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The Music => Composers & Music => Topic started by: jerfilm on Monday 28 February 2011, 16:57

Title: Tomas Breton (1850-1923)
Post by: jerfilm on Monday 28 February 2011, 16:57
Surfing around the web this morning, I came across what appears to be a fairly obscure recording of Spanish Romantic Violin Concertos by Tomas Breton and Jesus Monasterio (1836-1903).  Quite lovely pieces.  Which of course got me to delving further and finding that there is a recording, probably out of print, of Breton's Symphony #2 in Eb on the Newport Label.  Prices for this seem to run in the $100 range.  Does anyone know where one could obtain this for a reasonable price?

Jerry
Title: Re: Tomas Breton (1850-1923)
Post by: jimmosk on Monday 28 February 2011, 23:09
I'm afraid I don't, though once in a blue moon I've found one in a used-CD store.  Breton's Second is quite entertaining -- it's very clearly a Beethoven symphony (around the complexity of the Third), composed 75 years later!

But at least I can link you to this performance of Breton's String Quartet on YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XLfA6F494MA (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XLfA6F494MA)

-J

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Title: Re: Tomas Breton (1850-1923)
Post by: Gareth Vaughan on Monday 28 February 2011, 23:38
The CD of the Breton and Monasterio VCs can be purchased here: http://www.trito.es/audios,en/TD00071/Spanish-romantic-violin-concertos-Breton-Monasterio.html#medias (http://www.trito.es/audios,en/TD00071/Spanish-romantic-violin-concertos-Breton-Monasterio.html#medias)
Title: Re: Tomas Breton (1850-1923)
Post by: jerfilm on Tuesday 01 March 2011, 00:33
One further question - since I bought the download, there are no liner notes or booklet to refer to.  The tracks do not identify which concerto is by which composer and a search of the net for Breton's violin concerto doesn't seem to yield a key signature.  one is in "Si amor" and the other in "La menor"  -which is which?

Tobias??

Jerry
Title: Re: Tomas Breton (1850-1923)
Post by: JimL on Tuesday 01 March 2011, 01:46
Si menor is, I believe B minor.  La menor is A minor.
Title: Re: Tomas Breton (1850-1923)
Post by: jerfilm on Tuesday 01 March 2011, 02:12
Thanks Jim.  But I can translate the Spanish.  But which concerto belongs to which composer?
Title: Re: Tomas Breton (1850-1923)
Post by: eschiss1 on Tuesday 01 March 2011, 03:43
Breton's string quartet has been recorded on Marco Polo (not sure if it's still available- probably not since Naxos has released the coupling, the piano trio, along with other trio music by Breton.) Also available in performance material at IMSLP.
Title: Re: Tomas Breton (1850-1923)
Post by: Amphissa on Tuesday 01 March 2011, 04:15
Breton is the A minor. It is the first 3 tracks on the CD. Monasterio is in B mjnor and is the last 3 tracks.
Title: Re: Tomas Breton (1850-1923)
Post by: eschiss1 on Tuesday 01 March 2011, 04:48
hrm, didn't know that Breton's was dedicated to the memory of Sarasate. A violin/piano score published from manuscript by Santiago de Compostela : Música en Compostela in 1995, (with notes by Antonio de Iglesias) is at the University of Buffalo (New York, USA) and at the Lincoln Center Public Library (NYC, New York) (permanentish link (http://catalog.nypl.org/record=b12347622~S1)).  Alas no information here on key, though... (NYPL also has a full score, 236 p., of the 2nd symphony, in a 1992 edition by Ramón Sobrino.)

As to Breton's first symphony (according to the library record, 'the score says in A but actually in E minor'), Biblioteca Nacional de España has a manuscript copy dating from about 1868.

Eric
Title: Re: Tomas Breton (1850-1923)
Post by: jerfilm on Tuesday 01 March 2011, 06:04
Thanks, Amphissa.
Title: Re: Tomas Breton (1850-1923)
Post by: terry martyn on Sunday 23 August 2020, 09:09
Grateful for the tip on where to purchase the Breton CD, and pleased to report that trito.es has already delivered it

Title: Re: Tomas Breton (1850-1923)
Post by: Collrec on Wednesday 26 August 2020, 10:30
Does anyone know where I can purchase the 2 CD set on the Verso label (VRS 2117) of the 3 symphonies of Tomás Bretón? Presto has a "MP3 version only" listed on their website. Several other dealer websites say that the CD version has been discontinued and is no longer available. I checked with EBay and they say the same thing. The CD was released in December 2012. Any help I can get would be sincerely appreciated.
Title: Re: Tomas Breton (1850-1923)
Post by: Alan Howe on Wednesday 26 August 2020, 10:44
I'm afraid I think it's long gone. Your only option is a download, it appears.
Title: Re: Tomas Breton (1850-1923)
Post by: Ilja on Wednesday 26 August 2020, 12:25
There is also Max Bragado-Darman's recording of the Second Symphony (https://www.amazon.com/Breton-Symphony-Salamanca-Symphonic-Poem/dp/B00005NZLL), coupled with the late and rather fine symphonic Poem Salamanca. A bit rougher than Temes, but not bad at all.
Title: Re: Tomas Breton (1850-1923)
Post by: terry martyn on Wednesday 26 August 2020, 22:41
Copies turn up from time to time on amazon. I bought my copy of the Breton Symphonies there last year.  I crosscheck  amazon.com,amazon.co.uk,and amazon.de, and works sometimes appear out of the blue on one of these three but not on the others. I found my copy of the Abert Columbus Symphony on amazon.de a few weeks ago.
Title: Re: Tomas Breton (1850-1923)
Post by: Collrec on Saturday 29 August 2020, 10:11
I took your advice and checked the various Amazon websites and guess what, the only one that had the CD version of the 3 Breton Symphonies for sale was Amazon.au. However my hopes were shattered when they told me that they do not ship internationally but only to addresses in Australia. My hope is that we have a UC member in Australia who could order the CD and ship it to me by either FedEx or UPS. If that is possible I would be willing to reimburse that person in advance. The price including shipping this 2 CD set from Amazon.au to someone with an Australian address is $55.63 which is acceptable to me. I would also add to this amount the shipping costs from Australia to the USA where I live.

I'm a serious collector of romantic classical music by 19au century composers and hope that there is an Australian UC member who can help me. If there is, please Email me at mlpe@snet.net.

Thank you,

Marty Lippman