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The Music => Recordings & Broadcasts => Topic started by: Christopher on Saturday 09 November 2019, 12:02

Title: Saint-Saëns - a couple of previously unrecorded small works
Post by: Christopher on Saturday 09 November 2019, 12:02
This new Naxos release contains two (as far as I can tell) previously unrecorded Saint-Saëns works:

https://www.naxos.com/catalogue/item.asp?item_code=8.574033 (https://www.naxos.com/catalogue/item.asp?item_code=8.574033)

14.  Andromaque, Act IV: Prélude
17.  Ouverture d'un Opéra - Comique inachevé

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Title: Re: Saint-Saëns - a couple of previously unrecorded small works
Post by: TerraEpon on Saturday 09 November 2019, 13:24
Yeah, I've been wanting a recording of the overture forever. And despite it's late Op. number of 140 it's actually a really early piece.

Also the disc has an "alternative version" of a couple pieces of the Ascanio ballet. Curious is this is the 'Airs de Ballet' that's decently known, or something else.
Title: Re: Saint-Saëns - a couple of previously unrecorded small works
Post by: semloh on Sunday 10 November 2019, 00:16
Thanks for letting us know, Christopher. All new to me, and I suspect it's a 'must buy'!
Title: Re: Saint-Saëns - a couple of previously unrecorded small works
Post by: Christopher on Monday 11 November 2019, 11:32
Actually it looks like the "Andromaque, Act IV: Prélude"  was already recorded on this CD - https://www.amazon.co.uk/Saint-Sa%C3%ABns-Rapsodie-bretonne-Andromaque-algerienne/dp/B000026JLE (https://www.amazon.co.uk/Saint-Sa%C3%ABns-Rapsodie-bretonne-Andromaque-algerienne/dp/B000026JLE) - apologies for the misinformation. 

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But I hope I am right about the other piece!

There's some blurb about the overture here - https://saintsaenscomplete.wordpress.com/2013/05/17/overture-dun-opera-comique-inacheve/ (https://saintsaenscomplete.wordpress.com/2013/05/17/overture-dun-opera-comique-inacheve/)
Title: Re: Saint-Saëns - a couple of previously unrecorded small works
Post by: TerraEpon on Monday 11 November 2019, 13:18
Well huh, I HAVE that CD and somehow forgot to indicate in my list that I have anything from Andromaque.

As far as I know, the overture has never been recorded.
Title: Re: Saint-Saëns - a couple of previously unrecorded small works
Post by: Kevin on Monday 11 November 2019, 13:21
I notice this CD features some music from les barbares, is the whole opera worth hearing?
Title: Re: Saint-Saëns - a couple of previously unrecorded small works
Post by: Christopher on Monday 11 November 2019, 16:29
Quote from: TerraEpon on Monday 11 November 2019, 13:18
Well huh, I HAVE that CD and somehow forgot to indicate in my list that I have anything from Andromaque.

As far as I know, the overture has never been recorded.


Yes, it has been - it's on one of my Saint-Saens CDs (will check when I get home).
Title: Re: Saint-Saëns - a couple of previously unrecorded small works
Post by: TerraEpon on Tuesday 12 November 2019, 01:25
Huh well I'd like to know what disc. Sure it's not the Overture de Fete? (Which is on a disc with La Foi, Phaeton and the Second Symphony)
Title: Re: Saint-Saëns - a couple of previously unrecorded small works
Post by: mjmosca on Wednesday 13 November 2019, 11:31
Kevin S- in regard to Les Barbares, I found that there is allot of very fine music in the score, but the soloist, particularly the tenor and mezzo soprano were very unsatisfactory- the first has a voice too small for the role, without core or any darkness, and the latter wobbles all over the place. It is difficult to enjoy a new work, when the singers have such difficulty. On the other hand, it is unlikely that the opera will receive another recording. Among the operas of Saint-Saens, I find that Henry VIII, Ascanio, Etienne Marcel, and Proserpine to be really great discoveries that could join Samson et Daiila in the repertory as occasional visitors, at least. I also enjoy Helene and The Yellow Princess, both well recorded.
Title: Re: Saint-Saëns - a couple of previously unrecorded small works
Post by: Kevin on Wednesday 13 November 2019, 11:48
Thanks for the heads up mjmosca. It looks like I'll be skipping Les Barbares, just as well because I couldn't find a digital release anywhere. I agree about Henry VIII and Ascanio, the latter might just be his finest opera at least according to me, certainly the one I get the most enjoyment out of.
Title: Re: Saint-Saëns - a couple of previously unrecorded small works
Post by: Christopher on Wednesday 13 November 2019, 22:58
Quote from: TerraEpon on Tuesday 12 November 2019, 01:25
Huh well I'd like to know what disc. Sure it's not the Overture de Fete? (Which is on a disc with La Foi, Phaeton and the Second Symphony)


So huh it turns out that the version I had WAS the one with Orchestre Philharmonique de Monte-Carlo, David Robertson
Title: Re: Saint-Saëns - a couple of previously unrecorded small works
Post by: TerraEpon on Thursday 14 November 2019, 01:23
Sorry -- I said 'the overture hasn't been recorded', referring to Overture d'un Opera Comique inacheve ....sorry for being unclear.
Title: Re: Saint-Saëns - a couple of previously unrecorded small works
Post by: Christopher on Thursday 14 November 2019, 16:44
Quote from: TerraEpon on Saturday 09 November 2019, 13:24
Yeah, I've been wanting a recording of the overture forever. And despite it's late Op. number of 140 it's actually a really early piece.

Also the disc has an "alternative version" of a couple pieces of the Ascanio ballet. Curious is this is the 'Airs de Ballet' that's decently known, or something else.

Hi TerraEpon - which of the Ascanio tracks are alternative, do you know?
Title: Re: Saint-Saëns - a couple of previously unrecorded small works
Post by: TerraEpon on Friday 15 November 2019, 01:48
The two at the end of the disc labeled "Ascanio, Act III: Ballet (alternative version) (excerpts) " -- looking at the liner notes it's very clearly "Airs de ballet d'Ascanio" which is often put on flute discs.
Title: Re: Saint-Saëns - a couple of previously unrecorded small works
Post by: Christopher on Saturday 23 November 2019, 11:26
This CD was released today.