Johanna Senfter - Symphony No. 2 in D minor, Op. 27

Started by britishcomposer, Saturday 18 January 2025, 09:42

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britishcomposer

The coming Friday Deutschlandfunk Kultur will broadcast a concert with the Philharmonisches Orchester Bremerhaven conducted by Marc Niemann.
The main item will be Johanna Senfter's Symphony No. 2 in D minor, Op. 27.

eschiss1

Thanks! I see there's a link at WorldConcerthall.com -- what I don't know is if this is a registration and pay site, or if, when it becomes available (24 January at 1900 GMT), it will be available for free? 

(I see that's 2 pm EST on Friday, and I have a class/group at 2 pm Fridays, so that's me out. If anyone's willing to upload this, I know I'm interested in hearing it...)

Alan Howe


eschiss1

(It's possible that the WorldConcertHall link will still work after the concert, btw, I'll try then. They seem to have a lot of concerts at that site- I should have a look, if I can.. oh-kay, that site may deserve a thread all its own actually, if it doesn't have one; links to archive broadcast pages on different radio stations (like DR Denmark), etc. ...- looks very, very useful...)

britishcomposer

Usually concert broadcasts are available for 30 days at Deutschlandfunk Kultur. But there are rare cases when this is not possible for legal reasons. Of course I will record this broadcast ,,live" but I mentioned it in case I should fail so other members can plan to record themselves.

jimsemadeni

Latvian radio itself keeps their broadcasts available after the concerts, at least a month I think. Latvian radio 3:
https://klasika.lsm.lv/lv/lr/arhivs/?curr_year=2021

Also World Concert Hall is wonderful, and Orchestra On Demand also offers archived broadcasts from quite a few orchestras.
https://orchestraondemand.blogspot.com/

Alan Howe


eschiss1

Isn't it not broadcast until Friday? (I incidentally see that I have the SWR Kultur app and will see if I can listen to the archive there Friday night...)

Alan Howe


britishcomposer


Mark Thomas


Droosbury

I've listened to the first movement and impressed by it so far! But try as I might I can't find a way to get an mp3 of this performance. Is anyone able to record it - or give any info on an app I can use (Mac)?

Droosbury

Ah, I should have checked the Downloads section! Many thanks for recording, britishcomposer

eschiss1


Alan Howe

I'm afraid that, for me at least, the continuous, restless chromaticism here makes for a very arduous listen, despite some rather beautiful interludes. Resolutions at the end of movements, e.g. the first movement here, come as something of a surprise. I'm constantly reminded of Reger...

From our friend and Senfter expert, Petteri Nieminen, some pointers to Senfter's style and compositional processes:

Quote2nd Symphony in D minor. Four movements, practically similar orchestration, about 40 minutes. She often did a 6/8 finale in her earlier symphonies. Was performed once in the early 1920's.

General characteristics of her symphonies.
-Usually they follow the sonata form very closely in the 1st and 4th movements (which makes typesetting easier as the first 30-40 bars of recapitulation are identical to the beginning).
-Senfter does dynamics with instrumentation. As the music intensifies, more are more instruments join a line (usually the woodwinds also in the manner that the 1st player joins first, then the 2nd) and they also exit a phrase in the same manner.
-In the earlier symphonies the woodwinds do not always show much independence but double the strings (as explained above), less so beginning with the 3rd and 4th symphonies.
-Senfter usually goes straight into business. No long introductions, the first theme groups starts at measure 1. No extended codas, either, once you reach the principal key in a reasonably satisfactory manner, it's OK and we can all go home (I like her endings).
-The horns are big players. They often introduce principal the groups (we.g., 2nd and 3rd symphonies) and for the remainder of the time, they have their own counter-melodies that add richness to the overall score.
-The trumpets are a bit more restricted for culminations of passages, trombones and tuba have interesting passages of accompanying especially woodwind solos and soli.
-Clarinets have a lot to do when it comes to woodwind solos, flutes next, oboes quite a lot of less and bassoons mostly double the cellos and double basses
-String parts are very demanding, requiring high passages for cellos (and also double basses), lots of divisi.
-The chromatism and accidentals are everywhere. A bar without an accidental is a rarity, a bar with a couple of double flats is the norm. Sharp accidentals perhaps only 20% of accidentals, its flat, flat, flat.