Unsung Composers

The Music => Recordings & Broadcasts => Topic started by: adriano on Friday 04 September 2020, 09:52

Title: Meyerbeer: Gli Amori di Teolinda
Post by: adriano on Friday 04 September 2020, 09:52
A new recording:

https://www.claves.ch/collections/rarities/products/giacomo-meyerbeer-gli-amori-di-teolinda?mc_cid=4bf50ed0e3&mc_eid=2f45fe1aa5
Title: Re: Meyerbeer: Gli Amori di Teolinda
Post by: Alan Howe on Friday 04 September 2020, 10:07
Not really my thing - all this early belcanto stuff sounds the same to me. Nevertheless, the singing sounds good enough to satisfy canary-fanciers. An enterprising release, to be sure.
Title: Re: Meyerbeer: Gli Amori di Teolinda
Post by: mikehopf on Sunday 06 September 2020, 02:43
Poor old Meyerbeer: overrated and denigrated in his lifetime; underrated in ours.
Title: Re: Meyerbeer: Gli Amori di Teolinda
Post by: Alan Howe on Sunday 06 September 2020, 08:19
Well, he was another very uneven composer. In my view only some of his music really scales the heights.
Title: Re: Meyerbeer: Gli Amori di Teolinda
Post by: adriano on Sunday 06 September 2020, 11:22
Of course I do too prefer his later, more dramatic and grand opera-like output. "Les Huguenots", "Le Prophète" and "Robert le Diable" are very important works in opera history.
Title: Re: Meyerbeer: Gli Amori di Teolinda
Post by: Alan Howe on Sunday 06 September 2020, 11:39
Absolutely correct! Is it possible to conceive of, say, Verdi's Don Carlos/Carlo without the prior example of Meyerbeer's grand operas?
Title: Re: Meyerbeer: Gli Amori di Teolinda
Post by: adriano on Sunday 06 September 2020, 12:07
I use the word "absolutely" also as an answer to you, Alan.
But we also should include Wagner! Without the stylistic influences of Meyerbeer, his earlier operas would have not been possible.
And this also from a financial point of view: we have to remember that Meyerbeer supported Wagner financially (and considerably) during his difficult Paris years 1840-42 - and Wagner never really showed him any "reconnaisance". Later on he wrote to Liszt: "I don't really hate him, but I feel a limitless repulsion towards him". And about his music: "Its all effect - without cause".
Some critics considered Wagner's "Rienzi" as being "the best of Meyerbeer's operas" - but they also were anti-semites like Wagner.
We should also not forget that Meyerbeer's legacy included funds meant to support young German (!) composers.
Title: Re: Meyerbeer: Gli Amori di Teolinda
Post by: Alan Howe on Sunday 06 September 2020, 12:25
And now it's my turn to say 'absolutely' (which I can never type correctly, by the way)! His influence on Rienzi is clear and powerful.

Of course, there is much 'effect without cause' in Meyerbeer - but what effects!
Title: Re: Meyerbeer: Gli Amori di Teolinda
Post by: adriano on Sunday 06 September 2020, 13:16
... and effects are an important element in opera. After all, it's theatre...
Title: Re: Meyerbeer: Gli Amori di Teolinda
Post by: Alan Howe on Sunday 06 September 2020, 17:41
Absolutely!  ;)