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Title: Goldmark: Symphonic Poems vol.2
Post by: Alan Howe on Friday 04 September 2020, 10:22
Forthcoming from cpo, with the Bamberg SO under Fabrice Bollon:
https://www.jpc.de/jpcng/cpo/detail/-/art/karl-goldmark-symphonische-dichtungen-vol-2/hnum/8977575 (https://www.jpc.de/jpcng/cpo/detail/-/art/karl-goldmark-symphonische-dichtungen-vol-2/hnum/8977575)

Contents:
Concert Overture "Im Frühling" Op. 36
Symphonisches Tonstück (= Symphonic Piece of Music) "Zrinyi" Op. 47
In Italien - Overture Op. 49
Götz von Berlichingen - Prelude
Aus Jugendtagen - Overture
Ein Wintermärchen - Prelude

Mouthwatering!
Title: Re: Goldmark: Symphonic Poems vol.2
Post by: Mark Thomas on Friday 04 September 2020, 10:31
Excellent! Zrinyi and the two opera preludes are new to me.
Title: Re: Goldmark: Symphonic Poems vol.2
Post by: semloh on Thursday 10 September 2020, 01:00
It's good to see less familiar pieces of Goldmark being recorded. I wish it had included the Overture to Merlin.
Title: Re: Goldmark: Symphonic Poems vol.2
Post by: eschiss1 on Friday 11 September 2020, 22:42
Somewhat to my surprise between Profil and cpo we have complete recordings of Merlin and Winter's Tale already it's seems..
Title: Re: Goldmark: Symphonic Poems vol.2
Post by: Mark Thomas on Saturday 12 September 2020, 07:54
Ein Wintermärchen has been recorded in full, Eric? This disc has only the Prelude, is there a recording of the whole opera out there somewhere?
Title: Re: Goldmark: Symphonic Poems vol.2
Post by: semloh on Saturday 12 September 2020, 08:08
..we have complete recordings of Merlin... Yes indeed, but it's hard to get the Overture alone.
Title: Re: Goldmark: Symphonic Poems vol.2
Post by: Holger on Saturday 12 September 2020, 08:30
The Merlin overture is included here:
https://www.jpc.de/jpcng/classic/detail/-/art/Karl-Goldmark-1830-1915-Symphonie-Nr-1-L%E4ndliche-Hochzeit-op-26/hnum/1149823 (https://www.jpc.de/jpcng/classic/detail/-/art/Karl-Goldmark-1830-1915-Symphonie-Nr-1-L%E4ndliche-Hochzeit-op-26/hnum/1149823)
I don't have this disc, however.
Title: Re: Goldmark: Symphonic Poems vol.2
Post by: dhibbard on Saturday 12 September 2020, 18:37
also on Naxos..   Rustic Wedding symphony
Title: Re: Goldmark: Symphonic Poems vol.2
Post by: BerlinExpat on Sunday 13 September 2020, 08:23
Look in the Downloads section for Carl Goldmark's Ein Wintermärchen in a heavily cut version or substantial excerpts, whichever takes your fancy. Nevertheless it's 87 minutes long and is great to have in advance of next years Wexford deferred production from next month. Without comparing the recording with the vocal score it seems the most substantial cuts are the choruses and ballet music, in effect reducing the opera to the essence of the drama.
It's production by the final year opera students of the Liszt Academy in Budapest performed at the Hungarian State Opera House in 2015.
Am mp4 video is also available if requested.
Title: Re: Goldmark: Symphonic Poems vol.2
Post by: Mark Thomas on Sunday 13 September 2020, 08:31
That's terrific, Colin. Thanks very much indeed.
Title: Re: Goldmark: Symphonic Poems vol.2
Post by: Alan Howe on Monday 21 September 2020, 22:22
I have only listened to Zrinyi so far, but I was quite taken aback by its boldness before I realised that it was first performed as late as 1905, i.e. when Goldmark was 75!

Spectacular playing and recording, by the way. A real feast for the ears, if that's even English. If it isn't, consider it coined herewith!
Title: Re: Goldmark: Symphonic Poems vol.2
Post by: mikehopf on Monday 21 September 2020, 23:55
Many thanks , Colin, for the wonderful Ein Wintermarchen. I had a tape of a very old recording of extracts in pretty dire sound but even then the quality of the music shone through.

If you could also download the video or give the link, that would also be much appreciated.
Title: Re: Goldmark: Symphonic Poems vol.2
Post by: Alan Howe on Tuesday 22 September 2020, 13:34
Going back to the new Goldmark CD...

It's obvious why these fine pieces have disappeared: in the era of Strauss (Richard) they just don't have the profile and invention of the younger composer. And compared to his contemporaries, none of these pieces has the individuality of say, Má vlast, especially Vltava.

Still, Bollon makes the best possible case for them.
Title: Re: Goldmark: Symphonic Poems vol.2
Post by: eschiss1 on Saturday 24 October 2020, 22:00
expected in the US (see Presto (https://www.prestomusic.com/classical/products/8829249--goldmark-symphonic-poems-vol-2)) by October 30 or so.
Title: Re: Goldmark: Symphonic Poems vol.2
Post by: adriano on Thursday 07 January 2021, 07:27
Excellent and highly recommendable music!
Two (MusicWeb) reviewers have the courage of complaining about Eckhardt van den Hoogen's booklet notes:

"The ten – page essay by Eckhardt van den Hoogen, is tedious beyond words; and its overwrought dullness is at least matched by its pretentiousness. Two pages are spent attacking an unnamed author and book, one which apparently reduces the reader to 'an ulcerous condition' and the further statement: ' He who needs to rely on such sleights of hand loses his credibility rating just as quickly as Wildcat Hendricks when the fifth ace falls out of his ruffled sleeve...' – and things don't look up thereafter."

Title: Re: Goldmark: Symphonic Poems vol.2
Post by: Alan Howe on Thursday 07 January 2021, 09:46
Unfortunately, cpo's booklet notes are extremely variable in quality - not to mention often poorly translated by native Germans. They need to take a look at Martin Anderson's notes at Toccata which are a model of their kind.
Title: Re: Goldmark: Symphonic Poems vol.2
Post by: adriano on Thursday 07 January 2021, 10:05
Right, Alan. EvH (who is an excellent musicologist) also comes up with gushy "In eigener Sache" ("in own matter") preambles (like, for example in his notes for the latest Schreker cpo CD) which are of no interest to a reader - and stink a bit of self-presentation.
Title: Re: Goldmark: Symphonic Poems vol.2
Post by: Alan Howe on Thursday 07 January 2021, 12:13
It tells me that there's a very weak editorial policy with regard to booklet content and quality.
Title: Re: Goldmark: Symphonic Poems vol.2
Post by: Gareth Vaughan on Thursday 07 January 2021, 16:50
Yes. I don't know for sure, of course, but I had a very free hand in what I wrote for the last Holbrooke disk booklet (which was fine by me as I wasn't going to write self-indulgent rubbish). Alas, my German is nowhere near good enough to know whether whoever translated my English text produced something which was accurate or which  German native speakers would have found tolerable.
Title: Re: Goldmark: Symphonic Poems vol.2
Post by: CelesteCadenza on Thursday 07 January 2021, 17:13
Quote from: Alan Howe on Thursday 07 January 2021, 12:13
It tells me that there's a very weak editorial policy with regard to booklet content and quality.
Imagine how much further time an adequate editorial/translation policy would add to their release schedule!  ;)
Title: Re: Goldmark: Symphonic Poems vol.2
Post by: Alan Howe on Thursday 07 January 2021, 17:37
On the other hand, since the time-gap between recording and release is often already very long, there ought surely to be adequate time to get the booklet notes right.
Title: Re: Goldmark: Symphonic Poems vol.2
Post by: sdtom on Thursday 07 January 2021, 20:25
couldn't agree more with Alan and Celeste