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And thank you tpaloj

Yes the Hiller adagio/intro is perhaps a little too lengthy. But my when it gets moving it is delightful and the ending quite superb. Great work in bringing this back to life! Thank you.

[PART THREE]

PART THREE

Another four extracts.

Georg Goltermann (1824-1898) Festpiel Overture
Bernhard Scholz (1835-1916) Symphony No1 1st mov
Paul Scheinpflug (1875-1937) Lustspiel Overture

and the best till last. The great  Heinrich Reuss (1855-1910)  Symphony No1 1st mov

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As ever please feel free to add to this thread with pertinent comments. They will be much appreciated.

CLICK HERE:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J92b1RdA0q4

adtminimal

Your efforts have not been wasted. On IMSLP the link works fine and I think your version is a lot sharper.

Thank you for completing the movement. It's a quite masterly work isn't it. I managed to complete the first 4 minutes or so as a taster. It has the score.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HxsvhrduCg4&t=75s

It's at 15.15 mins

Many thanks for your hard graft!

Congratulations on finishing it tpaloj ! The process can get a bit mind numbing can't it. However the pleasure of rediscovering the composer's thought processes bar by bar is reward enough I think.

My word! That is some collection!

I have downloaded a folder. They are very large and take a bit of time.

Will let you know as soon as I have had a gander. Thanks.

Robert Barr

https://www.sheetmusicplus.com/title/kunihild-prelude-to-third-act-sheet-music/5648340

I also found this in an obscure US site:

"And he (Kistler) does have one plus to history -- it was a performance of his opera Eulenspiegel that inspired Richard Strauss to write his tone-poem.

What I hear in that prelude, incidentally, isn't Lohengrin but Rienzi, lifted wholesale!

Sorry, the link is here:  http://www.cyrill-kistler.de/

Kistler's manuscripts appear to survive in his adopted hometown of Bad Kissingen. This site created in 2007 to commemorate the centenary of Kistler's death provides a brief description of the holdings and gives contact information.  It's not clear to me if the manuscripts are still held by the family (Klaus Kistler is listed as one of the contacts) or by the municipal/state archives.


I have attempted to contact these sites with no success. I wonder if the score of Kunihild (the opera) acually exisits?  Was this Prelude just a "one off". I read somewhere it was based on a scant vocal score and adapted by the aforementioned American band leader. The whole saga is quite mystifying. A challenge for the detectives that lurk here maybe?

My orchestration of the Prelude to Act III of Kunihild.

It's based on a wind band score so I don't know how accurate everything is. However, I think it's a fair realisation. I hope Cyril doesn't turn too hastily in his grave.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nvs1H47DQ90&feature=youtu.be

The second movement, a scherzo - sehr lebhaft (although I feel it shouldn't be too rushed)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OAnfKBdemSM

Thanks for that.

The work has a fascinating history.

I'm working on the 2nd movement, a scherzo. It's a very thin, light texture but extremely lively. As for the discussion re: Sibelius/Mahler I think Wilhelm was attempting to create his own world despite the obvious influences. It's a  world I have recently come to love. A pity not many more have come to love it too. However, it's their loss I guess.

Here is a snippet from the Concert Symphonique (1894 ?) for piano and orchestra. It's from the start of the final movement.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JazSKSYZ0QY&feature=youtu.be

[first movement]

Enough of short extracts for now.

Here is the first movement of Berger's Symphony in Bb, his first symphony written a year before the turn of the century. His second symphony appeared 13 years later and is considered his masterpiece by many.

However, this movement from the earlier symphony is worth a listen. The orchestral writing is clean and uncluttered and his style although a little quirky at times is refreshingly personal.

See what you think.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nf3uqrFFc-s&t=21s

All manually. It can be painstaking but at the same time I'm learning quite a bit about orchestration.