Unsung Composers

The Music => Composers & Music => Topic started by: Mark Thomas on Thursday 18 February 2021, 07:49

Title: Beethoven's Last Thoughts - disappeared
Post by: Mark Thomas on Thursday 18 February 2021, 07:49
For some as yet unknown reason the thread begun by gprengel on his arrangement of Beethoven's last sketches has disappeared completely from the board. We have no idea how this happened and I apologise to all members who contributed, but particularly to Gerd.
Title: Re: Beethoven's Last Thoughts - disappeared
Post by: gprengel on Thursday 18 February 2021, 09:10
since the old thread disappeard, I present here at least the youtube link:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ICjuECtzFMg&feature=youtu.be

And here the 2 theme sketches by Beethoven on which I built the Allegro:

http://www.gerdprengel.de/woo62-1_sketches-1.jpg

And I 'd like say, that I do NOT necessarily claim that this work would sound like Beethoven. Primarily I want to express MY feelings, but by making use of Beethoven's otherwise lost themes which just fascinate me. . .

Gerd
Title: Re: Beethoven's Last Thoughts - disappeared
Post by: Mark Thomas on Thursday 18 February 2021, 09:39
Thanks for reposting these links, and for the clarification.
Title: Re: Beethoven's Last Thoughts - disappeared
Post by: terry martyn on Thursday 18 February 2021, 10:34
I´m glad that Gerd has reposted the YouTube link. His work is always stimulating.  Thank you, Mark, for rescuing this thread. It had been dogged by disaster.
Title: Re: Beethoven's Last Thoughts - disappeared
Post by: Alan Howe on Thursday 18 February 2021, 11:58
Absolutely no more dog references, please - the joke's worn thin. Let's concentrate on the music.
Title: Re: Beethoven's Last Thoughts - disappeared
Post by: eschiss1 on Thursday 18 February 2021, 12:41
I agree with Gerd up to the "otherwise lost" part, as I believe there are at least two other reconstructions in existence that can be heard.
Title: Re: Beethoven's Last Thoughts - disappeared
Post by: gprengel on Thursday 18 February 2021, 14:35
You mean the arrangement in IMSPL? That does not use the themes which I use for the first movement and which I do not find so appealing ... one of his themes I use for my 4th movement though
Title: Re: Beethoven's Last Thoughts - disappeared
Post by: eschiss1 on Thursday 18 February 2021, 14:59
there is also one on LP which I have not yet heard but will see if I can find somehow. (Most of the other versions I find online are closer to 4 minutes, not 11 so are probably straight arrangements of the published version.)
Title: Re: Beethoven's Last Thoughts - disappeared
Post by: semloh on Friday 19 February 2021, 22:30
Yes, many thanks to Gerd, whose 'reconstructions' are always fascinating and enjoyable.