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The Music => Recordings & Broadcasts => Topic started by: Alan Howe on Saturday 05 April 2025, 23:35

Title: Brahms Clarinet Concertos?
Post by: Alan Howe on Saturday 05 April 2025, 23:35
...orchestrations of his two late Clarinet Sonatas, coupled with Rabl's lovely Quartet for Piano, Clarinet, Violin and Cello, Op.1:
https://www.prestomusic.com/classical/products/9767585--brahms-koncz-sonatas-for-clarinet-and-orchestra
Title: Re: Brahms Clarinet Concertos?
Post by: John Boyer on Saturday 05 April 2025, 23:51
It will be interesting to compare Berio's orchestration of the 1st with this one.  I know of another orchestration of the 2nd, but I can't recall who did it.  From what I could hear, this new 1st sounds fuller and more intricate than the Berio.

I like Rabl, but I have always objected to recordings that mix orchestral with non-orchestral music.
Title: Re: Brahms Clarinet Concertos?
Post by: terry martyn on Sunday 06 April 2025, 12:06
Not for me,I'm afraid.  It's the musical equivalent of the pushmi-pullyu!
Title: Re: Brahms Clarinet Concertos?
Post by: semloh on Sunday 06 April 2025, 12:09
Isn't this one of DH's "cocaine hippos"?  ::)
Title: Re: Brahms Clarinet Concertos?
Post by: eschiss1 on Sunday 06 April 2025, 13:21
Much as I enjoyed the orchestration of the early version of Brahms' Op.8, this particular kind don't, I agree, have the greatest track record. (With exceptions: orchestrations of, say, Alkan's piano symphony and concerto seem, really, kind of natural...)
Title: Re: Brahms Clarinet Concertos?
Post by: Alan Howe on Sunday 06 April 2025, 13:35
Quote from: semloh on Sunday 06 April 2025, 12:09Isn't this one of DH's "cocaine hippos"?  ::)

Probably. But I think I'll indulge this time round.
Title: Re: Brahms Clarinet Concertos?
Post by: John Boyer on Sunday 06 April 2025, 15:54
I'm with you, Alan.  If there's room for Liszt's and Joachim's takes on Schubert, Berlioz's on Weber, Ravel's on Mussorgsky, Stokowski's on Bach, Schoenberg's on Brahms -- to name just a few  -- then Mr. Koncz can have his shot at Brahms, too, the objections of a certain YouTube circus freak be damned. 

Orchestral arrangements have a long tradition.  Each deserves to judged on its own merits or faults.
Title: Re: Brahms Clarinet Concertos?
Post by: Alan Howe on Sunday 06 April 2025, 18:12
Quote from: John Boyer on Sunday 06 April 2025, 15:54I'm with you, Alan

Oh good. We can sniff together...