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The Music => Recordings & Broadcasts => Topic started by: eschiss1 on Saturday 15 February 2020, 03:31

Title: New Krommer symphony CD from cpo
Post by: eschiss1 on Saturday 15 February 2020, 03:31
Is this the last one? (For the numbered symphonies; I think he wrote some unnumbered ones too - to be annoying, of course.) Anyhow, cpo announces as due on the 24th this month (https://www.jpc.de/jpcng/cpo/detail/-/art/franz-krommer-symphonien-nr-6-9/hnum/9672526) a disc of Franz Krommer's symphonies 6 (in D, 1823) and 9 (in C, 1830). Since symphony no.8 has been lost for ages, this disc together with symphonies 1-3 and 4, 5 and 7 (the first two of the set) seem to finish the lot. I like what I've heard in this series.

(I just noticed disc listed now, and coincidentally heard one of his concertos in a live broadcast (Op.91 for 2 clarinets) a few hours ago from a Turkish conservatory orchestra on Youtube, nicely played too.  That did feel good...)
Title: Re: New Krommer symphony CD from cpo
Post by: Hector on Saturday 15 February 2020, 12:03
Hoorah! I have very much enjoyed this little series. Only quibble is that Griffiths takes andantes and adagios too quickly and thus loses some cantabile poetry IMHO. He is very good on getting across Krommer's overall musical architecture and motivic development - as he is with Ries.
Title: Re: New Krommer symphony CD from cpo
Post by: eschiss1 on Saturday 15 February 2020, 12:27
Yes. I am very glad cpo has taken up some of these very good-but-overshadowed-by-Beethoven (as who wouldn't be, imho) contemporary symphonists (not in areas where Beethoven was inferior, as in his wind trio music etc. as in earlier Krommer releases eg, but where these composers are in direct competition). I wouldn't mind hearing all of Witt's surviving symphonies rather than just 2 of them, for example (maybe he's blamed for the "Jena" symphony debacle :) )
Title: Re: New Krommer symphony CD from cpo
Post by: TerraEpon on Saturday 15 February 2020, 13:14
Man, yet another CD I'm obligated to get.

It's so great that the CD is dead, because I don't think I could keep up with all these great releases if it were still alive.
Title: Re: New Krommer symphony CD from cpo
Post by: giles.enders on Tuesday 18 February 2020, 12:16
Perhaps a little early for this forum but for anyone who doesn't know Krommer's partitas for wind ensemble, they are delightful and well worth exploring.  And now back to the symphonies !!!
Title: Re: New Krommer symphony CD from cpo
Post by: hyperdanny on Friday 21 February 2020, 08:26
Wonderful news and, without a doubt, a compulsory purchase.
The Krommer set has been a revelation.
Title: Re: New Krommer symphony CD from cpo
Post by: eschiss1 on Friday 03 April 2020, 01:11
Incidentally, symphonies 6, 7 & 9 -have- been published (I didn't think so) - recently :) - by Ries & Erler, in 2015 (no.6) and 2016 (7 & 9).
Title: Re: New Krommer symphony CD from cpo
Post by: Alan Howe on Monday 27 July 2020, 17:16
I've just received the new cpo CD of Symphonies 6 & 9 (which date from 1823 and 1830 respectively). To my mind their most interesting aspect is that they don't sound at all like Beethoven. It's as if Krommer has simply by-passed young Ludwig and attempted to update the classical Symphony for a new century. It's fascinating - and glorious! No.9 was apparently written four months before Krommer's death at the age of 71.

Particularly memorable are the use of woodwind and the 'crunchy' brass writing. Howard Griffiths is an absolute whizz at this corner of the repertoire - he never disappoints. Do get this disc!
Title: Re: New Krommer symphony CD from cpo
Post by: Mark Thomas on Monday 27 July 2020, 22:22
The audio excerpts are really enticing, Alan, thanks for the recommendation. I'll dip my toe in the water, I think....
Title: Re: New Krommer symphony CD from cpo
Post by: Alan Howe on Monday 27 July 2020, 22:40
It's a really exciting pair of performances of very exciting music. If you already have Symphonies 4,5 & 7 you'll know what to expect.
Title: Re: New Krommer symphony CD from cpo
Post by: Mark Thomas on Tuesday 28 July 2020, 10:03
What a revelation Krommer's Ninth Symphony turned out to be! It's clearly music of the early 19th century and yet, as Alan so rightly says, Beethoven's influence is pretty much absent. I suppose the nearest contemporary comparison would be Anton Reicha, but that's not really fair to Krommer who was obviously his own man. The music is vigorous and imaginative both in orchestration and development (in each movement it suddenly goes somewhere I wasn't expecting it to go). Where it perhaps betrays Krommer's late 18th century heritage is the character of his thematic material and the relentless momentum, even in the slow movement. Hector notes that they are taken quite fast by Griffiths, but certainly in this symphony's Adagio that seemed to be entirely appropriate. I'm looking forward to getting to know the other seven symphonies in this series, as Krommer definitely ranks as one of this year's big discoveries and, as usual, I have UC's members to thank for that.
Title: Re: New Krommer symphony CD from cpo
Post by: eschiss1 on Tuesday 28 July 2020, 13:00
It took me a moment to realize that "young Ludwig" referred to the other composer's age relative to Krommer, not at the time of composition. Whoops. Sorry.