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The Music => Recordings & Broadcasts => Topic started by: Mark Thomas on Friday 18 February 2011, 10:33

Title: Fuchs Serenades from Naxos
Post by: Mark Thomas on Friday 18 February 2011, 10:33
I don't think that this new issue has been reported here before. Robert Fuch's first  two Serenades plus a couple of other works make for rather short measure, though. Availabe in Euroope at the end of the month. Full details here (http://www.naxos.com/catalogue/item.asp?item_code=8.572222).
Title: Re: Fuchs Serenades from Naxos
Post by: eschiss1 on Friday 18 February 2011, 13:01
and no.2 isn't a premiere  (I'm not saying they claim it is, just that it might have been nice to have a recording of no.4, which has not been recorded yet - for the price of two horn players, anyway.) Admittedly the 1999 ebs CD of nos. 2 (15 and a half minutes in that rec., only slightly faster than in this new one) and 3 (21 min), with - again - the lovely Andante grazioso and capriccioso (17:23 on the ebs, again, practically the same), may be no longer available commercially.
Hrm. Naxos takes longer and longer to load for me. Is it ok to link to classicsonline.com, they're not quite the same but also reproduce the program notes and timings and seem to be faster?... (this link... (http://www.classicsonline.com/catalogue/product.aspx?pid=1012655) if ok)
Eric
Title: Re: Fuchs Serenades from Naxos
Post by: Alan Howe on Friday 18 February 2011, 16:18
We discussed the rather 'slim pickings' available on the CD a while back. I'll be passing on this one, but perhaps anyone who buys it can persuade me otherwise...?
Title: Re: Fuchs Serenades from Naxos
Post by: febnyc on Friday 18 February 2011, 20:56
I have the ebs CD of the Second and Third Serenades, plus the Andante grazioso.

The timings for the tracks as shown on the booklet all appear to be wrong.  Has anyone else noticed this?
Title: Re: Fuchs Serenades from Naxos
Post by: M. Henriksen on Thursday 01 March 2012, 17:12
Serenades nos. 3, 4 & 5 to be released soon!

http://www.naxos.com/catalogue/item.asp?item_code=8.572607 (http://www.naxos.com/catalogue/item.asp?item_code=8.572607)


Morten
Title: Re: Fuchs Serenades from Naxos
Post by: petershott@btinternet.com on Thursday 01 March 2012, 19:41
I thought the first Naxos disc (with the same forces) issued towards the end of 2011 of Serenades 1 and 2 was absolutely gorgeous. So I'm already wired up to order Serenades 3, 4 and 5.

True, that first disc was somewhat short measure at around 55 minutes. But with such music, and such performances, and at Naxos price, I don't complain. Besides I wouldn't dare NOT buy the new disc just in case Naxos got the idea that Fuchs doesn't sell. The more Fuchs the better - but a wise man wouldn't proclaim that loudly in the market place.
Title: Re: Fuchs Serenades from Naxos
Post by: M. Henriksen on Thursday 01 March 2012, 19:46
And on this forthcoming disc you can enjoy almost 69 minutes of Fuchs!


Morten
Title: Re: Fuchs Serenades from Naxos
Post by: eschiss1 on Friday 02 March 2012, 03:41
I -really- should consider getting that disc :) I still haven't heard serenades 4 and 5, I think, and no.3 maybe once at most.
Title: Re: Fuchs Serenades from Naxos
Post by: Alan Howe on Friday 02 March 2012, 12:21
I changed my mind and greatly enjoyed volume 1, so volume 2 is a must-buy!
Title: Re: Fuchs Serenades from Naxos
Post by: Paul Barasi on Sunday 18 March 2012, 19:44
For me, Serenaden-Fuchs is a big disappointment in his own genre. The two serenades are anti-gravitas music.
Title: Re: Fuchs Serenades from Naxos
Post by: Alan Howe on Sunday 18 March 2012, 20:21
Quote from: Paul Barasi on Sunday 18 March 2012, 19:44
For me, Serenaden-Fuchs is a big disappointment in his own genre. The two serenades are anti-gravitas music.

That's precisely why they're such marvellously refreshing music - in my view, of course.
Title: Re: Fuchs Serenades from Naxos
Post by: Paul Barasi on Sunday 18 March 2012, 21:56
More than anything I was struck by the incongruent timing. For this was when Fuch's Conservatory colleague Bruckner wrote his symphonies 3-5 (and Dvořák likewise). It was just after Vienna had been filled with all the excitement of the Great Exhibition, with the Hofoperntheater's opera balls in full swing, and at the height of the raging controversy invoked by Wagner's Vienna concerts which were fundraisers for the inaugural Bayreuth Festival with its Götterdämmerung premiere. And Fuchs brings out this muzak!
Title: Re: Fuchs Serenades from Naxos
Post by: Alan Howe on Monday 19 March 2012, 08:47
Well, they are what they are - serenades. Nothing wrong with lighter music, especially of this quality. Remember also that this was the period of Johann Strauss; Die Fledermaus - perhaps the greatest Viennese operetta of all - was written around that time too...
Title: Re: Fuchs Serenades from Naxos
Post by: eschiss1 on Wednesday 21 March 2012, 05:55
He was soon to follow the last of his serenades, to some critics' displeasure, with a- hrm, not serious (not in the sense of "solemn", anyway) - thoughtful?  - hrm... well, with the first two of his string quartets, anyway... the first of which has a quiet and calm opening movement that I anyway am very taken with (well, I'm taken with all four of them, as played by the Minguet Quartet on MDG, but the opening and third movements of the first, and the whole of the 1916 4th quartet, are all real treats of a more substantial order in my opinion, as is the 6th violin sonata- but those last are rather later things.)

Eric
Title: Re: Fuchs Serenades from Naxos
Post by: petershott@btinternet.com on Tuesday 03 April 2012, 16:19
Hum, think I'll declare war on anyone who doesn't respond favorably to the second Naxos disc containing Serenades 3, 4 and 5.

So there!
Title: Re: Fuchs Serenades from Naxos
Post by: Alan Howe on Tuesday 10 April 2012, 23:59
This time I agree with Hurwitz...
<<Don't let the "lightness" of the genre fool you. This is music of very high quality.>>
http://www.classicstoday.com/review/fuchs-splendid-serenades-completed/ (http://www.classicstoday.com/review/fuchs-splendid-serenades-completed/)
Title: Re: Fuchs Serenades from Naxos
Post by: Paul Barasi on Wednesday 11 April 2012, 16:32
Only "just as delightful as the first" then? Well, we can't all like the same music but there is a huge amount of light music from the same time/same place that is much better to my ears than this. I'm OK that not everyone agrees with me but I would be disappointed if nobody did.
Title: Re: Fuchs Serenades from Naxos
Post by: Alan Howe on Wednesday 11 April 2012, 16:53
Well, bring on the army of Serenaden-Fuchs-haters! Where are you all?  ;)
Title: Re: Fuchs Serenades from Naxos
Post by: Alan Howe on Friday 04 May 2012, 14:00
The CD is absolutely delightful. This is most definitely lighter music of a superior kind. Utterly beguiling melodies and the occasional lovely harmonic side-step. Brilliant! And all for Naxos money...
Title: Re: Fuchs Serenades from Naxos
Post by: Alan Howe on Friday 04 May 2012, 14:30
...btw there's some quite meaty stuff in Nos 4 and 5. Gorgeous too!