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The Music => Recordings & Broadcasts => Topic started by: thalbergmad on Monday 07 November 2016, 20:21

Title: Chopin/Dreyschock Etude Op.10 No.12
Post by: thalbergmad on Monday 07 November 2016, 20:21
A bit of light hearted fun.

https://youtu.be/LqHz0OvcfVA   (https://youtu.be/LqHz0OvcfVA)

Always wondered what this sounded like.

Clara would not be amused.

Thal
Title: Re: Chopin/Dreyschock Etude Op.10 No.12
Post by: Gareth Vaughan on Monday 07 November 2016, 21:25
There is also this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=svjhEyqaGxs (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=svjhEyqaGxs)

and, bizarrely, this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MlSdpT68rnk (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MlSdpT68rnk)
Title: Re: Chopin/Dreyschock Etude Op.10 No.12
Post by: chill319 on Saturday 12 November 2016, 05:53
I wonder if Godowsky ever played this. Does anyone know if Liszt's Chopin rewrites (for example, the Sonata in B minor) are recorded?
Title: Re: Chopin/Dreyschock Etude Op.10 No.12
Post by: Mark Thomas on Saturday 12 November 2016, 07:58
An impressive party trick maybe, but musically it is just awful!
Title: Re: Chopin/Dreyschock Etude Op.10 No.12
Post by: Gareth Vaughan on Saturday 12 November 2016, 10:08
Domingo makes the best case for it because he doesn't play everything in the left hand in octaves. He makes some musical choices. It's technically very impressive but musically very dubious. However, now we've heard it and know that Dreyschock might at least have done it.
Title: Re: Chopin/Dreyschock Etude Op.10 No.12
Post by: Jonathan on Sunday 13 November 2016, 11:59
Interesting!  I had often wondered what it might have sounded like...

Chill319, as far as I know the Liszt variants for the Chopin Etudes or the B minor sonata haven't been recorded or even published.  Maybe the New Liszt Edition might get around to it eventually?
Title: Re: Chopin/Dreyschock Etude Op.10 No.12
Post by: eschiss1 on Sunday 13 November 2016, 12:42
Did not know of those variants but I now see them at Henselt Library e.g. Can't find videos or videos of the Op.58 that mention the use of the Liszt variant finale bars being used, though maybe I'll have to listen to various recordings of Op.58 or of the etudes to find out rather than read; will see if I can find anything?... that's interesting. (I also wonder if anyone uses von Bülow's suggested tweaks to Beethoven's Op.106, e.g., in practice...)
Title: Re: Chopin/Dreyschock Etude Op.10 No.12
Post by: chill319 on Wednesday 16 November 2016, 05:12
I looked closely at Liszt's version of the B-minor finale some years back. IIRC he made no structural or harmonic changes, but the textural and voicing changes were substantial.
Title: Re: Chopin/Dreyschock Etude Op.10 No.12
Post by: eschiss1 on Wednesday 16 November 2016, 11:28
Spelling of Dreyscock is missing an "h". (Three roosters?)
Title: Re: Chopin/Dreyschock Etude Op.10 No.12
Post by: Mark Thomas on Wednesday 16 November 2016, 15:09
No chicken jokes here, Eric. I've corrected the thread title, thanks...