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The Music => Composers & Music => Topic started by: terry martyn on Thursday 15 December 2022, 22:21

Title: Magnard's Symphonies
Post by: terry martyn on Thursday 15 December 2022, 22:21
I referred elsewhere that I have failed to warm to Magnard's earlier symphonies (I have possessed an LP of his Fourth for many years and find even that heavy going). I have a feeling that Alan is up to the challenge of pointing out the error of my ways.
Title: Re: Magnard's Symphonies
Post by: eschiss1 on Friday 16 December 2022, 03:00
While I enjoy Plasson's recording, which I am assuming is the LP in question (I know of no other recordings of Op.21 from even the edge of the LP era, whereas the 3rd symphony was also recorded by Ansermet- possibly the first Magnard symphony recording I ever heard, on WFLN-FM back in college, I believe), there seems to be some consensus that Ossonce's recording of the C# minor symphony on Hyperion is preferable to Plasson's.
While I adore the 3rd and 4th symphonies, I also find myself returning often to his cello sonata (Op.20 in A, 1908-10, written soon after his opera Bérénice (which wasn't premiered until 1911. Not sure what he was composing between 1910 and 1912, between composing op.20 and starting op.21- maybe revising the op.7 and Bérénice (his only published and premiered not-posthumously opera) and other works, which were reprinted, premiered, etc. in 1911, I think...)
Title: Re: Magnard's Symphonies
Post by: Alan Howe on Friday 16 December 2022, 12:46
I won't be pointing out the error of anyone's ways (!). All I'd say, especially in comparison with Foerster, is that Magnard is a vastly more individual and interesting composer. Certainly Symphonies 3 and 4 are masterpieces (and very original), and there are sufficient works in other genres to lament the fact of his tragic early death at the hands of German invaders in 1914. He was only 49.

For those who don't know them, here are Symphony No.3:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KZt7GbwJCm0
...and No.4:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SDwfH5EsicA
(both conducted by Michel Plasson)
Title: Re: Magnard's Symphonies
Post by: jdperdrix on Friday 16 December 2022, 15:39
Fortunately, in the recent years, all of Magnard's music has been recorded, except his operas Yolande (only the reduction for voices and piano has survived and, contrary to Guercoeur, Ropartz did not reorchester it) and Berenice (available as mp3 from a performance in Marseille in 2001).
To me, his masterpieces are his last two symphonies, the Chant funèbre, the violin sonata and the string quartet.
Title: Re: Magnard's Symphonies
Post by: semloh on Saturday 17 December 2022, 09:13
Quote from: jdperdrix on Friday 16 December 2022, 15:39To me, his masterpieces are his last two symphonies, the Chant funèbre, the violin sonata and the string quartet.

Same for me. I bought the Toulouse/Plasson discs when they first appeared, after hearing the Chant funèbre on the radio, and have enjoyed them immensely.
Title: Re: Magnard's Symphonies
Post by: Ilja on Monday 19 December 2022, 10:25
While the Plasson discs are very good, I feel that the recent Bollon recordings are a worthwhile upgrade; his more refined orchestral phrasing adds substantial depth to Magnard's works, in particular to the two early symphonies. The whole thing is on Youtube too (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5biyAuQlPQM&list=PL4D14bmfCxVXAMeBu5CsVeFiTCWglbYGK), in case you want to explore them.

The Malmö/Sanderling recordings are, to me, a distant third.
Title: Re: Magnard's Symphonies
Post by: terry martyn on Monday 19 December 2022, 11:07
i will take a look, and educate my palette