Unsung Composers

The Music => Recordings & Broadcasts => Topic started by: Alan Howe on Friday 28 February 2020, 16:57

Title: Miaskovsky 24/Henselt PC/Schmidt 4
Post by: Alan Howe on Friday 28 February 2020, 16:57
...a 2-CD collection with Japanese performers:
https://www.amazon.co.jp/dp/B00851RQ9O/ref=pd_sim_15_2/357-3573153-4866344?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B00851RQ9O&pd_rd_r=484c2daf-8a1e-46a7-92b4-02cda06e24e2&pd_rd_w=E3kpy&pd_rd_wg=AE0ds&pf_rd_p=5f4d3175-5dc7-44e2-b802-86d248efe63b&pf_rd_r=A0S330TYWNKWXN0VK3QF&psc=1&refRID=A0S330TYWNKWXN0VK3QF (https://www.amazon.co.jp/dp/B00851RQ9O/ref=pd_sim_15_2/357-3573153-4866344?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B00851RQ9O&pd_rd_r=484c2daf-8a1e-46a7-92b4-02cda06e24e2&pd_rd_w=E3kpy&pd_rd_wg=AE0ds&pf_rd_p=5f4d3175-5dc7-44e2-b802-86d248efe63b&pf_rd_r=A0S330TYWNKWXN0VK3QF&psc=1&refRID=A0S330TYWNKWXN0VK3QF)

The Osaka Philharmonic are one of Japan's premier orchestras.
Title: Re: Miaskovsky 24/Henselt PC/Schmidt 4
Post by: Martin Eastick on Friday 28 February 2020, 19:04
I thought the excerpts of the Henselt rather pedestrian - certainly rather dull and lacking excitement judging from the short extracts available.
Title: Re: Miaskovsky 24/Henselt PC/Schmidt 4
Post by: Alan Howe on Friday 28 February 2020, 19:19
I'd probably most like to hear the Schmidt.
Title: Re: Miaskovsky 24/Henselt PC/Schmidt 4
Post by: MartinH on Saturday 29 February 2020, 16:31
The Schmidt on that recording is pretty good, better than some out there if not as gut wrenching as others. Played much better than the Moralt.
Title: Re: Miaskovsky 24/Henselt PC/Schmidt 4
Post by: vesteel on Sunday 01 March 2020, 02:29
Hiroshi Kodama and the Osaka Symphony has recorded several obscure works as well. https://www.amazon.co.jp/s?i=music-artist&rh=p_32%3A%E5%85%90%E7%8E%89%E5%AE%8F
Some notable ones inclde Wetz 2, Taneyev 4, Atterberg 6, Glazunov 5, and several others.
Title: Re: Miaskovsky 24/Henselt PC/Schmidt 4
Post by: eschiss1 on Sunday 01 March 2020, 02:46
I think I'll just sit back and enjoy (honestly and sincerely!) the fact that these three works are therefore no longer regarded as obscure :) The Schmidt especially but all 3 deserve to be more often heard after all (and of course I think that of the Myaskovsky, recorded 3 other times now (Naxos, Northern Flowers, Melodiya.))
Title: Re: Miaskovsky 24/Henselt PC/Schmidt 4
Post by: Alan Howe on Sunday 01 March 2020, 09:19
...not obscure, but definitely still unsung?

There's the unknown, the obscure, the unfamilar - all categories of unsung.
Title: Re: Miaskovsky 24/Henselt PC/Schmidt 4
Post by: MartinH on Sunday 01 March 2020, 18:24
Obscure - all three. Only the Schmidt rings a bell with some people, but other than CD collectors no one seems to know it. And I fear Schmidt is going back into the shade. Since the death of Kreizberg no one is performing it anymore. None of the symphonies is on the docket for any orchestra I've researched next season. Myaskovsky is even more rare. Henselt - forget it. Yes, dedicated collectors know these composers, but most orchestral players, audiences, and conductors are still in the dark.
Title: Re: Miaskovsky 24/Henselt PC/Schmidt 4
Post by: eschiss1 on Sunday 01 March 2020, 23:55
Schmidt 4 was performed a fair # times last year, I think, actually...
Title: Re: Miaskovsky 24/Henselt PC/Schmidt 4
Post by: eschiss1 on Monday 02 March 2020, 00:01
and the Bob Cole Conserv. Orch is playing it (sym 4) on 3/28. (And I'm sure others this year.) (Luisi is conducting the Seven Seals with a better-known orchestra meanwhile and Myaskovsky 6 is being performed in March in France iirc.)
Title: Re: Miaskovsky 24/Henselt PC/Schmidt 4
Post by: alberto on Monday 02 March 2020, 11:17
The Schmidt 4 was performed two years ago by Kirill Petrenko and the BPO in Berlin, Salzburg and Luzern (I was at the performance in Luzern).
Title: Re: Miaskovsky 24/Henselt PC/Schmidt 4
Post by: Alan Howe on Monday 02 March 2020, 11:18
Its profile is slowly rising. But it depends on the advocacy of a small number of conductors.
Title: Re: Miaskovsky 24/Henselt PC/Schmidt 4
Post by: eschiss1 on Monday 02 March 2020, 12:25
also : (full, not excerpt) video (https://youtu.be/w_fjFPhrKjw) of Paavo Järvi conducting it on the hr-sinfonieorchester youtube channel from a 27/4/2018 concert. So yep.

Well, yes :D
Title: Re: Miaskovsky 24/Henselt PC/Schmidt 4
Post by: eschiss1 on Monday 02 March 2020, 12:33
as to the Henselt, Warren Cohen and the MusicaNova Orchestra AZ have performed that and uploaded at least part of it, I see. N[ever] s[ay]...
Title: Re: Miaskovsky 24/Henselt PC/Schmidt 4
Post by: Alan Howe on Monday 02 March 2020, 12:56
The Paavo Järvi video is truly wonderful. Thank you, Eric, so much.
Title: Re: Miaskovsky 24/Henselt PC/Schmidt 4
Post by: dhibbard on Monday 02 March 2020, 14:28
Yes thank you !!
Title: Re: Miaskovsky 24/Henselt PC/Schmidt 4
Post by: eschiss1 on Monday 02 March 2020, 15:19
I thought so too. Happy to :)
Title: Re: Miaskovsky 24/Henselt PC/Schmidt 4
Post by: Alan Howe on Tuesday 29 December 2020, 14:40
Kodama's Schmidt 4 leans much more in the direction of Mehta than most other conductors - which is to say that it's more expansive, which I greatly prefer. The only slight drawback is that the sound doesn't open out as much as it might; thus the strings can sound a little under-nourished at times. However, there is plenty of 'punch' when needed. A very fine reading overall.