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The Music => Recordings & Broadcasts => Topic started by: Ilja on Thursday 24 October 2024, 21:44

Title: Johan Willem Wilms, Piano Concerto No. 5 in E flat major, Op. 55
Post by: Ilja on Thursday 24 October 2024, 21:44
An interesting performance of Wilms' E flat major concerto by Diana Gultsova with the Odessa Phil under Hobart Earle was uploaded yesterday to YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=csVEMd1kDx8).
Title: Re: Johan Willem Wilms, Piano Concerto No. 5 in E flat major, Op. 55
Post by: Alan Howe on Friday 25 October 2024, 17:21
An absolute rip-off of Beethoven's Emperor Concerto, of course - made all the more obvious in this traditional-style performance with concert grand and plenty of vibrato in the string-playing. A marvellous find - thanks, Ilja!
Title: Re: Johan Willem Wilms, Piano Concerto No. 5 in E flat major, Op. 55
Post by: Ilja on Saturday 26 October 2024, 15:05
Yes, it's a bit shameless, isn't it? Same key, almost identical movement tempos. Also, I seem to remember that he premiered Beethoven's concerto in The Hague in late 1814 (but will check).

Still lovely, though.
Title: Re: Johan Willem Wilms, Piano Concerto No. 5 in E flat major, Op. 55
Post by: Alan Howe on Saturday 26 October 2024, 18:53
It'd make a great commercial release...
Title: Re: Johan Willem Wilms, Piano Concerto No. 5 in E flat major, Op. 55
Post by: eschiss1 on Saturday 26 October 2024, 22:31
Anyone have Brautigam's recording of the work on BIS-2524 (and who isn't a priori repelled by historically-informed performance), and want to compare that and this one?

(Beyond the obvious comparison of timings, that is -
Brautigam/Willens: I. Adagio - Allegro. 17:44. II. Adagio. 6:15. III. Rondo. 9:02.
Apparently the BIS recording uses an edition edited by Brautigam for both concertos (4&5). May be true of the first volume too.)
Title: Re: Johan Willem Wilms, Piano Concerto No. 5 in E flat major, Op. 55
Post by: Ilja on Sunday 27 October 2024, 08:45
The Brautigam is relatively moderate by HIP standards, not like the horrors Arthur Schoonderwoerd and the Christofori Band perpetrated on poor Fodor and Wilms earlier on Alpha. Brautigam is a fine pianist of course, and his tempi are roughly similar to Gultsova's. However, were I given the choice I'd go with the latter for a number of reasons.
Title: Re: Johan Willem Wilms, Piano Concerto No. 5 in E flat major, Op. 55
Post by: semloh on Sunday 27 October 2024, 09:30
Quote from: eschiss1 on Saturday 26 October 2024, 22:31who isn't a priori repelled by historically-informed performance

Me.
Title: Re: Johan Willem Wilms, Piano Concerto No. 5 in E flat major, Op. 55
Post by: promusician on Wednesday 30 October 2024, 03:34
Quote from: Ilja on Thursday 24 October 2024, 21:44An interesting performance of Wilms' E flat major concerto by Diana Gultsova with the Odessa Phil under Hobart Earle was uploaded yesterday to YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=csVEMd1kDx8).

I requested the score from University Kassel, very glad to see a new recording made due to availability of score. Hopefully more fresh recordings of the other concertos can be made in the future, of course, in modern Steinway or similar grands
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