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The Music => Recordings & Broadcasts => Topic started by: Alan Howe on Friday 18 December 2015, 17:59

Title: Charles O'Brien Orchestral music vol.2
Post by: Alan Howe on Friday 18 December 2015, 17:59
...forthcoming from Toccata:
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Title: Re: Charles O'Brien Orchestral music vol.2
Post by: Mark Thomas on Friday 18 December 2015, 22:23
Excellent! I was mightily impressed with the first CD is this series, so I hope that the shorter works on this CD live up to the standard of the fine Symphony on the first one.
Title: Re: Charles O'Brien Orchestral music vol.2
Post by: sdtom on Tuesday 15 March 2016, 13:14
just got a download of this release in the continuing series. To me O'Brien is a nice find.
Tom
Title: Re: Charles O'Brien Orchestral music vol.2
Post by: Alan Howe on Tuesday 15 March 2016, 15:49
It's a nice CD. No more.
Title: Re: Charles O'Brien Orchestral music vol.2
Post by: sdtom on Wednesday 16 March 2016, 01:17
You speak in mystery Alan. What did you like and not like.
Tom
Title: Re: Charles O'Brien Orchestral music vol.2
Post by: Alan Howe on Wednesday 16 March 2016, 07:47
I liked the whole CD. But there was nothing that really grabbed me - unlike the Symphony on vol.1.
Title: Re: Charles O'Brien Orchestral music vol.2
Post by: Mark Thomas on Wednesday 16 March 2016, 08:52
I completely agree. It's all rather bland. Neither of the overtures To Spring and The Minstrel's Curse pack the punch of the earlier disc's Ellangowen Overture, never mind the Symphony. Although they are very well orchestrated they're both way over-long; at 25 minutes The Minstrel's Curse in particular stretches its material to gossamer thinness. I know that it's an early piece which O'Brien never got around to editing but, whilst I wouldn't normally advocate this practice, I think it would have benefited from some pretty drastic cuts to show it off at its best here. The two dances are well done but slight, and the three Scottish Scenes are attractive genre pieces which are orchestrations by O'Brien of piano pieces available on Toccata's earlier CD of his piano music. Although I'm not sorry I bought this second CD, I certainly won't be playing it with the frequency that I will the first.
Title: Re: Charles O'Brien Orchestral music vol.2
Post by: Alan Howe on Wednesday 16 March 2016, 12:36
Bland's the word.
Title: Re: Charles O'Brien Orchestral music vol.2
Post by: sdtom on Friday 18 March 2016, 21:54
We appear to be listening to different CD's as I found the CD to my liking.
Title: Re: Charles O'Brien Orchestral music vol.2
Post by: Alan Howe on Friday 18 March 2016, 22:09
I didn't say I didn't like it. Just that it didn't grab me.
Title: Re: Charles O'Brien Orchestral music vol.2
Post by: sdtom on Saturday 19 March 2016, 16:47
You used the word bland which is dull or tasteless and not my opinion of the works on this CD. "Moorland," from the Scottish Scenes has a familiar sound of something Miavosky, the brass chords in particular, might write. Do you hear this Alan? I think that this is the strongest work on the selection Martin came up with.
Tom
Title: Re: Charles O'Brien Orchestral music vol.2
Post by: Alan Howe on Saturday 19 March 2016, 17:46
Nope, sorry. Didn't make much impression.
Title: Re: Charles O'Brien Orchestral music vol.2
Post by: Mark Thomas on Saturday 19 March 2016, 17:46
Actually, Tom, it was me that used the word "bland", and Alan quoted what I wrote. I'm afraid that I do find the music on this CD bland, which I see is defined as meaning "lacking strong features or characteristics and therefore uninteresting". That is in my opinion a pretty good description of the music here. However, it's just my opinion and I do, of course, respect yours.
Title: Re: Charles O'Brien Orchestral music vol.2
Post by: sdtom on Tuesday 22 March 2016, 12:29
The reason why I like this forum so much is we can disagree. Hopefully sales will go well and this fine unsung will get recognition he deserves.
Title: Re: Charles O'Brien Orchestral music vol.2
Post by: sdtom on Tuesday 29 March 2016, 15:34
https://sdtom.wordpress.com/2016/03/26/charles-obrien-orchestral-music-volume-two/ (https://sdtom.wordpress.com/2016/03/26/charles-obrien-orchestral-music-volume-two/)

My take of the O'Brien piece on my blog
Tom
Title: Re: Charles O'Brien Orchestral music vol.2
Post by: BerlinExpat on Wednesday 30 March 2016, 22:09
I'm with you on this one, Tom. I've played the CD four times since it arrived last Saturday and feel the music is better than some other unsungs that have left less of an impression on me. It may not get played for another year now, but I will definitely return to it.
Title: Re: Charles O'Brien Orchestral music vol.2
Post by: sdtom on Thursday 31 March 2016, 01:28
Glad that Martin Anderson from Toccata has made these recordings available to us.
Title: Re: Charles O'Brien Orchestral music vol.2
Post by: Alan Howe on Thursday 31 March 2016, 10:43
Oh, me too. It's just that I can think of better repertoire as yet unrecorded commercially. Wilhelm Berger's 2nd Symphony comes to mind...
Title: Re: Charles O'Brien Orchestral music vol.2
Post by: sdtom on Friday 01 April 2016, 01:17
Perhaps he will turn to Berger?
Title: Re: Charles O'Brien Orchestral music vol.2
Post by: Alan Howe on Friday 01 April 2016, 09:27
The orchestra/conductor are certainly good enough. They have made a splendid job of the two O'Brien CDs.
Title: Re: Charles O'Brien Orchestral music vol.2
Post by: sdtom on Saturday 02 April 2016, 02:00
Both the conductor Mann, who also writes good liner notes, and the Liepaja Symphony are quite good and as you know they've made a believer of me.
Tom :)