by: Mark Thomas on Wednesday 29 April 2015, 22:07
They're coupled with three overtures which, on Kalliwoda's previous form, probably won't amount to more than 30 minutes in total. So the two "Concertinos" should also total at least that, unless cpo are going to be offering very poor value for money. IMSLP has parts for the Op.10 (http://imslp.org/wiki/Concertino_for_Violin_No.1,_Op.15_%28Kalliwoda,_Johann_Wenzel%29), which is through-composed in three sections:

I. Allegro maestoso - II. Allegretto - Minore - Magiore - Allegro vivace - III. Rondo: Allegretto grazioso - Più mosso

The solo violin part has only eight pages, so it's not a large-scale piece. IMSLP also has scores for the three overtures, none of which look to be substantial pieces either.
Title: Re: Kalliwoda Violin Concertos
Post by: mikehopf on Wednesday 29 April 2015, 22:43
At last!!!!
Title: Re: Kalliwoda Violin Concertos
Post by: sdtom on Wednesday 29 April 2015, 23:43
Something I need to look into?
Tom
Title: Re: Kalliwoda Violin Concertos
Post by: Alan Howe on Wednesday 29 April 2015, 23:50
Sure - if you like small-scale early-romantic violin concertos.
Title: Re: Kalliwoda Violin Concertos
Post by: JimL on Thursday 30 April 2015, 05:24
Looking over Kalliwoda's output I'm wondering if he DID produce any large-scale violin concertos.  They all seem to be concertinos...
Title: Re: Kalliwoda Violin Concertos
Post by: Alan Howe on Thursday 30 April 2015, 07:57
Toskey confirms that he didn't.
Title: Re: Kalliwoda Violin Concertos
Post by: eschiss1 on Friday 01 May 2015, 22:27
Op.9 is described by the composer as a concerto (whatever Mr. Toskey says), so he seems to have written one. Whether that is objectively a good description I don't know. The solo violin part- all IMSLP has, anyway - is 11 pages. (The Kalliwoda Nachlass @ BLB lists the 1 concerto, 5 concertinos (and a 6th with only piano accompaniment, no orchestra- Op.151), and various other solo works for violin and orchestra published and in manuscript (including a Concertstück in manuscript), and 4 works for 2 violins and orchestra besides (along with the rondo for flute, concertino and divertimento for oboe, and other concertante works for other instruments.))
Title: Re: Kalliwoda Violin Concertos
Post by: Alan Howe on Friday 01 May 2015, 22:40
Toskey suggests that these are all short-ish pieces, whatever their title.
Title: Re: Kalliwoda Violin Concertos
Post by: eschiss1 on Friday 01 May 2015, 22:46
Fair enough; I didn't claim they were vast symphony-concertos :) However, the freedom of form/fantasia-quality also typically associated with the concertino (and which I'm guessing is present in Kalliwoda's actual 6 concertinos) is lacking from Op.9, which is in the standard 3, non-connected, movements (without even the "attacca" Beethoven "allows" himself in several of his grand concerti...)
Title: Re: Kalliwoda Violin Concertos
Post by: Gareth Vaughan on Friday 01 May 2015, 23:38
According to the catalog, Eric, while the BLB does not seem to have an Orchestral Partitur for the 6th Concertino, it does have a set of parts.
Title: Re: Kalliwoda Violin Concertos
Post by: eschiss1 on Saturday 02 May 2015, 01:21
... interesting. Thank you. The Nachlass-Verzeichnis seems to have nodded a bit Homerically...
Title: Re: Kalliwoda Violin Concertos
Post by: Alan Howe on Tuesday 09 June 2015, 16:34
Violin Concertino No.5 in A minor Op.133 (pub.1844) is an interesting work. Stylistically it seems to look both backwards and forwards at the same time.

BTW: there is a typical cpo mess-up over the contents of the CD: the rear insert has it correct, but the booklet is in error over tracks 5-8. The text itself is correct. They really must improve their proofreading of these basic details...
Title: Re: Kalliwoda Violin Concertos
Post by: eschiss1 on Tuesday 09 June 2015, 17:34
I want to be, try to be, forgiving of the length of time cpo takes to release these things, but it gets harder and harder precisely because of that, actually. By my lights they should feel free to delay a little more and get it -right-.
Title: Re: Kalliwoda Violin Concertos
Post by: Alan Howe on Tuesday 09 June 2015, 18:03
I could do what they need to do in five minutes. I mean, how difficult can it be to get the booklet and rear insert details to line up...?
Title: Re: Kalliwoda Violin Concertos
Post by: eschiss1 on Tuesday 09 June 2015, 22:01
well, +better translations, more accuracy (their original-language booklet notes are often, I admit without hesitation, among the better-to-best, and the inclusion of music examples and essays always appreciated - by me anyway. Anycase they're an excellent label relatively speaking imhonesto, but - ah well.)
Title: Re: Kalliwoda Violin Concertos
Post by: Alan Howe on Tuesday 09 June 2015, 22:13
The translation's much better this time. They seemed to have employed a native English-speaker - at last!