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Title: Hans Rott Orchestral Works, vol.2
Post by: Alan Howe on Tuesday 17 November 2020, 20:33
...forthcoming from Capriccio, featuring the Symphony, Symphony for String Orchestra and Symphonic Movement in E:
https://www.jpc.de/jpcng/classic/detail/-/art/hans-rott-saemtliche-orchesterwerke-vol-2/hnum/10322220
Title: Re: Hans Rott Orchestral Works, vol.2
Post by: sdtom on Thursday 17 December 2020, 20:08
I just received my copy from Naxos
Title: Re: Hans Rott Orchestral Works, vol.2
Post by: Justin on Sunday 10 January 2021, 06:11
Available on Presto:
https://www.prestomusic.com/classical/products/8861925--hans-rott-orchestral-works-vol-2 (https://www.prestomusic.com/classical/products/8861925--hans-rott-orchestral-works-vol-2)
Title: Re: Hans Rott Orchestral Works, vol.2
Post by: sdtom on Sunday 10 January 2021, 13:47
I have the digital file of  it, have listened to it many times already, love the recording and highly recommend it to all along with the first volume except the cover art is horrible.
Title: Re: Hans Rott Orchestral Works, vol.2
Post by: Alan Howe on Sunday 10 January 2021, 13:49
For me the question is simple: Do I need another recording of the Symphony - and is this new one better than the ones we've already got? I'm not convinced.
Title: Re: Hans Rott Orchestral Works, vol.2
Post by: sdtom on Sunday 10 January 2021, 14:11
It is nice to have the two volume set?
Title: Re: Hans Rott Orchestral Works, vol.2
Post by: Gareth Vaughan on Sunday 10 January 2021, 14:14
QuoteFor me the question is simple: Do I need another recording of the Symphony - and is this new one better than the ones we've already got? I'm not convinced.

That is precisely my position at the moment. But for those who are just starting to explore Rott (though there is not that much to explore) I am sure these 2 volumes will be welcome.
Title: Re: Hans Rott Orchestral Works, vol.2
Post by: Alan Howe on Sunday 10 January 2021, 16:18
Vol.1 - certainly. But vol.2? I think one can probably do better - under Paavo Järvi, for example:
https://www.prestomusic.com/classical/products/8019731--hans-rott-symphony-no-1-and-suite
Title: Re: Hans Rott Orchestral Works, vol.2
Post by: britishcomposer on Sunday 10 January 2021, 23:46
Hm, what about the last track? This seems to be a first version of the first movement. So for completists at least it's a must-have.
Title: Re: Hans Rott Orchestral Works, vol.2
Post by: Alan Howe on Sunday 10 January 2021, 23:49
Oh, quite. But I'm not a Rott completist.
Title: Re: Hans Rott Orchestral Works, vol.2
Post by: Mark Thomas on Monday 11 January 2021, 07:29
I am a completist, so I just downloaded that track.
Title: Re: Hans Rott Orchestral Works, vol.2
Post by: Alan Howe on Monday 11 January 2021, 10:20
Nevertheless, I am curious! Any idea, Mark, what the differences are between the track you downloaded and the first movement of the Symphony?
Title: Re: Hans Rott Orchestral Works, vol.2
Post by: Mark Thomas on Monday 11 January 2021, 13:19
No, not yet. Although I've played it through, I don't know the Symphony well enough to pick up differences between these two versions of the first movement without doing a "live" comparison, which I haven't done. The download doesn't come with a pdf of the booklet, unfortunately.
Title: Re: Hans Rott Orchestral Works, vol.2
Post by: sdtom on Monday 11 January 2021, 15:12
Alan just get it and you'll be so happy you did. Wand does a fine job. I will listen to the Jarvi. What label Mark? I have the Cinc. recording and I can say Wand does a much better job.
Title: Re: Hans Rott Orchestral Works, vol.2
Post by: Alan Howe on Monday 11 January 2021, 15:40
It's not Wand, Tom - it's Christopher Ward:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christopher_Ward_(conductor)
http://www.csward.com/CSW.html

Also: if you only have the old Cincinnati recording, then many/most of the newer recordings will be found to be superior, including Ward's. The issue is not whether Ward is better than Cincinnati/Samuel in the Symphony, but whether he measures up to the best of the newer recordings, e.g. Paavo Järvi.
Title: Re: Hans Rott Orchestral Works, vol.2
Post by: Mark Thomas on Monday 11 January 2021, 19:37
QuoteWhat label Mark?
I had the Cincinnati recording for years, but Paavo Järvi's has now superceded it. It's superior in every respect.
Title: Re: Hans Rott Orchestral Works, vol.2
Post by: eschiss1 on Tuesday 12 January 2021, 12:31
Järvi's Rott is on RCA, to answer the question meanweiler.

(My apologies to the lovable much-maligned doggies.)
Title: Re: Hans Rott Orchestral Works, vol.2
Post by: sdtom on Tuesday 12 January 2021, 17:21
Sorry, Mark and members. My glasses need help I fear. I was only comparing what I have.  Perhaps a reviewer will compare for us. I am very happy with the Ward recordings, also having the first volume. I would not be surprised if he went to school on the other recordings, learned a lot from them and produced a great recording.
Title: Re: Hans Rott Orchestral Works, vol.2
Post by: chriss on Friday 15 January 2021, 13:51
I received the CD this week. From the booklet about the Sinfoniesatz E-dur:

"Whoever ist familiiar with Rott's symphony will immediately ascribe to it the Symphonic Movement in E major (1878), as it represents the first version of its first movement, although the differences are clearly discernible on listening to it."

That's it.
But it is a fascinating piece on its own.
Title: Re: Hans Rott Orchestral Works, vol.2
Post by: sdtom on Saturday 06 February 2021, 15:37
I did not pick up on it "chriss" but I will go back and relisten to it. Either way, it is a fine recording and a nice way to have the works of Rott. I still have not listened to the Jarvi yet.