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#1
Composers & Music / Re: Raiders of the Lost Composers
Tuesday 04 February 2014, 00:53
Saint-Saens, it would appear, had a tendency to lift ideas from other composers.  The grand tune from the first movement of the 2nd Piano Concerto is said to have come from an unpublished Tantum Ergo of Faure.  The big waltz at the end of the 4th Piano Concerto has drawn comment for its similarity to a popular waltz of the day by Offenbach.  So much for possibly lifting from sung composers.  Did he do it to unsung composers?

Well, consider the famous organ hymn that opens the final section of the 3rd Symphony.  A few years ago our own California Jim commented that it sounded suspiciously like the opening theme of Anton Rubinstein's Fantasy in C, Op. 84, a work long consigned to the dusty, unused shelves of a few music libraries.  The work has, however, been graced by a single recording.  Checking this (I've yet to locate a score), I found Jim was right.  The Saint-Saens is simply the parallel third above (or minor 6th below) the Rubinstein: same key, same note durations for the most part. 

   The familiar Saint-Saens, from...what was it...1883?...has the following, all in quarter notes except as noted:

e'' d'' e'' c'' d'' e'' g'' a''   g''  (this last a dotted whole note), followed by
g'' a'' f'' e'' f'' d'' e'' f'' g''   d'' (the last again a dotted whole and final E-F as eighth notes).

Now the Rubinstein, from 1869, is as follows, again all in quarter notes:

c' b c' a    b c' d' e'    e' g' e' d'    e' b c' d'

Transpose the Saint-Saens down a major third and you have the Rubinstein.

Isnt' that a bit uncanny?

   Now we know that Rubinstein and Saint-Saens were friends.  It was at Rubinstein's request that Saint-Saens wrote, in 1868, his 2nd Piano Concerto.  April of 1870 has Rubinstein in Paris for the French premiere of his new Fantasy, followed by concerts in other major French cities.  Then in May Rubinstein returns to Paris where he plays the Schumann concerto under the direction of his friend, Saint-Saens.

   Given this chronology and the friendship of the two principles, it seems to me inconceivable that Saint-Saens would have been unaware of Rubinstein's new work.  And, given Saint-Saens reputation for allegedly lifting things...well, who knows?
#2
It may be that Jarvi has it right.  Here is a comparison between Raff's metronome markings and the initial tempos adopted by three different conductors:

          Raff     Herrmann     Schneider     Stadlmair

I.        168          128              140              152

II.         86            64               72                72

III.      160          120              124              124

IV.       162          124              136              152


Jarvi remains to be seen, but he probably has adopted the written tempos, which on the face of it seem ridiculously fast.  But look how well the Second Symphony worked!  I am reminded of being in New York to hear John Eliot Gardner conduct Beethoven's Ninth (well, I really was there to hear Christiane Oelze sing the soprano part -- that was before she cut her hair) and being amazed by the revelatory experience of hearing the Ninth in 59 minutes.  Suddenly the routine of hearing the Ninth as a kind of proto-Bruckner or paleo-Mahler was gone, replaced by a work that had its roots firmly in the early 19th century.  It was a best-of-both worlds solution: original tempos with modern instruments...and vibrato!

Speaking of which, there are several passages in Lenore where the strings are directed to play vibrato.  Not more vibrato, just vibrato.  If Raff asked that these passage be played vibrato, what was his expectation for the rest?

So much for theory.  How will it sound?
#3
The Newport Music Festival (July 10-28, 2013) will include performances of two early piano sonatas by Wagner, a piano trio by Robert Fuchs (both July 12), a piano quartet by Dora Pejacevic (July 13), and piano works by Czerny (July 15 & 28) and Tausig (July 28).

Here's the brochure:

http://www.newportmusic.org/2013%20Newport%20Music%20Festival%20Brochure%20SMALL%20061513.pdf
#4
The Springfield (Massachusetts) Symphony Orchestra will do the Antar Symphony of Rimsky-Korsakoff and the 3rd Symphony of Rachmaninoff, both unsung works by otherwise established composers.

http://springfieldsymphony.org/boxoffice/Classical6.shtml

http://springfieldsymphony.org/Classical7.shtml

This past season they did the Rachmaninoff 4th Piano Concerto.  In past seasons they did the Rachmaninoff 1st Symphony, the Dvorak Piano Concerto, and Chadwick's Melpomene Overture.