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Messages - Alan Howe

#15991
Yes - according to my Chambers Dictionary the expression involves the plural. However, poetic licence and all that...
#15992
The 's', unfortunately and dagnabit, is necessary, Jim. Otherwise it doesn't make sense. However, I agree in a way: I need a last line which ends 'rapture' (sing).
#15993
True unsung, Johann Rufinatscha,
Wrote music which words barely capture,
His 6th Symphony -
The great one in D -
Would send a Proms crowd into raptures!
#15994
Composers & Music / Re: Josef Netzer
Monday 29 June 2009, 07:55
I am old, John and Mark. I admit it.... ;)
#15995
I thoroughly recommend his two symphonies on Dacapo: No.2 is a masterpiece. There is also a very good CD of overtures on the same label.
#15996
Composers & Music / Re: Josef Netzer
Sunday 28 June 2009, 14:22
I grew up with Bruckner, so don't find him difficult at all. But you have to give him time...
#15997
Only Ries' last symphony (No.7) dates from after 1827. (No.'8' was actually written much earlier).
Gade - yes, he was really part of the Leipzig scene, wasn't he?
Has anything else been recorded from this period - or have we covered everything?
#15998
Yes, Czerny - thanks, I'd forgotten him!
#15999
I meant in any sense, Mark - whether viewed as important at the time or in the light of the subsequent development of music.

Franck's symphonies, I think, come later than 1850.

I agree that we have Wagner, Nicolai, Kalliwoda (although he was born in Prague), Burgmüller and Staehle - and Rietz and Hirschbach certainly fit too. Ferdinand Hiller would be another possibility, I assume. And then there is Moscheles and Ries (whose final symphony dates from 1835).

Otherwise we have Rufinatscha and Netzer...
#16000
If we omit Spohr, Lachner, Mendelssohn and Schumann, which are the most important symphonists in Germany/Austria in the period 1827 to 1850?
#16001
Composers & Music / Re: Josef Netzer
Saturday 27 June 2009, 08:46
Netzer is nothing like Bruckner; his model is surely Beethoven. If you like the early Rufinatscha, you'll certainly like Netzer.
#16002
Composers & Music / Re: Josef Netzer
Friday 26 June 2009, 23:20
As far as the symphonic context is concerned, I should have added Moscheles in C (1829), Ries 7 (1835) and Burgmüller 1 & 2 (he died in 1836).
#16004
Composers & Music / Re: Josef Netzer
Friday 26 June 2009, 17:49
Actually I felt like conducting, but I remembered where I was just in time! ;)
#16005
Composers & Music / Re: Josef Netzer
Friday 26 June 2009, 08:08
I too had Netzer in the car yesterday - his 4th. I'm probably an uncritical sucker for this sort of music: lively, memorable (the first movement is still going round in my head this morning) and just plain attractive.

Just a thought: Netzer's 1st dates from 1837 - that's only a decade after Beethoven's death. Of Mendelssohn's mature symphonies, only 1 and 4 predate it, and all of Schumann's and Berwald's were written after 1837. Seen this way, the correct context in which to view the emergence of Netzer as a symphonist is that of Spohr and Lachner. Does this make sense?