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The Music => Composers & Music => Topic started by: Jonathan on Saturday 26 January 2019, 12:13

Title: MDT Classics is no more
Post by: Jonathan on Saturday 26 January 2019, 12:13
Hi All,
I've read this morning on another forum that MDT Classics has gone into receivership.  Very sad news.

Not sure where the best place for this posting is so if it is in the wrong place, please feel free to move it!

Title: Re: MDT Classics is no more
Post by: Gareth Vaughan on Saturday 26 January 2019, 12:45
That's sad. I used to but a lot of CDs through them. Very reliable.
Title: Re: MDT Classics is no more
Post by: Mark Thomas on Saturday 26 January 2019, 13:19
The web site is certainly down. What a shame. Just shows the pressures that there are on CD retailers these days, although I was reading only the other day that "classical music sales" (whatever that may mean) were substantially up last year.
Title: Re: MDT Classics is no more
Post by: TerraEpon on Saturday 26 January 2019, 13:25
Yeah, even though I'm in the US they were often the cheapest when making larger orders. All that's left now is ImportCDs really.

Man I long for the days of AllBooks (I think it was called)....heh.
Title: Re: MDT Classics is no more
Post by: hyperdanny on Saturday 26 January 2019, 16:45
I had noticed that the website had been down for the last week..too bad, I was about to make a rather substantial order, my last before Brexit...
Title: Re: MDT Classics is no more
Post by: Alan Howe on Saturday 26 January 2019, 17:16
I had assumed it was just a website problem, but their phone's been unavailable too. Of course, there's always Europadisc...

Here's confirmation of MDT's demise:
https://www.thegazette.co.uk/notice/3193757 (https://www.thegazette.co.uk/notice/3193757)
Title: Re: MDT Classics is no more
Post by: M. Yaskovsky on Monday 28 January 2019, 10:27
What does receivership mean? The same as bankruptcy? I've a pending order with them...
Title: Re: MDT Classics is no more
Post by: Alan Howe on Monday 28 January 2019, 12:03
I'm sorry to hear that. Does this help?>>
https://www.realbusinessrescue.co.uk/articles/business-insolvency/administration-and-receivership (https://www.realbusinessrescue.co.uk/articles/business-insolvency/administration-and-receivership)
Title: Re: MDT Classics is no more
Post by: Richard Moss on Monday 28 January 2019, 19:45
Presto Classical also offer CDs  (and downloads) at competitive prices (similar to Amazon) and I believe our dear friends at MusicWeb are also into the business of supplying CDs too. Not trying to start a list here of CD suppliers, just to broaden out a bit from Alan's comment.

Sad as it is to see them go (I too have bought quite a few from them in the past), we still have a lively market (for now anyway) to choose from.

Cheers

Richard
Title: Re: MDT Classics is no more
Post by: Alan Howe on Monday 28 January 2019, 22:07
Presto are too pricey, in my experience. Europadisc are more competitive in general. I rarely buy from Amazon themselves - marketplace sellers are cheaper.
Title: Re: MDT Classics is no more
Post by: StCheryl on Tuesday 29 January 2019, 04:42
Does anyone have any idea how to retrieve wish lists that were on the site? I had them email my old one (going back 10 years with roughly 100 items on it) several months ago when the site changed, but trashed the email when I reentered all the things on the list. Now I have no idea how to get the wishlist from the old MDT site, or from gmail? Any ideas? Thanks.
Title: Re: MDT Classics is no more
Post by: Mark Thomas on Tuesday 29 January 2019, 07:27
The web site seems to permanently down, the company seems to have ceased trading and be in liquidation. Sorry, but I'd say that your chances are very slim unless the business is rescued, which looks unlikely. It might be worth contacting the liquidator (see this: https://www.thegazette.co.uk/notice/3193757 (https://www.thegazette.co.uk/notice/3193757)), but I doubt that they'd give it any priority as they're generally only interested in financial matters.
Title: Re: MDT Classics is no more
Post by: tpaloj on Tuesday 29 January 2019, 08:48
Quote from: StCheryl on Tuesday 29 January 2019, 04:42
Does anyone have any idea how to retrieve wish lists that were on the site? I had them email my old one (going back 10 years with roughly 100 items on it) several months ago when the site changed, but trashed the email when I reentered all the things on the list. Now I have no idea how to get the wishlist from the old MDT site, or from gmail? Any ideas? Thanks.

Defunct websites are archived from time to time. You can try accessing snapshots of the pages via archive.org and see if it's possible to find your list there (if it's through a customer account page this likely won't work). See the link:

https://web.archive.org/web/*/https://www.mdt.co.uk/ (https://web.archive.org/web/*/https://www.mdt.co.uk/)
Title: Re: MDT Classics is no more
Post by: StCheryl on Tuesday 29 January 2019, 17:30
Thanks for your help with this. I will try the archived website idea. And maybe if I contact the liquidator and cry I can get 1 minute  of access to the site... :D
Title: Re: MDT Classics is no more
Post by: Richard Moss on Wednesday 30 January 2019, 10:58
Alan,

Tks for the update that Europadisc are probably cheaper - worth knowing for any future purchases.

Cheers

Richard
Title: Re: MDT Classics is no more
Post by: rosman20 on Thursday 31 January 2019, 08:47
I use many different sites in countries to purchase CDs.  I'm so sad about MDT, which was a great one in the UK, and I also have lost a wish list of about 100 items.  I have been adding to it for so long, and assumed it would stay, as the MDT website was just changed.  UGH!
Title: Re: MDT Classics is no more
Post by: Alan Howe on Thursday 31 January 2019, 10:13
The lesson is: write everything down on paper. I've learned this from bitter experience too.
Title: Re: MDT Classics is no more
Post by: eschiss1 on Sunday 24 February 2019, 14:45
I used MDT not to buy CDs but to track upcoming new recordings not out yet, especially of all sorts of unusual classical (of course, if I'd bought a CD or two from them they might have lasted longer, moreso if more people who think and act as I do did...) Fortunately for me selfishly there are other sites similar to MDT that still provide this service, it seems.
Title: Re: MDT Classics is no more
Post by: Alan Howe on Sunday 24 February 2019, 16:38
I bought the vast majority of the CDs I wanted from them; their prices were competitive and service excellent. Still, for us in the UK, at least there's Europadisc and Presto...

In five years' time, will Amazon have the monopoly, though?
Title: Re: MDT Classics is no more
Post by: eschiss1 on Sunday 24 February 2019, 16:49
No idea. Personally I suspect most of the predictions I made about 2019 in 2014 were extremely wrong, so I won't try to guess.
Title: Re: MDT Classics is no more
Post by: TerraEpon on Monday 25 February 2019, 01:50
Well to me it seems that the huge push toward large box sets (be they be for composers, orchestras, conductors or performers) in the past few years far beyond those that have been in previous years is a clear sign they are aiming to, as it were, close the book on releasing (past?) stuff on CD. Just my own gut feeling, especially since apparently a lot of the CD pressing plants have shut down recently.
Title: Re: MDT Classics is no more
Post by: Alan Howe on Monday 25 February 2019, 10:27
Oh, I'm sure it'll be a download-only industry in a few years' time. Mind you, sales of e-readers seem to have slowed, with people continuing to prefer actual, physical books, so who knows...
Title: Re: MDT Classics is no more
Post by: Mark Thomas on Monday 25 February 2019, 11:18
You're right, I'm sure, although UK classical CD sales rose by 10% last year (https://www.gramophone.co.uk/classical-music-news/uk-classical-recordings-saw-10-per-cent-rise-in-sales-last-year). Unfortunately CD sales generally have plummeted across the world, so the end is undoubtedly nigh.
Title: Re: MDT Classics is no more
Post by: Ilja on Tuesday 26 February 2019, 15:17
Quote from: Alan Howe on Monday 25 February 2019, 10:27
Oh, I'm sure it'll be a download-only industry in a few years' time. Mind you, sales of e-readers seem to have slowed, with people continuing to prefer actual, physical books, so who knows...
The relation between book and e-book sales has always been less than straightforward, and e-book sales are still on the rise. The decline in sales of specialized e-readers is real, but this doesn't appear to apply to high-end devices so much as to entry-level readers. Rather than to a newfound fondness for paper books, this is probably more due to the use of ever larger smartphone screens, with screen sizes approaching and sometimes surpassing those of smaller and cheaper e-readers.Bit of a nitpick, sorry. On with music.