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Czerny Piano Trios

Started by Alan Howe, Wednesday 20 June 2018, 07:36

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eschiss1

... well, that's disappointing. The trios Opp. 104 & 211 but not the (more important?) gran[d]s trios Opp. 105 (originally for horn, violin and piano), 166 in A, 173 in E, 289 in A minor (this one has been recorded, I know), etc. The Altenberg site lists 22 trios and works for piano trio (including several in ms).
Of course, knowing Naxos, maybe this is a volume 1.

eschiss1

The pianist, Samuel Gingher, is particularly interested in Czerny's music judging from one of his webpages, so maybe I should take that back and replace that with wait and see after all :)
"Aani is a champion of new and undiscovered music, and is currently involved in a collaborative project to rediscover and record the vocal works of composer Carl Czerny with pianist Samuel Gingher" - from 2016 program notes - that too is, to me, intriguing.
Apologies for off-topic remarks and thanks for pointing out the CD announcement :)

sammygfunx

Hi eschiss1,

I happened to stumble across this wonderful information trove (Unsung Composers) and wanted to quickly reply to this old post (I am Sam Gingher)  ;D

While I agree that the Op. 211 trios are less intriguing than the grand trios, I think they are still very interesting works worth checking out...I had a blast learning and recording them.  I find the slow, 2nd movements of each Op. 211 trio particularly beautiful (albeit short), and the Bolero of the 2nd trio quite charming and full of passionate writing.  The Op. 104 sonatinas are fun and light-hearted, more suited towards students, yet still clever in the part-writing.  From a historical perspective, I believe the "ad libitum" indication on the Op. 104 title page was more an indication for the string parts to be improvised/embellished (rather than what many translate as "freely" or "optional"), which I hope future performers will at some point attempt!  Czerny's Op. 200 and 300 were dedicated to teaching the art of improvisation, and there are many other indications that this is a viable interpretation of "ad libitum" (which makes Op. 104 more interesting from a historical performance perspective).  Of course, I am admittedly quite biased since I recorded the works ;D

While it has been nearly a year and a half since your 6/20/2018 post (you may already be aware of these recordings), you can find the Op. 105 (with horn!) recorded by Radek Baborák / Kazune Shimizu / Lorenz Nasturica on the Cryston label (released in 2012)... in my humble opinion it's a beautiful trio and excellent recording (both performance and engineering).  Actually, when I was working on the Op. 211 and 104 project, I stumbled across the Op. 105 recording... while I was tempted to learn the work, I thought it would be better to focus on a world premiere project to bring completely unheard Czerny music to the public (since there are still so many works in the dark).

Likewise, the Op. 166 grand trio in A major was recorded on the Doremi label in 2002 (it's a live recording, but world-class performance), as part of the first Carl Czerny Music Festival, in Edmonton, Alberta, Canada (the festival was spearheaded by Anton Kuerti).  A lot of wonderful recordings to check out on this 3-CD set.

You are correct that Op. 289 in A minor has been recorded, too (1998, Signum Label, Göbel-Trio in Berlin).

As you mentioned back in 2018, as far as I can tell (from my limited searching on the internet), Op. 173 still remains unrecorded.  I do have the score, and have read through some of it with my trio... it is on my to-do list, hopefully this year  :)

I unfortunately got side-tracked as of late with many other Czerny projects (one of which I recorded in December, piano 4-hands).  I am also finally working on the vocal project with Aani (also saw that in your post so thought I'd quickly mention it)... we recorded one vocal set in December and hope to get together this summer to finish the project.  Will certainly keep you updated if you're still interested!

Also, I wanted to quickly say what a wonderful resource this website is!  Thanks to you and all the other contributors for bringing attention to all of the unsung composers!

All best,

Sam

semloh

Thank you for your kind words, Sam, and for clarifying the Czerny situation, and welcome to UC.