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The Music => Recordings & Broadcasts => Topic started by: Tapiola on Wednesday 05 February 2025, 01:43

Title: Georg Schumann: Ruth
Post by: Tapiola on Wednesday 05 February 2025, 01:43
Another brand new release from CPO:

https://www.eclassical.com/labels/cpo/georg-schumann-ruth.html

I didn't know about the existence of this choral work. Looks quite enticing.
Title: Re: Georg Schumann: Ruth
Post by: eschiss1 on Wednesday 05 February 2025, 02:23
A Berlin performance with the same conductor from about 14 years ago may be on YouTube actually :)
Title: Re: Georg Schumann: Ruth
Post by: Alan Howe on Wednesday 05 February 2025, 11:29
First published in 1908, according to IMSLP.
Title: Re: Georg Schumann: Ruth
Post by: Droosbury on Wednesday 05 February 2025, 11:35
Presumably it's from this 2023 broadcast concert as discussed in May 2023 https://www.unsungcomposers.com/forum/index.php?topic=9077.0

I have the earlier broadcast version that I think I downloaded from our Downloads section several years ago. As I recall, not having heard it for a couple of years, it's a great big piece, as you'd imagine, very impressive. It's from his mature period (a couple of years after his very fine Second Symphony). A big, richly scored oratorio from the 1900s: what's not to like?

And if it really is from a 2023 recording, perhaps it's evidence that CPO are finally hearing our pleas for a quicker release of stuff they record? Yeah, I know: perhaps not ...
Title: Re: Georg Schumann: Ruth
Post by: Alan Howe on Wednesday 05 February 2025, 11:38
As with Lachner's 4th, this is now available on YouTube:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Ji-YhrnVFQ&list=OLAK5uy_ncJnVSAXOtlug_Ada-xWc80I9ddw8NBck
Title: Re: Georg Schumann: Ruth
Post by: eschiss1 on Wednesday 05 February 2025, 11:49
Weirdly not at jpc yet.  The included pdf and docx files at eclassical don't include that page in most cpo program notes (and sometimes on their back covers) that say "recorded here on this date", from what I can tell, or we'd know for sure when this new disc was recorded... I agree the dates you give are most likely.
Title: Re: Georg Schumann: Ruth
Post by: eschiss1 on Wednesday 05 February 2025, 11:54
Oh hold on, not the docx file, the pdf files aren't the same- one of them is a 72-page booklet, and its last page confirms: recorded Berlin, Philharmonie 5 March 2023.
Title: Re: Georg Schumann: Ruth
Post by: Alan Howe on Wednesday 05 February 2025, 13:30
Quote from: eschiss1 on Wednesday 05 February 2025, 11:49Weirdly not at jpc yet

I think we're going to have to get used to this...
Title: Re: Georg Schumann: Ruth
Post by: eschiss1 on Wednesday 05 February 2025, 14:03
It -is- odd. Though Ruth is not available yet streaming, at least not over Amazon, as the Lachner is (though it too supposedly was released end of last month.) Weird. Is cpo still jpc's house label?
Title: Re: Georg Schumann: Ruth
Post by: Alan Howe on Wednesday 05 February 2025, 17:22
Quote from: eschiss1 on Wednesday 05 February 2025, 14:03Is cpo still jpc's house label?

Yes: jpc describes cpo as 'Das exklusive Klassiklabel aus dem Hause jpc' (= The exclusive classical music label from the company jpc).
Title: Re: Georg Schumann: Ruth
Post by: Alan Howe on Thursday 06 February 2025, 23:01
From a brief sampling of the end of the work in particular, the influences sound more along the Wagner-Strauss axis than, say, Mahler. I'm tempted to say Wagner-Strauss without the tunes, but that assessment is probably premature. Definitely toothsome, though.
Title: Re: Georg Schumann: Ruth
Post by: Alan Howe on Friday 07 February 2025, 11:38
Here's the download:
https://www.prestomusic.com/classical/products/9757874--georg-schumann-ruth
Title: Re: Georg Schumann: Ruth
Post by: Alan Howe on Saturday 08 February 2025, 17:03
From a longer listen to the beginning of the work, the clear influence is Wagner, specifically works such as Tristan und Isolde, Götterdämmerung and Parsifal. Now, I quite enjoy this sort of thing, but it has to be admitted that not much is particularly memorable, however gorgeous the writing is. Still, this is a major release of an important work in Georg Schumann's oeuvre - and it features some spectacular singing from the soloist cast as Ruth (whose identification is unclear from details published anywhere online).
Title: Re: Georg Schumann: Ruth
Post by: eschiss1 on Saturday 08 February 2025, 17:55
From page 3 of the 72-page pdf from cpo that can be downloaded from eclassical: Marcelina Roman, sopran, Ruth.

Also, incidentally in regards thread, not vocalist identification- Cypressdome uploaded the vocal score to IMSLP a decade-plus ago - thanks!

(!! ... Wonder if they have the program notes to discs I bought downloads of from other sites, that I failed to download the notes to- always worth checking.)
Title: Re: Georg Schumann: Ruth
Post by: Alan Howe on Saturday 08 February 2025, 18:02
Quote from: eschiss1 on Saturday 08 February 2025, 17:55Marcelina Roman, sopran, Ruth

I thought it might be, but many thanks for the confirmation, Eric.
Title: Re: Georg Schumann: Ruth
Post by: Alan Howe on Thursday 20 February 2025, 11:36
2-CD set now available from jpc:
https://www.jpc.de/jpcng/cpo/detail/-/art/georg-schumann-ruth/hnum/11655376