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Title: Grieg - second piano concerto?
Post by: Christopher on Monday 15 August 2022, 23:01
Did Grieg write a second piano concerto? I just came across this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6mDawU3VUtY (http://"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6mDawU3VUtY")

It says:  E. Grieg - V. Beliaev Concerto  №2 for piano and orchestra.
Chamber orchestra "The seasons"(Dnipro, Ukraine), conductor Dmitriy Logvin, soloist Artur Nikulin


(The soloist Artur Nikulin is the one who played the Kosenko pc that so many on here have liked.)
Title: Re: Grieg - second piano concerto?
Post by: ewk on Tuesday 16 August 2022, 00:57
Fascinating, I had not known about Grieg's project of a second piano concerto!

I just discovered that Corentin Boissier has had it in his collection for quite a while already:


Based on the first minutes, I must say I agree with the commenters there – does not sound too much Grieg-ish to me. But still fascinating to hear!
The sketches seem to be relatively scarce – but the main themes at least for the first movement seem to be there, see here (http://www.grieg.be/artGriegbminor.htm). In 1997, there was a competition for Piano concertos incorporating Grieg's sketches (http://www.grieg.be/artConcertobminor.htm) where all these and even more completions originate from, see also Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piano_Concerto_(Grieg)#Second_concerto).

Others have come to quite some different conclusions from Grieg's sketches (which sound a bit more Grieg-ian to me):


IMSLP has a piano reduction of some of the sketches (https://imslp.org/wiki/Piano_Concerto_in_B_minor%2C_EG_120_(Grieg%2C_Edvard)).

Best wishes! ewk
Title: Re: Grieg - second piano concerto?
Post by: semloh on Tuesday 16 August 2022, 08:15
Yes, although it's a work of imagination based on sketches, much of the Beeckmans version simply quotes themes from Grieg's other works! It's a bit disappointing - but the performance is lovely.
Title: Re: Grieg - second piano concerto?
Post by: Alan Howe on Tuesday 16 August 2022, 09:37
Friends might like to consult this earlier thread:
https://www.unsungcomposers.com/forum/index.php/topic,5626.0.html

See also this release:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Concerto-Petersson-Symphony-Orchestra-Stratton/dp/B00WCCYC44/ref=sr_1_1?crid=2T95CAH9EPYYY&keywords=grieg+evju&qid=1660638833&sprefix=grieg+evju%2Caps%2C82&sr=8-1
Title: Re: Grieg - second piano concerto?
Post by: ewk on Tuesday 16 August 2022, 10:12
Thanks Alan for linking the preexisting thread, admitteldly I had not searched before posting...
For others who also did not know of the existence of said thread, most of the other sketch realisations are linked there!
Title: Re: Grieg - second piano concerto?
Post by: Christopher on Tuesday 16 August 2022, 12:08
Quote from: Alan Howe on Tuesday 16 August 2022, 09:37Friends might like to consult this earlier thread:
https://www.unsungcomposers.com/forum/index.php/topic,5626.0.html

See also this release:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Concerto-Petersson-Symphony-Orchestra-Stratton/dp/B00WCCYC44/ref=sr_1_1?crid=2T95CAH9EPYYY&keywords=grieg+evju&qid=1660638833&sprefix=grieg+evju%2Caps%2C82&sr=8-1

Ah - thanks Alan and apologies for the duplication!
Title: Re: Grieg - second piano concerto?
Post by: Alan Howe on Tuesday 16 August 2022, 13:06
Not to worry. It was only a vague memory that prompted me to try and find the previous discussion.