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The Music => Recordings & Broadcasts => Topic started by: Alan Howe on Thursday 20 October 2022, 12:18

Title: Karol Lipinski Symphonies Op.2 Nos.2 & 3
Post by: Alan Howe on Thursday 20 October 2022, 12:18
...forthcoming from NIF:
https://www.jpc.de/jpcng/classic/detail/-/art/sinfonien/hnum/11062532

No.2 is dated 'before 1810' and No.3 'circa 1810'.
Title: Re: Karol Lipinski Symphonies Op.2 Nos.2 & 3
Post by: kolaboy on Saturday 22 October 2022, 09:50
I've only heard a few of his concertos, so this is definitely of interest.
Title: Re: Karol Lipinski Symphonies Op.2 Nos.2 & 3
Post by: terry martyn on Monday 24 October 2022, 23:26
I have listened to both these symphonies,and these seem to be late-classical student works,I'm afraid. I think I can resist the need to purchase them,as they sound sub-Haydn and the orchestra lacks body.
Title: Re: Karol Lipinski Symphonies Op.2 Nos.2 & 3
Post by: Alan Howe on Tuesday 25 October 2022, 08:24
Thanks for the information.
Title: Re: Karol Lipinski Symphonies Op.2 Nos.2 & 3
Post by: hyperdanny on Tuesday 25 October 2022, 08:29
there's a good release on Dux where the symphony n.3, the violin concerto n.2 , and an overture in D major are played by a regular, full size orchestra, with no HIP pretensions.
True, the symphony is no great masterpiece, but it comes across much, much better.
Title: Re: Karol Lipinski Symphonies Op.2 Nos.2 & 3
Post by: terry martyn on Friday 09 December 2022, 09:22
With that recommendation,hyperdanny, I have gone ahead and bought it
Title: Re: Karol Lipinski Symphonies Op.2 Nos.2 & 3
Post by: Alan Howe on Friday 09 December 2022, 12:30
This is the alternative recording (of Op. 2/3) on Dux mentioned above:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Lipinski-Violin-Concerto-Symphony-Overture/dp/B0001D0A4M

However, the online review isn't aexactly positive about the playing in the symphony:

The violin concerto is the star attraction here, it is in the grand operatic manner of Paganini but the solo part is not so given to virtuoso display. The symphony and overture are tuneful if on the bland side. The orchestra is at times a little shaky in intonation and entries, the soloist, Dominika Falger, performs with bravura, and so somewhat makes up for their short comings. To my mind ( and ear ) the concerto is 4 stars and the symphony 3.

Of course, one can judge for oneself here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=csAxKtQZSJM

Not a patch on, say, Wranitzky, in my view.
Title: Re: Karol Lipinski Symphonies Op.2 Nos.2 & 3
Post by: hyperdanny on Saturday 10 December 2022, 09:25
For sure the orchestra on Dux is not the Berliners, not even a good German radio orchestra, but patchy moments aside it's listenable.
I heard worse on some old Marco Polo releases.
Agreed on the "not a patch on Wranitzky".
Title: Re: Karol Lipinski Symphonies Op.2 Nos.2 & 3
Post by: terry martyn on Saturday 10 December 2022, 11:59
I think we can all agree that the new recording is a dud, by way of comparison. And,yes,Paul Wranitzky continues to be pleasurably surprising.
Title: Re: Karol Lipinski Symphonies Op.2 Nos.2 & 3
Post by: Alan Howe on Saturday 10 December 2022, 12:12
The new recording is a dud (in my eyes) because it's HIP. The older recording isn't as good as it could be. A shame.