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Messages - Theodore S.

#1
Composers & Music / Newly rediscovered Mozart Trio!
Monday 23 September 2024, 21:34
I have not seen any mentions of this on the forum, so I thought I would share this here. A string trio by Mozart was just rediscovered a few days ago, titled "Serenata ex C - Ganz Kleine Nachtmusik", composed sometime in the 1760s. Here's a score video of one of the new performances: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HzmRRIIlGTo

I think this is hopeful news that we may one day be able to uncover other major works by Mozart thought to be lost forever, such as the Trumpet Concerto and the Cello Concerto.
#2
Recordings & Broadcasts / Re: Catoire Mtsyri
Friday 06 September 2024, 03:25
It seems we have finally reached the conclusion of the search for Catoire's cantata "Rusalka", and by extension the search for the album in which it is included, along with the Symphony in C minor and the symphonic poem "Mtsyri". The much-discussed album was released in March of this year, performed by Sergei Kondrashev and the Orpheus Radio Symphony Orchestra, along with the Grand Choir Masters of Choral Singing and Anastasia Alyabyeva as a vocal soloist.

EDIT: Perhaps this comment should be its own post? Just because a lot of posts here in the "recordings & broadcasts" portion of the forum are about specific releases of new CDs and albums, and this is a new release of an album (I don't say CD because I can't find a CD version of this available atm).
#3
I remember the videos, but I can't find them either :( The musicians were either Chinese or Korean, but they were students at the Moscow Conservatory.

For now, this might be your best option: https://vk.com/video243248949_171845845. It's only the first movement, but the performance is quite good, even though the recording quality isn't great.

I'll keep looking for those videos, though.
#5
It could be a misnomer - Rozycki's Op. 2 is a set of 5 preludes for piano: https://imslp.org/wiki/5_Preludes_for_Piano,_Op.2_(R%C3%B3%C5%BCycki,_Ludomir)

Does the piece sound the same as Op. 18? For some reason that piece is often called "Ballade no. 2", but I can't find any other info on what would be "Ballade no. 1".

It may also be worth checking the lengths of the other tracks, to see if one of those is actually 8'34. Hope this helps!
#6
Composers & Music / Overture by Nikolai Rubinstein
Saturday 25 May 2024, 14:00
Hello everyone,

I don't think this has been posted here before, but correct me if I'm wrong. I found out that apparently Nikolai Rubinstein wrote an orchestral Overture in A minor (linked manuscript score). As far as I know, this piece has never been recorded, but seeing as I couldn't find out any information about it, I doubt it was even performed or published; the score is dated to 1880. Most articles on Nikolai Rubinstein say he only wrote some short piano music and songs, but this is a work for full orchestra.

Maybe somebody here already knows about this piece and has more information? If so, I would love for you to share it here!
#7
Recordings & Broadcasts / Re: Loeffler Octet
Thursday 23 May 2024, 00:29
I'm genuinely looking forward to this one, Charles Martin Loeffler is one of my favorite American composers. I've been hoping this recording would be made available for a while now, and it has a release date! I do wonder about the manuscript in the Morgan Library, though, if that will at some point be made available as well (or maybe there will be a new publication?)
#8
Composers & Music / Re: Mystery
Friday 10 May 2024, 05:32
Quote from: Hector on Thursday 09 May 2024, 14:59Same sound world as Canning's Fantasy on a Hymn Tune.

Quote from: Alan Howe on Thursday 09 May 2024, 19:31Exactly:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CnpC0vfHMnw

Thank you both for finding the piece!
#9
Composers & Music / Re: Mystery
Thursday 09 May 2024, 04:00
Quote from: Alan Howe on Wednesday 08 May 2024, 20:25Nor do I, sadly. However, there is, I am sure, a piece of music very much like VW's Tallis Fantasia written (I think) by an American composer. Trouble is, I can't remember who.

If you ever remember the American piece, I would love to hear it!
#10
Composers & Music / Re: Mystery
Wednesday 08 May 2024, 19:54
I have done a bit more research - there's a good chance that this is original music for the film. However, it's very likely not by Robert Folk. The film has had a very troubled production (over 30 years in the making!), and Robert Folk's soundtrack was written for an official studio cut (called the Princess and the Cobbler), while this clip is from a fan reconstruction of the original material; also, Folk's music is very Disney-musical-esque, and his soundtrack can be heard on YouTube.

The man who lead the team effort to reconstruct the movie from its original material, Garret Gilchrist, had this to say about this opening music:

"Much of the music in The Thief workprint isn't known to us. Some of it is clearly original, including the opening overture. Some of it we've been able to identify, including the frequent use of Scheherezade.

The Recobbled Cut has included classical pieces and portions of the Princess and the Cobbler/Arabian Knight score, but the additional music has not yet been added to the Mark 4 version."


(Here is the page this quote comes from: https://orangecow.org/board/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=3&p=559&hilit=opening#p559)

If this music truly is part of an original soundtrack, my personal hypothesis is that the composer may have used the Tallis Fantasia as an inspiration. This is based on another video of an early animation test of the same opening sequence, but which actually uses the Tallis Fantasia as the background music. Perhaps this piece was written in a similar way to the soundtracks in the Star Wars franchise, for which John Williams basically made his own versions of existing pieces (Rite of Spring, Rachmaninoff's Symphony no. 2, etc.).

However, being that no definitive answer exists as yet, I think there is still a possibility that this piece does come from a less-known work of classical music, as it was clearly composed and orchestrated to a very high standard, comparable with most known romantic pieces. While there are other apparently original tracks in the film's score which are comparable to classical pieces, a lot of other known tracks aren't similar to this one at all. As such, I leave the question open, as there may be someone here or elsewhere who will recognize this piece. (My guess is that the hypothetical romantic-era composer of this piece would have been from Great Britain, judging by the style.) In any case, I'll do some more research on the topic.
#11
Composers & Music / Mystery
Wednesday 08 May 2024, 08:31
Hello everyone,

This is a bit of a silly question, but I can't figure this out - does anyone recognize the piece in this video? It's from the opening of the animated film "The Thief and the Cobbler", but I ask as the soundtrack makes use of a number of existing classical pieces, and this seems like it could be one of them. There are playlists on YouTube that include various pieces from the movie, but this piece isn't really included - also, IMDB provides no information on the classical tracks in the music at all. Initially I thought it might be from Vaughan William's Tallis Fantasia (as the soundtrack includes the piece), but the theme doesn't appear there and woodwinds can be heard towards the end. It's possible this is a really famous piece that I just don't recognize (as there are some more famous composers I don't really listen to), but I'd still like to know. It's clearly a romantic piece, and a very lovely one at that.

If anyone knows, please let me know!
Theodore
#12
Hello everyone,

As suggested by the OP Christopher, I'd like to share a score of a piece by Eizens (Evgeny) Bukke, the Romance in C-sharp minor for violin and piano (kindly scanned for me by a friend in Riga). I'm not aware of any recordings of this piece, but reading through it, it's clearly a very lovely composition, I'm sure any violinist would be happy to perform it as a short concert piece - on that note, the score also includes the violin part. Interesting to note the Romance's premiere by the composer and Prince Georgy Dulov, it seems he helped publish the piece as well, judging by the front and back pages of the score, under the legend "Полный курс скрипичной игры: заключающий в себе упражнения, этюды и песны, расположенныя по степеням трудности и составленный из произведений знаменитых скрипачей и композиторов - Преподавателем Московской Консерватории кн. Г. ДУЛОВЫМ" (adapted to modern Russian Cyrillic from the Imperial spelling).

Anyway, here's hoping the piece will get a recording!
#13
Composers & Music / Re: what is this piece?
Saturday 27 April 2024, 00:39
Quote from: semloh on Sunday 10 March 2024, 12:08At last! It's the charming set of English Folk Dances by Ernest Tomlinson, starting with "Jenny Pluck Pears". now I can sleep easy!  ;D

A bit late, but this is great news! Thank you for finding this piece.
#14
Recordings & Broadcasts / Re: Music by Evgeny Svetlanov
Saturday 27 April 2024, 00:39
Hello again,
It's true, I have sent Bartje Bartmans a number of these Svetlanov pieces. However, almos everything he's posted was already on the internet, except for the Aria for viola, which is from a vinyl in my collection.

A friend of mine has been digitizing from a vinyl with several piano pieces, which he's been posting on his channel:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LE6dHsIqDJs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N8w5jJxq494

In other news, I now believe the Svetlanov Violin Sonata recording with Eduard Grach may be held in the studios of GOSTELRADIOFOND in Russia (they have a few channels on YouTube, with digitized TV broadcasts and reel-to-reel phonogram tapes, among other things). My friend actually wrote about digitizing a couple other broadcasts in their collection, but found out that the price for a digitization can be anywhere from 5-100 euros per minute. We'll probably just have to wait for either a new recording of the Sonata (and other pieces recorded reel-to-reel), or wait for GOSTELRADIOFOND to release the recordings of their own volition.
#15
Recordings & Broadcasts / Re: Music by Evgeny Svetlanov
Thursday 22 February 2024, 10:33
Hello everyone, a little update. I've been talking with a friend about Svetlanov's music (and I've also come across several interesting recordings never previously digitized, which I'll soon share here), and he sent me a PDF of a book with the complete discography of Svetlanov as of 1987, including his own works. What's interesting is that in this book, the catalogue numbers of these recordings are also included. As there has been discussion regarding the recording of Svetlanov's Violin Sonata in G minor by Eduard Grach and the composer, this is the information given about that recording:

Соната для скр. и ф-п. Э. Грач и Е. Светланов.
Д.з.29.10; зап. 1967: Д-78914
(the last "4" may or may not have a space before the previous number, it's a bit hard to tell.)

This recording is part of a section titled "Фонограммы Всесоюзного радио" ("Phonograms of All-Union Radio"); after this is a section called "Грамзаписи Всесоюзной студии «Мелодия» и фирмы EMI (Великобритания)" ("Recordings of the studio 'Melodiya' and the firm 'EMI' (Great Britain)"). The Violin Sonata is only mentioned in the former section and not the latter, suggesting it may not have been released as a vinyl on "Melodiya". However, this does not necessarily mean the recording is lost, because another recording from the former section, Svetlanov's Cello Sonata, has been rereleased as a track on a CD in 2014 ("Evgeni Svetlanov - Piano Works, Vol. 7" from Russian Disc).

I'll share the pages with Svetlanov's compositional discography, as well as the section containing a list of compositions up to the publication of the book:

Фонограммы Всесоюзного радио
Грамзаписи Всесоюзной студии «Мелодия» и фирмы EMI (Великобритания)
Каталог Сочинений Е, Ф, Светланова