Unsung Composers

The Music => Recordings & Broadcasts => Topic started by: Alan Howe on Monday 31 December 2018, 20:57

Title: Julius Bittner Symphony No.1 etc.
Post by: Alan Howe on Monday 31 December 2018, 20:57
...forthcoming from Toccata Classics, coupled with his symphonic poem, Vaterland, performed by the Siberian Symphony Orchestra under Dmitry Vasilyev:
https://toccataclassics.com/pipeline/ (https://toccataclassics.com/pipeline/)
Title: Re: Julius Bittner Symphony No.1 etc.
Post by: Gareth Vaughan on Monday 31 December 2018, 23:08
Very exciting.
Title: Re: Julius Bittner Symphony No.1 etc.
Post by: Alan Howe on Monday 31 December 2018, 23:13
The Symphony dates from 1923; Vaterland from 1915.
Title: Re: Julius Bittner Symphony No.1 etc.
Post by: Gareth Vaughan on Monday 31 December 2018, 23:17
Incidentally, the article on Bittner in Wikipedia is wrong about the Austrian Dances, one of the orchestral works he wrote. It states they are for 2 pianos and orchestra. This is clearly an error: the score is available in a version for orchestra and for piano 4-hands. Full score and parts are in Fleisher and there is no sign of a piano (let alone two) in the list of parts. The Symphony No. 2 and the other symphonic poem (apparently he wrote two) must remain in MSS - at least, they are not listed on WorldCat.
Title: Re: Julius Bittner Symphony No.1 etc.
Post by: eschiss1 on Thursday 03 January 2019, 01:57
Das Lied von der Bergen was published at least in reduction by Leuckart in 1930. ONB has a copy of that. There's also at least 2 string quartets, published 1913 and 1916. I have of the 1st symphony (info also from ONB iirc?) "©1923, photo-lithograph ("Wien, den 21. Mai 1923."), Universal Edition" but that just may say that the ms copy was made in 1923, unless we know that the original score was composed that year...

(Actually, Bergen's full score is at St Pancras - OCLC 498259589 - so I disagree that it's not listed @ Worldcat ? )
Title: Re: Julius Bittner Symphony No.1 etc.
Post by: Alan Howe on Thursday 03 January 2019, 07:54
A small correction, if I may: it's 'Das Lied von den Bergen'.
Title: Re: Julius Bittner Symphony No.1 etc.
Post by: Gareth Vaughan on Thursday 03 January 2019, 07:55
You are quite right, Eric. My mistake. Symphony No. 2, however, remains elusive. Dare one hope that an edition is being prepared from the ms. for Toccata's Volume 2?
Title: Re: Julius Bittner Symphony No.1 etc.
Post by: Mark Thomas on Thursday 03 January 2019, 08:00
I only know Bittner from his 1911 opera Der Bergsee, and it's late-romantic lusciousness encourages me to look forward to this release. As to volume 2, there are a number of volume 1s in Toccata's catalogue that didn't progress to volume 2, presumably because sales of the first didn't justify a sequel.
Title: Re: Julius Bittner Symphony No.1 etc.
Post by: M. Yaskovsky on Thursday 03 January 2019, 09:24
Yeah, like https://toccataclassics.com/product/shebalin-orchestral-music-1/ which has, to date, not gone any further. But you never know. Could be mr. Anderson keeps finished recordings in the pocket until he thinks it's time to release them? cpo records has that kind of 'habit' too.
Title: Re: Julius Bittner Symphony No.1 etc.
Post by: Gareth Vaughan on Thursday 03 January 2019, 10:18
But, to be fair on Martin, Toccata has produced many 2nd and 3rd volumes in series. I guess it's a question of money. A series may be planned but if the donors pull out after Vol. 1, it can go no further.
Title: Re: Julius Bittner Symphony No.1 etc.
Post by: Alan Howe on Thursday 03 January 2019, 10:38
It'll certainly be a question of money. In any case, we should praise Martin for his enterprise in bringing out all that unsung repertoire - even if follow-up volumes don't seem to materialise.
Title: Re: Julius Bittner Symphony No.1 etc.
Post by: eschiss1 on Thursday 03 January 2019, 11:51
Agreed.
Title: Re: Julius Bittner Symphony No.1 etc.
Post by: Mark Thomas on Thursday 03 January 2019, 12:06
Oh, I agree too. I was just counselling caution on the prospect of further volumes.
Title: Re: Julius Bittner Symphony No.1 etc.
Post by: Alan Howe on Monday 11 February 2019, 22:31
Further details and audio samples here:
https://toccataclassics.com/product/julius-bittner-orchestral-music-volume-one/ (https://toccataclassics.com/product/julius-bittner-orchestral-music-volume-one/)
Title: Re: Julius Bittner Symphony No.1 etc.
Post by: Mark Thomas on Tuesday 12 February 2019, 08:57
Firstly, plaudits to Toccata for its amazingly generous policy of allowing one to hear the whole CD online before buying. Secondly, and taking advantage of that, it's fascinating to hear these two works from an obscure composer who I only knew from ancient recordings of his two operas Der Bergsee and Der Musikant. Anyone familiar with the late-romantic rich orchestration and spiky melodies of those works will know what to expect from Bittner and, on the whole, that's what this symphony and symphonic poem serve up, although at first hearing there's an urgency and tension in them which is new, although that could be the performances of course. The sonorous slow movement of the Symphony No.1 is most reminiscent of Bruckner, as one might expect, but otherwise Bittner's style doesn't lend itself to the "sounds like" game. These are clearly early 20th century works, grounded in the romantic tradition but with edgier orchestration, and I'm looking forward to this fascinating release greatly.
Title: Re: Julius Bittner Symphony No.1 etc.
Post by: brendangcarroll on Monday 18 February 2019, 19:31
It is now also available on Amazon as pre-order...

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Bittner-Symphony-Siberian-Orchestra-conductor/dp/B07N3S5WHX/ref=sr_1_1?s=music&ie=UTF8&qid=1550517648&sr=1-1&keywords=Julius+Bittner
Title: Re: Julius Bittner Symphony No.1 etc.
Post by: Mark Thomas on Friday 15 March 2019, 22:32
The download is currently available direct from Toccata at the bargain price of £5.70 for the mp3s.
Title: Re: Julius Bittner Symphony No.1 etc.
Post by: Alan Howe on Monday 25 March 2019, 17:15
A very nice find indeed. And the SiberianSO are a very fine band. Kudos to Martin Anderson for this unexpected and adventurous release. Anyone who likes, say, Franz Schmidt, should take to this...

This combination of conductor and orchestra would make a great job of Wilhelm Berger's Symphony No.2, I'm sure...
Title: Re: Julius Bittner Symphony No.1 etc.
Post by: Mark Thomas on Monday 25 March 2019, 18:12
Yes, I agree on all counts as regards the music, although I'm not surprised by it's quality as that mirrors the operas which are already available in historic recordings. The big surprise for me is the quality of the Russian performers, who I assume are much cheaper to hire than western European orchestras. Martin must be very pleased with that too!
Title: Re: Julius Bittner Symphony No.1 etc.
Post by: Alan Howe on Monday 25 March 2019, 20:47
Martin's Omsk (Siberia) and Liepāja (Latvia) orchestras have done sterling work for him.