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The Music => Recordings & Broadcasts => Topic started by: Alan Howe on Monday 19 July 2021, 11:34

Title: Gustav Jenner Symphonic Fragment
Post by: Alan Howe on Monday 19 July 2021, 11:34
A true rarity:
https://www.jpc.de/jpcng/classic/detail/-/art/claudio-monteverdi-warsaw-radio-symphony-orchestra-festspiel-sinfoniekonzert/hnum/10671907
Title: Re: Gustav Jenner Symphonic Fragment
Post by: Mark Thomas on Monday 19 July 2021, 12:04
Given the rest of the programme on the CD, I'd really like to know how long the Jenner fragments are before I commit. There's around 15-17 minutes available on the CD, which I guess would be enough to accommodate the two symphonic movements listed on the back of the CD.
Title: Re: Gustav Jenner Symphonic Fragment
Post by: Alan Howe on Monday 19 July 2021, 12:09
I've ordered it, so I'll let you know...
Title: Re: Gustav Jenner Symphonic Fragment
Post by: eschiss1 on Monday 19 July 2021, 14:20
Please do. Intriguing. (Unfortunately the only thing I see listed under the conductor Siegfried Heinrich @ Amazon Music is (a compilation containing) a recording I actually have - his Liszt Elisabeth Legend. Which is cut, I think, but otherwise really good.)
Title: Re: Gustav Jenner Symphonic Fragment
Post by: Mark Thomas on Monday 19 July 2021, 15:40
QuoteI'll let you know
Thanks, Alan - it's a fascinating prospect, though may be juvenilia as I see it's his Op.1..
Title: Re: Gustav Jenner Symphonic Fragment
Post by: Alan Howe on Monday 19 July 2021, 17:01
The blurb at jpc says that this first recording was made in 1987 by the Polish Radio Symphony Orchestra of Warsaw  conducted by Jan Pruszak (1931-1920), its chief conductor at the time.

The two movements (as per the details at jpc) are:
i.  Adagio in B flat major   
ii. Finale (Scherzo) in B flat minor

The work is referred to here (entry no.17 under Instrumental Music)...
https://www.uni-marburg.de/de/fb09/musikwissenschaft/hessisches-musikarchiv/dateien/kohleick-werkverzeichnis
...as 'Two Movements of an Unfinished Symphony: Adagio – Scherzo (Presto – Moderato), composed Marburg, 1912'.

Jenner's Op.1 comprises Four Songs, pub. Simrock (Berlin) in 1890.

Title: Re: Gustav Jenner Symphonic Fragment
Post by: eschiss1 on Monday 19 July 2021, 19:37
right, his op.1: "No. 1. Nachts: ,,Der Westwind streichelt die Locken". No. 2. Noch einmal: ,,Noch einmal fällt in meinen Schoss". No. 3. Waisenkind: ,,Ich bin eine Rose". No. 4. Sonntag früh: ,,Am frühen Sonntagmorgen""
Title: Re: Gustav Jenner Symphonic Fragment
Post by: Mark Thomas on Monday 19 July 2021, 20:40
 :) Obviously I should have checked my "Op.1" source!
Title: Re: Gustav Jenner Symphonic Fragment
Post by: Alan Howe on Monday 19 July 2021, 20:59
Not to worry. The fact that this is a mature work makes it intriguing...
Title: Re: Gustav Jenner Symphonic Fragment
Post by: Mark Thomas on Monday 19 July 2021, 22:10
Quite.
Title: Re: Gustav Jenner Symphonic Fragment
Post by: Alan Howe on Thursday 22 July 2021, 08:44
Try tracks 2 and 3:
https://www.jpc.de/jpcng/classic/detail/-/art/claudio-monteverdi-warsaw-radio-symphony-orchestra-festspiel-sinfoniekonzert/hnum/10671907
Title: Re: Gustav Jenner Symphonic Fragment
Post by: Alan Howe on Thursday 22 July 2021, 13:17
Track 3 - Scherzo (Presto – Moderato) - begins like an undiscovered movement by Beethoven. It's extremely anachronistic for 1912!
Title: Re: Gustav Jenner Symphonic Fragment
Post by: semloh on Friday 23 July 2021, 23:31
This is fascinating. Thanks for the links.  :)
Title: Re: Gustav Jenner Symphonic Fragment
Post by: Alan Howe on Wednesday 28 July 2021, 17:36
This is far better than I had imagined! It is in essence a mini-symphony, with an unbelievably beautiful solemn Adagio (10:08) followed by a Scherzo/Finale (06:15) which starts like Beethoven (think 5th & 7th Symphonies), but continues in a somewhat 'stomping' Brucknerian fashion before segeuing into a lovely lyrical trio section.

OK - I'm going to say it: the slow movement is a masterpiece of the first rank and the work as a whole could be as popular as Schubert's Unfinished if it were played. I find the two movements deeply satisfying. Yes, it is anachronistic, but frankly - who cares?

The performance is wonderfully played and recorded in a suitably resonant acoustic.


Title: Re: Gustav Jenner Symphonic Fragment
Post by: Mark Thomas on Thursday 29 July 2021, 07:14
That's a a very persuasive review, Alan, what a shame he didn't finish the Symphony. As far as the recording goes, it's not available to download, can't be bought in the UK and I really don't need the couplings, so I'll be giving it a miss.
Title: Re: Gustav Jenner Symphonic Fragment
Post by: eschiss1 on Sunday 01 August 2021, 03:53
Hrm. So this work is from right after his serenade in A major (1911-2), and between them are they his only symphonic music (one complete work and two basically complete movements?)