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The Music => Recordings & Broadcasts => Topic started by: Alan Howe on Friday 08 May 2020, 16:58

Title: Fibich Vol.5 from Naxos
Post by: Alan Howe on Friday 08 May 2020, 16:58
Available in the UK from 12th June:

(https://d1iiivw74516uk.cloudfront.net/eyJidWNrZXQiOiJwcmVzdG8tY292ZXItaW1hZ2VzIiwia2V5IjoiODc4NDk4NC4xLmpwZyIsImVkaXRzIjp7InJlc2l6ZSI6eyJ3aWR0aCI6MzAwfSwianBlZyI6eyJxdWFsaXR5Ijo2NX0sInRvRm9ybWF0IjoianBlZyJ9LCJ0aW1lc3RhbXAiOjE1ODg4NTc1NjR9)

https://www.prestomusic.com/classical/products/8784984--fibich-symphony-no-3 (https://www.prestomusic.com/classical/products/8784984--fibich-symphony-no-3)
Title: Re: Fibich Vol.5 from Naxos
Post by: Joachim Raff on Friday 08 May 2020, 23:09
Even though i welcome the recordings of Fibich's work, i have been disappointed in substandard performances by orchestra/conductor. Its a shame because i think Naxos sound has been top drawer.  I am not going to dismiss this issue containing the 3rd Symphony as i have not sampled it yet. I will say though, its going to be a mighty performance to better Karel Šejna, Czech Philharmonic 1960's recording on Supraphon. I have to find a version with the same intensity and feeling for the piece.
Title: Re: Fibich Vol.5 from Naxos
Post by: Alan Howe on Friday 08 May 2020, 23:17
This CD features a different orchestra, though.
Title: Re: Fibich Vol.5 from Naxos
Post by: Joachim Raff on Saturday 09 May 2020, 19:18
Quote from: Alan Howe on Friday 08 May 2020, 23:17
This CD features a different orchestra, though.

Any ideas why the orchestra has been changed? I have heard of lots of inconsistencies with the Czech National Symphony Orchestra. I know the conductor is well thought of and touted as a rising star.
Title: Re: Fibich Vol.5 from Naxos
Post by: Alan Howe on Saturday 09 May 2020, 20:51
No idea. The orchestra on the first four releases wasn't universally liked by the critics, although MusicWeb applauded them. Anyway, all that matters is quality.
Title: Re: Fibich Vol.5 from Naxos
Post by: Kevin on Sunday 10 May 2020, 10:07
As much as I love Fibich(he's my favourite unsung composer) I'm afraid I won't be getting this. I'm quite happy with the Chandos recordings. Also, I have all the fillers - nothing new for me to sink my teeth in.
Title: Re: Fibich Vol.5 from Naxos
Post by: semloh on Wednesday 13 May 2020, 07:31
Same here, Kevin.
Title: Re: Fibich Vol.5 from Naxos
Post by: Kevin on Friday 12 June 2020, 16:16
I couldn't resist, not when it comes to Fibich. Speaking of just the Symphony(I haven't listened to the other items)the playing of The Janacek Philharmonic is impressive and Stilec brings out tiny details in the orchestration I wasn't aware of before and paces the whole thing quite well. Recorded sound is very vivid. I think my preliminary verdict is it's a winner. I've just got to say what an awesome symphony this is.
Title: Re: Fibich Vol.5 from Naxos
Post by: Revilod on Friday 12 June 2020, 18:04
Thanks for that, Kevin. I've been listening to and enjoying Fibich's operas lately but not the symphonies. Would this disc be a good starting point? How does it compare with other performances?
Title: Re: Fibich Vol.5 from Naxos
Post by: Kevin on Friday 12 June 2020, 18:12
This is an excellent performance of the 3rd Symphony, you can't wrong with it. But I would still strongly recommended the Jaarvi recordings(Chandos) for all three symphonies. I've found Stilec's symphonic poems to uniformly good as well:
https://www.prestomusic.com/classical/products/7922825--fibich-complete-symphonies

https://www.prestomusic.com/classical/products/8042347--zden-k-fibich-orchestral-works-vol-3
Title: Re: Fibich Vol.5 from Naxos
Post by: Paul Barasi on Saturday 13 June 2020, 15:53
It would be gr8 to hear how others rate the various conductors/orchestras doing Fibich. Not that his orchestral music should present much of a difficulty to perform or throws up significant scope for interpretation. But discussing the relative merits of the various renditions would help fill in some of the huge conversation on Fibich that a few of us dare think still needs to take place on this site.
Title: Re: Fibich Vol.5 from Naxos
Post by: Joachim Raff on Monday 15 June 2020, 20:42
This is something else! The contrast between the first four volumes and this is remarkable. The performance is spot on, vivid, detailed and plenty of Czech spirit. Looks like Naxos have the recording balance just right as well. This knocks the spots off all previous digital recordings. I truly recommend   
Title: Re: Fibich Vol.5 from Naxos
Post by: Alan Howe on Monday 15 June 2020, 20:57
Better than Albrecht? If so, in what way?
Title: Re: Fibich Vol.5 from Naxos
Post by: Joachim Raff on Monday 15 June 2020, 21:11
Quote from: Alan Howe on Monday 15 June 2020, 20:57
Better than Albrecht? If so, in what way?
Yes, the detail in the recording is considerable greater. The dynamics, acoustics of the recording are also considerably greater. The performance seems cleaner and more polished. The performance grips you from beginning to the end. Only Sejna (1960) beats it for me for performance, but only just.
Sarka Overture and the fill ups are of same quality as well.
I would even stretch and say absolutely MARVELLOUS 
Title: Re: Fibich Vol.5 from Naxos
Post by: Alan Howe on Monday 15 June 2020, 22:11
Sounds really great. I'll include it in my next order - thanks for your assessment.
Title: Re: Fibich Vol.5 from Naxos
Post by: Joachim Raff on Monday 15 June 2020, 22:29
I do not think you will be disappointed. I will be interested in what the professional reviewers think of it.
Title: Re: Fibich Vol.5 from Naxos
Post by: Mark Thomas on Monday 15 June 2020, 22:47
Judging by the sound bites, the symphony is certainly superior to my old Suraphon recording (Brno State Philharmonic Orchestra conducted by Jiri Belohlavek), so I shall definitely get this new recording. What a fine symphony it is too!
Title: Re: Fibich Vol.5 from Naxos
Post by: dhibbard on Tuesday 16 June 2020, 05:11
Same here, Kevin.  However,  I may start comparing it to my Chandos copies to see how they compare.   I did buy a subscription to the Naxos Library last year.
Title: Re: Fibich Vol.5 from Naxos
Post by: Kevin on Tuesday 16 June 2020, 06:11
Mr Raff has it spot on. This will be my new reference recording for the 3rd symphony, it's that great. There's a huge gulf between  the Janacek phil and Czech national symphony in quality, it's night and day. Such a shame the other four volumes didn't have the Janacek phil.
Title: Re: Fibich Vol.5 from Naxos
Post by: Alan Howe on Tuesday 16 June 2020, 07:07
It seems significant that Vassily Sinaisky has been appointed chief conductor of the JPO - quite a coup!
Title: Re: Fibich Vol.5 from Naxos
Post by: BerlinExpat on Tuesday 16 June 2020, 16:25
From the Naxos newsletter referring to the new CD of the 3rd symphony:

Marek Štilec concludes Zdeněk Fibich's complete orchestral works.
Title: Re: Fibich Vol.5 from Naxos
Post by: Alan Howe on Tuesday 16 June 2020, 21:24
Sorry, I don't understand the reference here...

The point I was making was that the orchestra must be 'on the rise' if a leading conductor such as Sinaisky has been appointed chief conductor.
Title: Re: Fibich Vol.5 from Naxos
Post by: BerlinExpat on Tuesday 16 June 2020, 21:44
If I remember correctly eight volumes were originally planned by Naxos.
Title: Re: Fibich Vol.5 from Naxos
Post by: Alan Howe on Tuesday 16 June 2020, 22:41
Oh, I see.
Title: Re: Fibich Vol.5 from Naxos
Post by: Kevin on Tuesday 07 July 2020, 07:26
Hurwitz approves: https://www.classicstoday.com/review/first-class-fibich-cycle-on-naxos-concludes/
Title: Re: Fibich Vol.5 from Naxos
Post by: sdtom on Thursday 09 July 2020, 13:46
I was not disappointed in the least in the recording. It is a fine symphony they handled quite well especially the third movement